Kerry Concedes

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally posted by albertGQ@Nov 3 2004, 03:52 PM

IMO Incest and homosexuality is a condition and/or a mental disturbance

LOL that's good stuff.

[AFireInside]

Originally posted by albertGQ+Nov 3 2004, 09:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (albertGQ @ Nov 3 2004, 09:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Honestly, have you ever enjoyed a good girl on girl porn?

You probably have, and loved every second of it.

You got me there. At least I can admit it.

Lesbians are okay and ******s are not. IMO

Call me closed-minded when it comes to homosexuality, but thats the way I am [/b][/quote]
You've gotta be kidding me, thats what my friends used to say when we were about 14... Don't get me wrong, girl on girl is damn good and all, but thats one of the dumbest things I've read on here in awhile.. Its ok for women to be gay but not ok for men? Wow, someone's got a phobia.

[albertGQ]

Originally posted by AFireInside+Nov 3 2004, 04:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (AFireInside @ Nov 3 2004, 04:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

You got me there. At least I can admit it.

Lesbians are okay and ******s are not. IMO

Call me closed-minded when it comes to homosexuality, but thats the way I am

You've gotta be kidding me, thats what my friends used to say when we were about 14... Don't get me wrong, girl on girl is damn good and all, but thats one of the dumbest things I've read on here in awhile.. Its ok for women to be gay but not ok for men? Wow, someone's got a phobia. [/b][/quote]
No phobia for me. I work with a nubmer of gay guys and I have no problem with them.

My above comment was out of line. In actuality, gays are okay with me. Its just that if I got to vote for or against gay marriages, I would vote no

[Reaper]

Originally posted by albertGQ+Nov 3 2004, 03:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (albertGQ @ Nov 3 2004, 03:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Honestly, have you ever enjoyed a good girl on girl porn?

You probably have, and loved every second of it.

You got me there. At least I can admit it.

Lesbians are okay and ******s are not. IMO

Call me closed-minded when it comes to homosexuality, but thats the way I am [/b][/quote]
Sounds like a self serving double standard to me.

So, just to be clear... two women engaged in a homosexual relationship is okay because you're comfortable with it and two men engaged in a homosexual relationship is wrong because you're uncomfortable with it and it's not part of your scene?

Stop me if I'm getting close.

[albertGQ]

Originally posted by Reaper+Nov 3 2004, 05:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Reaper @ Nov 3 2004, 05:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

You got me there. At least I can admit it.

Lesbians are okay and ******s are not. IMO

Call me closed-minded when it comes to homosexuality, but thats the way I am

Sounds like a self serving double standard to me.

So, just to be clear... two women engaged in a homosexual relationship is okay because you're comfortable with it and two men engaged in a homosexual relationship is wrong because you're uncomfortable with it and it's not part of your scene?

Stop me if I'm getting close. [/b][/quote]
I corrected myself above

[Reaper]

Originally posted by albertGQ+Nov 3 2004, 06:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (albertGQ @ Nov 3 2004, 06:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Sounds like a self serving double standard to me.

So, just to be clear... two women engaged in a homosexual relationship is okay because you're comfortable with it and two men engaged in a homosexual relationship is wrong because you're uncomfortable with it and it's not part of your scene?

Stop me if I'm getting close.

I corrected myself above [/b][/quote]
Sorry, I usually post responses directly after reading a post.

Sometimes, it ends up in me missing the pile-on but usually it allows me to keep my thoughts fresh.

[albertGQ]

Originally posted by Reaper+Nov 3 2004, 05:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Reaper @ Nov 3 2004, 05:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

I corrected myself above

Sorry, I usually post responses directly after reading a post.

Sometimes, it ends up in me missing the pile-on but usually it allows me to keep my thoughts fresh. [/b][/quote]
No prob bob

[peter12]

Originally posted by MrMastodonFarm+Nov 3 2004, 03:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MrMastodonFarm @ Nov 3 2004, 03:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-albertGQ@Nov 3 2004, 03:52 PM
homosexuality is a condition and/or a mental disturbance

Honestly, have you ever enjoyed a good girl on girl porn?

You probably have, and loved every second of it. [/b][/quote]
Funniest thing ever...

Albert have you ever heard of the incest taboo? One of the few things on this planet that is a cultural universal throughout history. Your little scenario may happen once every so often but the fact is incest is nowhere near as common as homosexuality.

When it does occure it is most often in the form of abuse.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally posted by octothorp@Nov 3 2004, 04:25 PM
As much as I hate the outcome, this was the right thing for Kerry to do.

