Boy Bags Wild Hog Bigger Than 'Hogzilla'

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

But there is a rather large gap between an objects intended use and it's "Sole" use.

My point is that a guns sole use isn't killing. Sure that is the main and intended use, but it most certainly isn't it's "sole" use.

I think we are in agreement and just arguing semantics. So I'll drop it.

[Ford Prefect]

Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy

Have you ever been to A-L-B-E-R-T-A?

Drive out of the cities and there are plenty of 11 year olds shooting.

I must take exception with your post. Your stereotyping of rural Abertans as a bunch of trigger happy redneck hillbillies is incorrect and offensive. I grew up in rural Alberta, and after a 20-year stint in Calgary I am once again living in rural Alberta. I have numerous cousins, nephews, nieces, etc. who have grown up in rural Alberta. I have never known of an 11-year-old who shot anything more powerful than a pellet gun, so I must challenge your assertion. Do you have any solid proof that 11-year-olds are running around Alberta shooting up things with hunting rifles or high calibre hand guns? In my experince, the biggest gun problem in rural Alberta is yahoos from the cities who come out and shoot livestock, owls, grainaries, barns, etc. I know of people who've even had their family dog shot by urbanite hunters.

[Locke]

Yeah, that seems like a fairly broad generalization. The one I made of Alabama isnt entirely accurate either, its just a very common stereotype. The thing with stereotypes is that they often have a modicum of truth at the core.

The truth of this situation however, seems more likely to be somewhere in the middle. Alberta has its share of crazy rednecks, as does Alabama, as does pretty much everywhere. However, the percentage of these people in comparison to the entire population is considerably smaller here than in Alabama.

The issue I suppose, is whether you believe 11 year olds should have guns or not. No I dont. The reason being that I dont believe even most adults behave properly with weapons.

Evidently this kid knew how to use it quite well. Does that mean that this singular event is indicative of his overall behaviour when handling a weapon? Not at all. He may have shot someone's dog at another point in time and been wildly irresponsible, it simply wasnt brought to our attention as it may only have been reported in a small local paper if at all.

So, sorry Ford and Clever_Iggy, I have to disagree on certain counts with both of you, and myself on one too actually, but thems the breaks.

Locke.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by Ford Prefect

I must take exception with your post. Your stereotyping of rural Abertans as a bunch of trigger happy redneck hillbillies is incorrect and offensive. I grew up in rural Alberta, and after a 20-year stint in Calgary I am once again living in rural Alberta. I have numerous cousins, nephews, nieces, etc. who have grown up in rural Alberta. I have never known of an 11-year-old who shot anything more powerful than a pellet gun, so I must challenge your assertion. Do you have any solid proof that 11-year-olds are running around Alberta shooting up things with hunting rifles or high calibre hand guns? In my experince, the biggest gun problem in rural Alberta is yahoos from the cities who come out and shoot livestock, owls, grainaries, barns, etc. I know of people who've even had their family dog shot by urbanite hunters.

I grew up in rural Alberta too. My brothers and I were allowed to shoot small calibre .22's and when we were big enough, a shot gun... always under the supervision of my dad. Sometimes we would be allowed to shot the .306 at targets but we had years of shooting experience. We moved to Calgary when I was in my teens and would go out to my family ranch to shoot. Throughout highschool and college I worked on a ranch with cattle and the kids on the ranch were paid to shoot gophers with .22s.

I dont think Im stereotyping at all. You dont see a whole lot of shooting in the cities, but definitely in the country. And if you are taking that as stereotyping, then Im including myself in that stereotype as well.

I didnt mean the post to sound as if Im attacking rural Alberta.

[Ford Prefect]

Originally Posted by Locke

The issue I suppose, is whether you believe 11 year olds should have guns or not. No I dont. The reason being that I dont believe even most adults behave properly with weapons.
Locke.

Depending on what you mean by "guns" I agree ... 11-year-olds should not have or use guns that they are prohibited from owning and using by law. In other words, I'm not concerned if an 11-year-old has a toy gun. Personally, I do not own or wish to own a gun. But that's just my choice. I do not expect my choice on this matter to be enforced on others who legally and responsibly own guns.

Ths issue for me is not about the guns, but about the use of the rednect steroptype for rural Albertans. Yes, they exist, just as they exist everywhere. But they do not form the majority of the population of rural Albertans and I dislike the majority of rural Albertans being falsely stereotyped in this way. In my experience, the biggest and most obnoxious rednecks I have ever known have been certain Calgarians and certain Quebecois. However, I do not think it's fair to brand the majority Calgarians and Quebecois as flaming rednecks just because they are the two demographic groups that have yielded the biggest rednecks I've ever known. My point is that rednecks exist everywhere, and in relatively the same numbers, so I'm tired of rural Albertans being singled out as the only place/main place that rednecks exist.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by Ford Prefect

My point is that rednecks exist everywhere, and in relatively the same numbers, so I'm tired of rural Albertans being singled out as the only place/main place that rednecks exist.

