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J pold · 03-01-2007, 12:56 PM

I tell yah what we know a lot more about beer than we do about your stupid ass comerical

Frank the Tank · 03-01-2007, 01:05 PM

The problem with all of our analogy's is that we are talking about percieved quality. Someones Lucky Lager is my Keith's and my Keith's is someone elses Stella. Its all relative to the end consumer.

And as far as horrid beers go, there is only one beer that I have never been able to finish at least one bottle of; Carib. Wow.

JohnnyB · 03-01-2007, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Barnes

People don't know the difference.

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Well its the popular choice because of marketing as well. We see Molson Canadian adds everywhere. The smaller breweries can't market that way. Therefore, those people who just want to have a typical beer will just buy what they've heard of. I don't think most avid beer conosseurs (sp) would choose Canadian as their top choice.

I agree with both of these. But more than advertising I would also say the popularity of Molson and the other huge beers is dependent upon availability. You simply don't see the beers from smaller breweries available country wide and internationally. If a beer is only available in a small market it's obviously not going to be competitive with a beer that's covering an international market, so it doesn't say much about quality that the small breweries are not consumed at the same level.

Furthermore, I think most people like to have things that are familiar to them. Molson is an example of a low quality but widely available product that people are familiar with and can find to drink no matter the unfamiliar local. Just look at success of business chains that spread like wildfire, often forcing out smaller local businesses to the chagrin of all the loyal members of those small businesses local markets. I don't think youd probably say that McDonalds is better than your local Mom & Pop burger shack, or a Peters Drive or other such comparable place, but they sure sell a lot more burgers and shut a lot of those little places down.

Thunderball · 03-01-2007, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ken0042

So, for all of you who seem intent on bashing beers like Canadian et al, I have a question.

If the beer is indeed so bad why is it one of the top selling beers in the country; if not the number one beer?

Advertising and availability.

Molson has a brilliant marketing campaign that equates drinking Molson Canadian beer to being patriotic and "Canadian".

Molson Canadian also tends to be cheaper, and found everywhere that sells beer... unless that place has a deal with Labatt, and then you'll find Blue. Can't get Sleeman everywhere, nor can you get Big Rock, Kokanee, Granville Island, Moosehead etc. If you do, more often than not, its considered a "premium beer" and costs between 50c to $2 more at a pub, or $2-5 more per 6/12 pack.

I do believe Budweiser is the top selling beer in Alberta by far. While not exactly champagne, its a much better mass-produced beer than Canadian or Blue, at least in this humble beer drinker's opinion. But again, there's advertising and availability. I don't think any legitimate beer drinker's top 5 beers would be Canadian, Blue, Coors Light, Bud Light and Budweiser... but I guarantee those are the top 5 selling beers. Taste tests would yield very different results, likely favoring the smaller Canadian breweries.

Igottago · 03-01-2007, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank the Tank

The problem with all of our analogy's is that we are talking about percieved quality. Someones Lucky Lager is my Keith's and my Keith's is someone elses Stella. Its all relative to the end consumer.

And as far as horrid beers go, there is only one beer that I have never been able to finish at least one bottle of; Carib. Wow.

I hate Coor's Light: The Silver Bullet..I've only ever had one once, and I hated it. I hate their commercials, I hate everything about it. I'd rather drink OV, which borders on drinking pi$$.

Thunderball · 03-01-2007, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Igottago

I hate Coor's Light: The Silver Bullet..I've only ever had one once, and I hated it. I hate their commercials, I hate everything about it. I'd rather drink OV, which borders on drinking pi$$.

I find ice cold Coors Light very refreshing on a hot summer day. Its like drinking Club Soda with a hint of beer and alcohol. Is it a quality beer? absolutely not.

ken0042 · 03-01-2007, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Burninator

Well I don't have any numbers to back me up. But radio play time and record sales gotta be pretty close.

Truth be told; they often aren't. I also don't have exact numbers to back this up, but the radio stations are required to play a seriously high amount of Canadian Content; somewhere around 30%. And that CanCon gets broken down even further. For example, because Bryan Adams uses American writers, producers, and musicians; his music only counts as something like 10% Canadian.

