I'm politically incorrect...does that make me a bad person?

[JohnnyFlame]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

I don't think china is a great example of a country rich with equality and human rights.

I lived there for four years and joined right in with Chinese New Year. Had no objections to it and didn't campaign to change it to Oriental New Year to make it more PC. I personally have found it very refreshing to live in other countries away from the continual rubbish that goes on in this country with so many supposed freedoms. Meanwhile those who have values of any kind are told they are infringing on others and should change to be more "tolerant". What an absolute load of crap.

I'll tell you if somebody gives me that tolerant line in real life I give them an earful and I'm more than happy to not be associated with the freakin mindless clones who consider themselves tolerant because they don't believe in anything and think those that do are idiots who should conform to their non-belief status(and no I'm not talking about belief in God but belief in anything).

The politically correct crowd can take a flying leap!!!!

[mykalberta]

This is the wrong forum for that question IMO

[foofighter15]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Is the classroom the right place for it though?

Heck what's the difference between that and having a little morning prayer at snack time?

I don't see why it shouldn't be in the classroom.
The public schools are a government organization.

A morning prayer would be religious, and they have separation of church and state.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by foofighter15

Not at all offended.

Why should I be? They are proud of who they are. Why should I try to change that?

Good good. But it would offend some. and as you said.. one person leads to another person to another then a group then another group and if you were the principal of the school, you'd be in a sticky situation.

[redforever]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Yes Canada and the US are forgetting where they came from.
Just as an example, if you whiteys lived in China and were offended by Chinese New Year celebrations.. do you think they'd give a cr*p about you?

Well I don't think this attitude goes far, either by individuals or by countries, in promoting acceptance.

The issues are not who we are, where we have come from, what we look like, how we celebrate things. The issues are accepting all of these differences while maintaining your own identity. Some are now feeling compromised with how they live their lives. I do not feel that way.

As far as I am concerned, we should celebrate our differences instead of trying to make everyone like us. Now if someone told me I could no longer celebrate my customs in my own way, as long as the way I celebrated and lived my life met with the laws of the land, well then I might have a problem. I try to take people at face value unless they prove otherwise to me.

Now if I was living in China, yes, I think you would be ignored if you asked them to change how they celebrate their New Year. But I do not think they would object to you celebrating XMas if you did not object to them celebrating their festivals.

Same thing in Canada. I do not object whatsoever to people observing the Ramadan, celebrating Hannukah, whatever as long as those people also accept how I celebrate my own customs. Acceptance is the key. And with acceptance and the arrival of many new immigrants and many new customs, society will change. That is a given. But you do not have to fear change and change is not necessarily bad. Nothing ever stays the same, thank God for that!!!

[foofighter15]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Good good. But it would offend some. and as you said.. one person leads to another person to another then a group then another group and if you were the principal of the school, you'd be in a sticky situation.

Except that if he were to remove it for the snowball of kids who are offended by it he would put it back in for the Avalanche of kids who have had it as part of their morning since kindergarden

[Flashpoint]

I don't read emails in font that big.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by redforever

Now if I was living in China, yes, I think you would be ignored if you asked them to change how they celebrate their New Year. But I do not think they would object to you celebrating XMas if you did not object to them celebrating their festivals.

They do celebrate Xmas there. Many people in China and especially in Hong Kong are Christian. Dec 25 is an official holiday. It's just not as big a deal as it is here.

[Bertuzzied]

I like boxing day and the davinci code. hehe

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by foofighter15

Except that if he were to remove it for the snowball of kids who are offended by it he would put it back in for the Avalanche of kids who have had it as part of their morning since kindergarden

The Avalanche doesn't yell as loud as the snowball.
Especially if the snowball has some politician on its side who doesn't have a spine because he's fishing for support.

[JohnnyFlame]

Originally Posted by redforever

Well I don't think this attitude goes far, either by individuals or by countries, in promoting acceptance.

The issues are not who we are, where we have come from, what we look like, how we celebrate things. The issues are accepting all of these differences while maintaining your own identity. Some are now feeling compromised with how they live their lives. I do not feel that way.

As far as I am concerned, we should celebrate our differences instead of trying to make everyone like us. Now if someone told me I could no longer celebrate my customs in my own way, as long as the way I celebrated and lived my life met with the laws of the land, well then I might have a problem. I try to take people at face value unless they prove otherwise to me.

Now if I was living in China, yes, I think you would be ignored if you asked them to change how they celebrate their New Year. But I do not think they would object to you celebrating XMas if you did not object to them celebrating their festivals.

Same thing in Canada. I do not object whatsoever to people observing the Ramadan, celebrating Hannukah, whatever as long as those people also accept how I celebrate my own customs. Acceptance is the key. And with acceptance and the arrival of many new immigrants and many new customs, society will change. That is a given. But you do not have to fear change and change is not necessarily bad. Nothing ever stays the same, thank God for that!!!