It was, and you know something...his concession speech was outstanding. He should be commended.

Thanks to the voters in South Dakota, it will be easier for the Senate to achieve the goal Kerry laid out in the speech.

[albertGQ]

Originally posted by peter12+Nov 3 2004, 05:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (peter12 @ Nov 3 2004, 05:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Honestly, have you ever enjoyed a good girl on girl porn?

You probably have, and loved every second of it.

Funniest thing ever...

Albert have you ever heard of the incest taboo? One of the few things on this planet that is a cultural universal throughout history. Your little scenario may happen once every so often but the fact is incest is nowhere near as common as homosexuality.

When it does occure it is most often in the form of abuse. [/b][/quote]
At one point in time, homosexuality was also taboo, was in the form of abuse and not that common either. It has become more and more accepted and common nowadays. Who knows, maybe incest is following a similar but slower path.

You may be thinking there is no way incest would ever become common in society. But then again, no one thought the earth was round. No one thought the world revolved around the sun. No one thought women would ever be able to vote. No one thought cloning was possible. No one thought humans could communicate countries apart over a computer in mere seconds.

Ask your grandparents. They will probably say when they were teenagers, there was no way gay marriages would be a hot topic let alone a possibly in some provinces in Canada and/or states in the US.

You may not see incest becoming more common in todays society, but don't say its not a possibility

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally posted by albertGQ+Nov 3 2004, 08:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (albertGQ @ Nov 3 2004, 08:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Funniest thing ever...

Albert have you ever heard of the incest taboo? One of the few things on this planet that is a cultural universal throughout history. Your little scenario may happen once every so often but the fact is incest is nowhere near as common as homosexuality.

When it does occure it is most often in the form of abuse.

At one point in time, homosexuality was also taboo, was in the form of abuse and not that common either. It has become more and more accepted and common nowadays. Who knows, maybe incest is following a similar but slower path.

You may be thinking there is no way incest would ever become common in society. But then again, no one thought the earth was round. No one thought the world revolved around the sun. No one thought women would ever be able to vote. No one thought cloning was possible. No one thought humans could communicate countries apart over a computer in mere seconds.

Ask your grandparents. They will probably say when they were teenagers, there was no way gay marriages would be a hot topic let alone a possibly in some provinces in Canada and/or states in the US.

You may not see incest becoming more common in todays society, but don't say its not a possibility [/b][/quote]
Good lord are you serious?

Incest and homosexuality have nothing to do with each other so why are you trying to connect the two? Oh right, you have nothing else to stand on. You've said repeatedly that you just don't like it but you haven't given a reason why. You've tried the limp "but if a woman wanted to marry her son" argument but that is unrelated to the issue and therefore useless. You don't like it? Congratulations. Don't do it, and you'll be fine.

Just for interests sake though, why don't you tell us one effect that a couple of guys getting married would have on your life. How would that change your life or do anything to you personally? If Tom and Dave across the street get legally married, what happens to AlbertGQ?

[albertGQ]

Just for interests sake though, why don't you tell us one effect that a couple of guys getting married would have on your life. How would that change your life or do anything to you personally? If Tom and Dave across the street get legally married, what happens to AlbertGQ?

Nothing happens to me. I never said I would be affected. I just said if I had to vote for or against gay marriages, I would vote against.

Same question to you. If Tom and Dave accross the street get legally married, and they are twin brothers, what happens to you???

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally posted by albertGQ@Nov 3 2004, 08:49 PM

Nothing happens to me. I never said I would be affected. I just said if I had to vote for or against gay marriages, I would vote against.

Same question to you. If Tom and Dave accross the street get legally married, and they are twin brothers, what happens to you???

Okay now that's what I don't get. You are basically saying "I don't care, it has no effect on me, but I'd vote against it". Why vote against it then? You don't even care. Even though you don't care and you acknowledge it doesn't hurt you you'd still say no? Why?

As for Tom and Dave being twin brothers -- what does that have to do with it? You should try to make a better case for this marrying-your-family-member business because it is not making any sort of point. It seems that you have a slippery-slope argument working here but it is not coming across.

But just for fun -- back in the day when homosexuality was locked tightly into the closet and the idea of gay marriage was completely outrageous -- in those days people married their cousins all the time. Long before gay marriage was an issue, incest was happening. Perhaps we can blame that on straight marriage?

[albertGQ]

Originally posted by RougeUnderoos+Nov 3 2004, 08:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RougeUnderoos @ Nov 3 2004, 08:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-albertGQ@Nov 3 2004, 08:49 PM

Nothing happens to me. I never said I would be affected. I just said if I had to vote for or against gay marriages, I would vote against.

