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Old 12-03-2006, 08:34 PM   #41
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Have you had your windshield covered with eggs as you are driving down the street? If yes, please explain how that happened. If it did happen, what kind of gun did you use to kill the person responsible. If youd didn't kill that person, why not?

And I have another question for you...what if YOU came home one night to find your family tid up and gagged, with SOCKS in their mouths.They're screaming.Your trying to get in but there's too much BLOOD on the knob!!!!!
What gun did I use? Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Read my previous posts.

Btw bolding your message and capping words is not, I repeat, is not going to make your point any clearer with me. Re type your post.
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:40 PM   #42
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" I can'r believe you think the shooter is a 100% responsible."

The shooter is 100% responsible. If you own a gun, you are responsible
for it's discharge. You are responsible for the damage it does, plus, you
must take the consequences. A gun is not a harmless object, it is
designed to kill. You only use it when you intend to kill, only
in circumstances where you are about to be killed.

An egg, on the other hand, is harmless, and a prank.

The two do not go hand in hand.

The shooter, at minimum, should get life in prison.

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The shooter is not 100% responsible. If those little pukes didn't throw those eggs they'd still be alive.

Like I said until you have your visibilty reduced due to eggs on your windshield, come back and talk to me. I damn near hit a parked vehicle due to being startled and the act of trying to clear my windshield with my wipers.
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:42 PM   #43
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I damn near hit a parked vehicle due to being startled and the act of trying to clear my windshield with my wipers.
So that justifies you murdering somebody?

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Old 12-03-2006, 08:44 PM   #44
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So that justifies you murdering somebody?

You win life.
Who said anything about mudering someone???

Show me a post where I stated I would murder those kids.

I thank you in advance for your apology.
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:45 PM   #45
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Yeah that would suck.

But imagine this -- some kid throws an egg at your car... and you get egg on your car...eggshell on your door handle...and before you go to the car wash... you chase that kid down and kill him...then you get your car washed...and the egg is off the car...and you spend the rest of your life in prison...but at least you made sure that little creep would never hit another car with an egg...so you can sleep at night.

Seems perfectly reasonable to me. I mean cripes, the guy probably had Turtle Wax on that thing and the whole bit. Kids today don't appreciate the value of a good shine. So we should kill them.
Sure...I already know that.

I don't support the killing...but I can't put one party at innocense...and blame the other side completley.
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:47 PM   #46
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Have you had your windshield covered with eggs as you are driving down the street? If yes, please explain how that happened. If it did happen, what kind of gun did you use to kill the person responsible. If youd didn't kill that person, why not?

And I have another question for you...what if YOU came home one night to find your family tid up and gagged, with SOCKS in their mouths.They're screaming.Your trying to get in but there's too much BLOOD on the knob!!!!!
We had a neighbor who drove his car into a ditch...rolled it numerous times...and now he's paralyzed for life.

All because someone threw a beer bottle at his car while he was driving.

The kid was 14 years old...at 14 I knew you shouldn't throw stuff at cars that were driving by. Thats the stuff I did when I was 7.

Therefore...the 14 year old is at fault too...but he shouldn't have been killed...that I will say was dead wrong..and the shooter deserves to be serverly punished.
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:48 PM   #47
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Who said anything about mudering someone???

Show me a post where I stated I would murder those kids.

I thank you in advance for your apology.
No, but you are advocating that the guy in this story was justified in his actions.
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:50 PM   #48
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No, but you are advocating that the guy in this story was justified in his actions.
Show me a post where I advocated he was justified in his actions.
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:56 PM   #49
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I can'r believe you think the shooter is a 100% responsible. Guess you haven't had your windshield covered with eggs as your driving down the street - not to mention the almost zero visabilty.

You just keep on supporting those little angels.
I havn't, but if I did I can guarentee that pulling out my shotgun wouldn't be the first thing on my mind.

You just keep defending a murderer.
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I havn't, but if I did I can guarentee that pulling out my shotgun wouldn't be the first thing on my mind.

You just keep defending a murderer.
Care to show me where I defended the murderer?
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I can'r believe you think the shooter is a 100% responsible. Guess you haven't had your windshield covered with eggs as your driving down the street - not to mention the almost zero visabilty.

You just keep on supporting those little angels.
Dear god I have kept silent long enough. What you saying is 100% the same as me saying "some guy walked up to me and spit in my face so I SHOT him in the chest and killed him, and because he started it Iam not 100% responsible."