I can give you an example. We were asked by the local grocery store in China(Carrefour) Jia Le to come and sing Christmas Carols. They figured all us Westerners would know all the Christmas carols off by heart LOL. We scrambled up some lyrics and indeed went and sang at the store. Needless to say there was quite the commotion with a small group of foreigners singing in front of yep a Christmas tree.

Now could you do the same thing in Canada? Probably not as some dumb fart would be offended -- what a joke -- China more open than Canada!!!

[foofighter15]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

The Avalanche doesn't yell as loud as the snowball.
Especially if the snowball has some politician on its side who doesn't have a spine because he's fishing for support.

First off, how hard is it to find a spineless politician.
And second,
I'll tell you what. You and can go over to Sunshine. I'll get you to close your eyes and in no particular order I will throw a snowball at you, and then an avalanche. And you tell me which was which. And then we'll go frolock in the snow.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by JohnnyFlame

I can give you an example. We were asked by the local grocery store in China(Carrefour) Jia Le to come and sing Christmas Carols. They figured all us Westerners would know all the Christmas carols off by heart LOL. We scrambled up some lyrics and indeed went and sang at the store. Needless to say there was quite the commotion with a small group of foreigners singing in front of yep a Christmas tree.

Now could you do the same thing in Canada? Probably not as some dart fart would be offended -- what a joke -- China more open than Canada!!!

Neat story! When I was in China I loved seeing Western boys... now that I'm here they're not so hot anymore.. sorry boys :P

It's not the dart fart's fault, it's the government and laws that cave in to him.

[JohnnyFlame]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Neat story! When I was in China I loved seeing Western boys... now that I'm here they're not so hot anymore.. sorry boys :P

It's not the dart fart's fault, it's the government and laws that cave in to him.

Nah it's the dumb farts who fall right in line with this crap. People do need to stand up and say just shut the fart up. And if they accuse you of being intolerant then say yep I'm intolerant of toadies like you!!!!

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by foofighter15

First off, how hard is it to find a spineless politician.
And second,
I'll tell you what. You and can go over to Sunshine. I'll get you to close your eyes and in no particular order I will throw a snowball at you, and then an avalanche. And you tell me which was which. And then we'll go frolock in the snow.

Haha nice. I thought we were using symbols.. not an actual snowball!
Back to the issue, I follow everything Canadian and don't understand people who dont. None of the customs offend me. Except for the play of the Flames lately, but that's another story

[foofighter15]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Haha nice. I thought we were using symbols.. not an actual snowball!
Back to the issue, I follow everything Canadian and don't understand people who dont. None of the customs offend me. Except for the play of the Flames lately, but that's another story

WOAH WOAH WOAH! Watch what you say. If you consider the Flames to be a Canadian custom....we are not Toronto. We cannot get that full of ourselves

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by foofighter15

WOAH WOAH WOAH! Watch what you say. If you consider the Flames to be a Canadian custom....we are not Toronto. We cannot get that full of ourselves

Hockey in general. hehehe figured I was safe on a flames board.

[foofighter15]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Hockey in general. hehehe figured I was safe on a flames board.

haha. You never know if the Leafs have a spy in here.

[redforever]

Originally Posted by flylock shox

What I absolutely HATE about PCness is how it actually operates to separate different groups of people rather than unite them. If some dude comes up to me and says "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Hannukah," how does it bring us closer together for me to respond "you know, you really should just say Season's Greetings: it's more inclusive"? Say "Merry Christmas" back. Say "Happy Hannukah" back. It doesn't matter if you aren't Christian or Jewish - someone just expressed a tiding of good will your way. Accept it. There's not enough of that in the world.

And if you're like me, and you don't like giving in to the idea of using PC terminology, here's a tip - don't freaking do it! I'm lucky to have friends from a very broad variety of backgrounds and you know what? Our differences make it a blast for us to hang out together. I bug my German buddies about the efficient way they eat their meals, or how they tend to unconsciously covet anything remotely shaped like Poland. My brown friends (and yes, I use the word "brown," because that's what they use) I bug about having too many cousins. And my Korean friends I bug about not being able to drive in a straight line. They, in turn, bug me about being an Alberta redneck who outshines the sun whenever his shirt comes off.

It's called having fun with each other. Political Correctness destroys that. That's why I hate it. That's why I reject it. If it bothers you, I suggest you reject it too.

And you use what a lot of people do not, common sense.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Has anyone ever seen or heard of an immigrant or minority actually voicing their discomfort with anything Christmas?

Authors like this one just love to blame everything in minorities, but I don't think 99% of minorities could care less about what Christmas is called.

If anything, it's more of a debate between the secular majority and a Christian minority, but somehow certain people need to always make it about race/ethnicity/immigration.