09-06-2007, 11:51 AM
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#41
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Not sure
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Originally Posted by Burninator
Could you guys point me in the direction of a guide/walkthrough of assemblying your own PC. Something that starts with all the components in boxes and goes all the way to running windows would be perfect. I would like to have as much reference material as I can get when I'm building.
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In all honestly, almost anyone can build a computer these days. The only area I have found that you have to be really careful is the powerswitch/reset button wires but even they are color coded now. Seating the CPU can be a tad nerve racking as well but it's not that difficult.
Also, investing in a anti-static work pad or wrist strap is a must. I can't emphasize that enough.
Last edited by GoinAllTheWay; 09-06-2007 at 11:54 AM.
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09-06-2007, 11:59 AM
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#42
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Market Mall Food Court
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Originally Posted by GoinAllTheWay
In all honestly, almost anyone can build a computer these days. The only area I have found that you have to be really careful is the powerswitch/reset button wires but even they are color coded now. Seating the CPU can be a tad nerve racking as well but it's not that difficult.
Also, investing in a anti-static work pad or wrist strap is a must. I can't emphasize that enough.
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Don't drop that 3lb heatsink on your cpu like I did when i tried to mount it. hehe. It still works but it's running 10 degrees hotter than my brother and my friends quad.
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09-06-2007, 01:35 PM
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#43
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Burninator
Could you guys point me in the direction of a guide/walkthrough of assemblying your own PC. Something that starts with all the components in boxes and goes all the way to running windows would be perfect. I would like to have as much reference material as I can get when I'm building.
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Something Bobblehead posted in my post about building or buying a PC that I think may be what you are looking for.
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Originally Posted by Bobblehead
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this is the post I made, it has some great links and advice in it.
http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...ight=madman_26
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09-06-2007, 01:55 PM
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#44
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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Here are the important early steps (the ones people are usually afraid of) as best I can outline quickly:
1. Take your case and see if you can remove the motherboard tray
2. Pop out the default backplate, put in your motherboard/backplate
3. Screw in the copper color standoffs onto the motherboard tray
4. Place the motherboard on the standoffs, place on the insulating washers
5. Screw the motherboard to the tray (important here because often, people attach the CPU/heatsink first and that warps the board due to the force of the retention mechanism).
6. Pull open the ZIF socket lever, insert the CPU
7. If you are using the default Intel cooler, it will have silver thermal grease pre-applied. I think you are going with the Ninja though so you will need to buy something like Arctic Silver - this part you will need a more in depth guide as to how to apply the silver between the CPU and the heatsink. I would put a small blob of it in the center and spread it out with a clean credit-card. I don't recall you including the silver in your list, you might want to buy a tube. I wouldn't trust the silicone grease that usually comes with the heatsink.
8. Install the heatsink carefully, don't push or smudge the grease everywhere but get it to spread evenly. Push in the four clips or screw in the four screws. Make sure all four sides are in. The intel boards require some force sometimes so it might be scary but just push them all in.
9. Read your manual to see where the motherboard power connections, sound, headers, etc. for your front panel connect. They basically just go right onto the pins just like jumpers. One side is positive and negative, if I remember, the side with the arrow on the connector is negative or ground. This is usually very easy though, the connectors are all marked (PWR, Reset, Mic, Sound, LED etc.) and if you screw up, don't worry, you won't damage anything...just you won't have sound on your front panel, or maybe not your USBs, or maybe the front LED won't light, your computer won't turn on (or the reset button turns on your computer or something funny like that). Easy to diagnose if you made a mistake.
10. The rest is easy, just install the rest of your hardware, plug them into the powersupply, plug everything into the board. Make sure your fans are all connected...that the videocard power is also connected. That your IDE cable is plugged in right (for the DVD drive). Be careful with the SATA cable, I've had a few snap off at the harddrive in my experience.
Many people put all their parts ontop of the antistatic bags in hopes it will protect them but it's a myth because once out of the bag, it nolonger acts as a faraday cage...but it keeps your stuff clean and orderly still. I've never built a computer with an anti-static strap or anti-static foot covers or anything. I just do it on my desk...if however, your house happens to be an especially dry one and you have thick carpetting and you seem to zap yourself all over the place, you might want to invest in the strap, but it's really not neccessary. Just plug the PSU into the wall (so that it is grounded) and touch the PSU with your hand before doing any delicate stuff and any potential (rare) charge built up will go away.
The most complicated step for somebody who hasn't done this before is probably the BIOS setup, but that requires much more depth...but then again, if you aren't overclocking, most of the settings should be decent and automatic from default.
Last edited by Hack&Lube; 09-06-2007 at 02:01 PM.