Give your head a shake...by your reasoning cheating spouses.....ok to be murdered, grade school bullies.........kill them, some guy rear ended you.....shoot the prick.

Just beacuse they kids initiated the conflict does not mean the shooter is still not 100% responsible, because he IS.
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Old 12-03-2006, 09:10 PM   #52
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Dear god I have kept silent long enough. What you saying is 100% the same as me saying "some guy walked up to me and spit in my face so I SHOT him in the chest and killed him, and because he started it Iam not 100% responsible."

Give your head a shake...by your reasoning cheating spouses.....ok to be murdered, grade school bullies.........kill them, some guy rear ended you.....shoot the prick.

Just beacuse they kids initiated the conflict does not mean the shooter is still not 100% responsible, because he IS.
You know what they say about assumptions........

We are responsible for our actions - both the kids and the shooter.

To suggest the kids are without fault is utter BS.

There is no excuse for what the shooter did. I hope he's caught and sent to jail.

Did the kid deserve to get shot? Nope never said that.

Please ask for clarifications before you make assumptions.
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You are saying the shooter is not 100% at fault. To me thats defending him.

He took out the gun, aimed and fired. It is entirely his fault the kid is dead.

Young teenagers wouldn't think that a person would react like that. They are not mature by that point in life and that is not their fault. I'd never throw an egg at some persons car, but if I did I don't think even I would have considered the possiblity that I'd be shot at.
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You know what they say about assumptions........

We are responsible for our actions - both the kids and the shooter.

To suggest the kids are without fault is utter BS.

There is no excuse for what the shooter did. I hope he's caught and sent to jail.

Did the kid deserve to get shot? Nope never said that.

Please ask for clarifications before you make assumptions.
I dont need a clarification...you saying "the killer is not 100% at fault" was the percursor to my post, that is clearly wrong.

Dont ignore my post. So what about the spitting situation, would the spitter be partly at fault? Cheating spouse? School yard bully? Driver that rear ended you?
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Old 12-03-2006, 09:21 PM   #55
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heh... wanna talk about stupid things?

Me and a friend in a small town i used to live in when i was young went down to the train tracks/train station and put as much metal and debris we could find on the track so we could derail the train... took us about 15 minutes to get everything on there, then we went and hid in the bushes and waited...

before we knew it, the train station guy had us by the necks and I thought my life was over...


got in a little poop for that one... I acutally probably should have been shot for something that stupid.
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Old 12-03-2006, 09:26 PM   #56
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You are saying the shooter is not 100% at fault. To me thats defending him.

He took out the gun, aimed and fired. It is entirely his fault the kid is dead.

Young teenagers wouldn't think that a person would react like that. They are not mature by that point in life and that is not their fault. I'd never throw an egg at some persons car, but if I did I don't think even I would have considered the possiblity that I'd be shot at.
What I am saying is both are responsible the incident. I don't blame other people, places or things for my actions.

As a teenager I knew that provoking starngers could cause the unexpected. I went to school with kids who knew darn well what they were doing and laughed at the young offenders act, Basicly they said they could could comitt crimes until they were 18 as their identities and records would be kept hidden from the public eye.
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What I am saying is both are responsible the incident. I don't blame other people, places or things for my actions.

As a teenager I knew that provoking starngers could cause the unexpected. I went to school with kids who knew darn well what they were doing and laughed at the young offenders act, Basicly they said they could could comitt crimes until they were 18 as their identities and records would be kept hidden from the public eye.
What in the hell does this have to do with the issue at hand?
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I think Jayems proved my point that teenagers, especially one as young as 14, do stupid things that they would have never done just a few years in the future. I've done my fair share.

They are not mature enough to understand the consequences of their actions. If they were 17 years old maybe, but not at 14.

Thats all I have to say on this topic.
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I dont need a clarification...you saying "the killer is not 100% at fault" was the percursor to my post, that is clearly wrong.

Dont ignore my post. So what about the spitting situation, would the spitter be partly at fault? Cheating spouse? School yard bully? Driver that rear ended you?
No, you made a wrong assumption.

As for the spitting incident........

If you shoot the guy you are responsible for the act of shooting him. And the guy who spit at you is responsible for his action of spitting. The fact he spit in your face does not give you the right to shoot him.
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What in the hell does this have to do with the issue at hand?
It has everything to do with the issue that teenagers are not mature enough to understand the actions of what they do.
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