Same question to you. If Tom and Dave accross the street get legally married, and they are twin brothers, what happens to you???

Okay now that's what I don't get. You are basically saying "I don't care, it has no effect on me, but I'd vote against it". Why vote against it then? You don't even care. Even though you don't care and you acknowledge it doesn't hurt you you'd still say no? Why?

As for Tom and Dave being twin brothers -- what does that have to do with it? You should try to make a better case for this marrying-your-family-member business because it is not making any sort of point. It seems that you have a slippery-slope argument working here but it is not coming across.

But just for fun -- back in the day when homosexuality was locked tightly into the closet and the idea of gay marriage was completely outrageous -- in those days people married their cousins all the time. Long before gay marriage was an issue, incest was happening. Perhaps we can blame that on straight marriage? [/b][/quote]
If you read the other post where me and MMF were going back and forth you would've realised that hours ago instead of going through this whole charade with me.

I've asked you that incest marriage question multiple times now and you have yet to answer it.

[BlackArcher101]

Originally posted by MrMastodonFarm+Nov 3 2004, 04:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MrMastodonFarm @ Nov 3 2004, 04:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Pagal4321@Nov 3 2004, 03:36 PM
I am not a moderator,

Then don't act like one, and don't tell me to bring a discussion to pm's ever again. [/b][/quote]
Don't be a baby MMF.

Log on to CP and find another election thread ruined by incest/gay talk.

On Topic now, Good to see Kerry admiting he's done. What makes me wonder though are the people that say it was mathematically impossible for him to win Ohio. Wasn't there more absentee ballots than # of votes he was behind?

[RougeUnderoos]

What effect would two twin brothers getting married have on me? None. How's that?

What effect does that have on this issue? None.

[albertGQ]

Originally posted by RougeUnderoos@Nov 3 2004, 08:10 PM
What effect would two twin brothers getting married have on me? None. How's that?

What effect does that have on this issue? None.

Since it has no effect on you, you probably vote for it right?

My scenario not having an effect on the gay marriage issue is your opinion

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally posted by albertGQ@Nov 3 2004, 09:06 PM
I've asked you that incest marriage question multiple times now and you have yet to answer it.

For someone who is against gay marriage, you sure seem to have a fetish for incest.

BTW, I saw 2 sisters kiss each other (no tongue) at a party once................hot stuff!!!!


IMO, if incest is illigel (which I believe it is) then they should not be allowed to marry. If it is legal, go for it.

Last time I checked, homosexuality was not illegal.

[albertGQ]

Originally posted by KootenayFlamesFan+Nov 3 2004, 08:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (KootenayFlamesFan @ Nov 3 2004, 08:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-albertGQ@Nov 3 2004, 09:06 PM
I've asked you that incest marriage question multiple times now and you have yet to answer it.

For someone who is against gay marriage, you sure seem to have a fetish for incest.

BTW, I saw 2 sisters kiss each other (no tongue) at a party once................hot stuff!!!!


IMO, if incest is illigel (which I believe it is) then they should not be allowed to marry. If it is legal, go for it.

Last time I checked, homosexuality was not illegal. [/b][/quote]
No fetish. Its just that when I said I would vote no for gay marriages, the ONLY arguement against my stance is that it doesn't affect me.

Tom marrying his twin brother Dave does not affect society either. So does that mean we should allow them to marry? NO (IMO)

[Red]

Originally posted by KootenayFlamesFan+Nov 3 2004, 08:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (KootenayFlamesFan @ Nov 3 2004, 08:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-albertGQ@Nov 3 2004, 09:06 PM
I've asked you that incest marriage question multiple times now and you have yet to answer it.

For someone who is against gay marriage, you sure seem to have a fetish for incest.

BTW, I saw 2 sisters kiss each other (no tongue) at a party once................hot stuff!!!!


IMO, if incest is illigel (which I believe it is) then they should not be allowed to marry. If it is legal, go for it.

Last time I checked, homosexuality was not illegal. [/b][/quote]
The question is; why is it illegal and what can be done to change that?

And then ask yourself why you shouldn't be able to marry your dog or cat or both.

Gay marriage has as little effect on me as someone marrying a cat so I should have no problem with that either, right?

There could be a lot of questions asked and they will be with time. When you think about it am I a free person if I am not allowed to do drugs in the privacy of my own home?

Some lawyers may have a good case with those and if you throw out religion and morals as your defense then what do you have left to keep things the way they are?

I think those are valid questions, don't you?
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