Cheers Ford.

Just because you live in rural Alberta and/or own a gun doesnt mean youre a redneck. Just because you live in the urban Alberta and dont own a gun doesnt mean youre not a redneck.

I think owning a gun and using it properly is perfectly fine. I was raised to respect the power of a gun and never shot one with out my dad right beside me until I got my own license. Now that I live in the US, it's interesting how far people take their "right" to own a gun. Very interesting.

[Ford Prefect]

Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy

I grew up in rural Alberta too. My brothers and I were allowed to shoot small calibre .22's and when we were big enough, a shot gun... always under the supervision of my dad. Sometimes we would be allowed to shot the .306 at targets but we had years of shooting experience. We moved to Calgary when I was in my teens and would go out to my family ranch to shoot. Throughout highschool and college I worked on a ranch with cattle and the kids on the ranch were paid to shoot gophers with .22s.

I dont think Im stereotyping at all. You dont see a whole lot of shooting in the cities, but definitely in the country. And if you are taking that as stereotyping, then Im including myself in that stereotype as well.

I didnt mean the post to sound as if Im attacking rural Alberta.

Fair enough. Thanks for expanding on your post to clarify things for me.

One point I wish to stress though, in general more than in response to your post, is that a lot of the "rednecks" who go around shooting up rural Alberta are from the cities. Sure, urbanites don't go around shooting up the cities, as you point out. But they do go out to rural areas and shoot them up. It's not rural Albertans who are shooting up graineries, livestock and family pets. They have more respect for their neighbours than that. That was the issue that touched on a sore spot with me based on personal experiences.

[Bobblehead]

BTW, it now turn out that this was raised on a farm as a pet.

FRUITHURST, Ala. — Before he became known as "Monster Pig," the 1,051-pound hog shot in Delta was known by another name.
Fred.
Rhonda and Phil Blissitt told The Anniston Star on Thursday evening that, on April 29, four days before the hog was killed, Fred was one of many livestock on their farm.
Late Thursday evening, their claims were confirmed by Andy Howell, Game Warden for the Alabama Department of Wildlife and Freshwater Fisheries.
"I didn't want to stir up anything," Rhonda Blissitt said. "I just wanted the truth to be told. That wasn't a wild pig."

From his treats of canned sweet potatoes to how their grandchildren would play with him, their stories painted the picture of a gentle giant. They even talked about how their small Chihuahua would get in the pen with him and come out unscathed.

link

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

BTW, it now turn out that this was raised on a farm as a pet.

First: Creepy, creepy pet.

Second: Why then, did this boy kill him?

Third: Still a creepy pet.

Locke.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by Locke

First: Creepy, creepy pet.

Second: Why then, did this boy kill him?

Third: Still a creepy pet.

Locke.

From the article I linked:

Phil Blissitt purchased the pig for his wife as a Christmas gift in December of 2004. From 6 weeks old, they raised the pig as it grew to its enormous size. Not long ago, they decided to sell off all of their pigs. Eddy Borden, owner of Lost Creek Plantation, purchased Fred.

And from the original article:

With the pig finally dead in a creek bed on the 2,500-acre Lost Creek Plantation, a commercial hunting preserve in Delta, trees had to be cut down and a backhoe brought in to bring Jamison's prize out of the woods.

So Lost Creek Plantation goes out and buys animals to release so people can "hunt" them. The phrase "fish in a barrel" comes to mind.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

So Lost Creek Plantation goes out and buys animals to release so people can "hunt" them. The phrase "fish in a barrel" comes to mind.

Just so long as they have a poster on their premises indicating that Dick Cheney is not permitted on or within, 100 meters of their property....

That sucks, you sold you 'beloved' family pet so some 11 year old could kill it with a handgun.

That sounds like something the Oilers would do.........

Okay, that Oilers one was a little out of line, but it was too good to pass up, I'm kicking them while they're down.

Locke.

[Biff]

Originally Posted by Locke

That sounds like something the Oilers would do.........

Okay, that Oilers one was a little out of line, but it was too good to pass up, I'm kicking them while they're down.

Locke.

NO! The Oilers would sign the big pig for 5 years at $6million per year and then it would demand a trade one year later and would get dealt for a an OMG ALL-STAR calibre forward and an OMG ALL-STAR young defenceman and some draft picks. Then ALL OF EDMONTON would hunt the big pig. Theoretically.