So CJAY can play 1 Nickelback song, then go on to play 2 other non-Canadian songs. Whereas if they played a Bryan Adams song, they would have to play 3 of his songs in a row to be able to play one non-Canadian song.

My point being; there is no law stating I have to drink so many Molson beers before I can buy a case of Stella. (Thank god.)

SaskaBushFire · 03-01-2007, 01:24 PM

I'd have to say that Ladies Lite isn't bad, I would support Labatts just for that. It's great on fishing trips for the 9 or 10 A.M. beer. Way better than coors or bud light.

Kipper is King · 03-01-2007, 01:49 PM

I know that Molson Canadian has no flavor. I also know that Guinness rocks, and that Innis & Gunn is also amazing beer. I also like Rickard's Red and India Pale Ale.

Winsor_Pilates · 03-01-2007, 02:24 PM

Molson Canadian is terrible IMO. But yeah, it's a matter of opinion I guess.
I think the main reason it's so popular is marketing, price and the "Canadian" factor.

I actually really like Rickards Red, which is a Molson product too, but I hate Canadian.

and by "hate", I mean if it's the only beer around, I will still drink a ton of it and enjoy myself.

Barnes · 03-01-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunderball

I find ice cold Coors Light very refreshing on a hot summer day. Its like drinking Club Soda with a hint of beer and alcohol. Is it a quality beer? absolutely not.

I love extremly cold Coors Light. It's my camping beer.

Frank the Tank · 03-01-2007, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kipper is King

I know that Molson Canadian has no flavor. I also know that Guinness rocks, and that Innis & Gunn is also amazing beer. I also like Rickard's Red and India Pale Ale.

Innis & Gunn kicks all kinds of ass! Awesome beer. I also enjoy Old Speckled Hen from time to time.

troutman · 03-01-2007, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

I actually really like Rickards Red, which is a Molson product too, but I hate Canadian.

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This might be an urban myth, but a friend told me a Molson rep told him that Rickards IS Molson Canadian - with food coloring.

Winsor_Pilates · 03-01-2007, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by troutman

This might be an urban myth, but a friend told me a Molson rep told him that Rickards IS Molson Canadian - with food coloring.

I have a friend, who has a cousin, whos mom knows the grandma of the guy who started Molson and he told me that's an urban myth.

It can't be true unless it's flavoured food colouring cause they taste very different.

Thunderball · 03-01-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by troutman

This might be an urban myth, but a friend told me a Molson rep told him that Rickards IS Molson Canadian - with food coloring.

I've heard something similar, that its apparently Molson Canadian with something that changes the color to a deep red, and I'm assuming changes the taste just slightly.

troutman · 03-01-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

I have a friend, who has a cousin, whos mom knows the grandma of the guy who started Molson and he told me that's an urban myth.

It can't be true unless it's flavoured food colouring cause they taste very different.

We need to approach this scientifically. I suggest we buy a few cases of Canadian and Rickards - drink it all, then . . . . what was the question?

Frank the Tank · 03-01-2007, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by troutman

We need to approach this scientifically. I suggest we buy a few cases of Canadian and Rickards - drink it all, then . . . . what was the question?

I cannot guarantee that my pants will remain on for the duration of the experiment....

troutman · 03-01-2007, 03:38 PM

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I cannot guarantee that my pants will remain on for the duration of the experiment....

Oh oh. Repressed memories from my lost night in London Ontario slowly returning . . .

Frank the Tank · 03-01-2007, 03:41 PM

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Oh oh. Repressed memories from my lost night in London Ontario slowly returning . . .

We're goin' streakin'!! Who's with me!?!

And I wonder why my wife won't go drinking with me any more. Or my neighbours. Or any of my friends.

wpgflamesfan · 03-01-2007, 03:47 PM

Personally I enjoy different kinds of beers at different times. If i'm having a nice steak then i usually go with a beer like guiness, if i'm drinking in large quantities then i go with lucky cause it's dirt cheap, if i'm just chillen watchin the game i like MGD or Ricard's, and when it's really hot outside nothing beats Corona.