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09-06-2007, 02:11 PM
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#45
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Franchise Player
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Thanks guys, all this is an awesome help! Everything seems pretty straight forward. The only two areas of concern are the heatsink and the BIOS stuff. But from what I've read here, it sounds like I shouldn't have any trouble.
Worth that would be great if you uploaded the video, and don't worry I won't make you go through the trouble of mailing it.
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09-06-2007, 02:32 PM
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#46
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Had an idea!
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Absolutely make sure that you mount your motherboard properly. I burned out one a few months back because I was too lazy to double check.
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09-06-2007, 02:58 PM
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#47
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
7. If you are using the default Intel cooler, it will have silver thermal grease pre-applied. I think you are going with the Ninja though so you will need to buy something like Arctic Silver - this part you will need a more in depth guide as to how to apply the silver between the CPU and the heatsink. I would put a small blob of it in the center and spread it out with a clean credit-card. I don't recall you including the silver in your list, you might want to buy a tube. I wouldn't trust the silicone grease that usually comes with the heatsink.
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You don't do that anymore with AS5. Simply put a short line of compound down the middle of the ic (between the 2 cores or pairs of cores) and put on the heat sink. Work the heat sink around a little bit to work out air bubbles before clipping/screwing on. They have instructions on their website.
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09-06-2007, 03:02 PM
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#48
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Vancouver
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yeah, the pressure of the heatsink should be enough to spread the AS5 out. You don't need to spread it out yourself.
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09-06-2007, 04:47 PM
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#49
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Burninator
Worth that would be great if you uploaded the video, and don't worry I won't make you go through the trouble of mailing it.
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I just checked and the video is 650mb, so I can't upload it to yousendit. They have a limit of 100mb.
So unless anyone has webspace I can upload to, I may have to mail you a CD which is no big deal, will just take a couple days.
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09-06-2007, 06:38 PM
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#50
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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You may need to install the heat sing BEFORE you screw in the motherboard. Check that before you get too carried away.
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09-14-2007, 06:59 AM
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#52
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Vancouver
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Which revision on the Q6600 do you have? Look on the side of the label
SL9UM = B3
SCLAR = G0
I would think their all G0 now.
Q6600 B3 stepping = 105 watts
Q6600 G0 stepping = 95 watts
The word is the G0 stepping runs a little cooler which will allow for a higher overclock. But even with a B3 should still be able to get over 3ghz on air.
The guts of your computer look pretty similar to mine. You'll be happy.
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09-14-2007, 09:03 AM
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#53
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Franchise Player
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I'll take a look when I get home, I have no idea which it is.
It's funny actually. I've been talking to my friends and family about my computer and they don't understand why I am building my own computer. I tell them, one the reasons is because I can get a really powerful computer. And they say, but it'll be useless and too slow in two years. Then they get lost in the next part of the conversation where I try to explain that I bought quite good parts so I should be fine. Not to mention upgrading is very easy. They all think I'm wasting my money, but once it's stacked up to their mid range dells, I'm sure they'll be singing a different tune.
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09-14-2007, 09:36 AM
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#54
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Vancouver
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Truthfully, the main reason I build my own is that it's a lot of fun. You get the satisfaction of knowing you put it together and that most other people wouldn't know where to start and the fact you can choose every component.
Enjoy it!
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09-14-2007, 11:04 AM
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#55
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Sector 7-G
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Quote:
Originally Posted by worth
Which revision on the Q6600 do you have? Look on the side of the label
SL9UM = B3
SCLAR = G0
I would think their all G0 now.
Q6600 B3 stepping = 105 watts
Q6600 G0 stepping = 95 watts
The word is the G0 stepping runs a little cooler which will allow for a higher overclock. But even with a B3 should still be able to get over 3ghz on air.
The guts of your computer look pretty similar to mine. You'll be happy.
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OCing the Q6600 is a breeze...My B3 is at 3.01 Ghz (all FSB) on just a Ultra 120 Extreme with low flow fans all around. And that's with 4 RAM modules too.
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09-14-2007, 11:08 AM
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#56
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Vancouver
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what are your temps with the 120 extreme idle and load?
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09-15-2007, 01:33 PM
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#57
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Franchise Player
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So everything is assembled, but when I go to power up I get no video or beeps. All the fans and the hard drive seem to be working. The LED on the Mobo is lit up. But nothing happens. I'm not really sure what the problem is. I've double checked all my cable connections.
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09-15-2007, 02:34 PM
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#58
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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memory?
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09-15-2007, 03:00 PM
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#59
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Franchise Player
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I took it out and put it back in and rebooted. Nothing. Double checked the mobo guide for placement. Still nothing.
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09-15-2007, 03:08 PM
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#60
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Burninator
I took it out and put it back in and rebooted. Nothing. Double checked the mobo guide for placement. Still nothing.
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I've heard of people trying one stick at a time in each slot.
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