Photo radar is garbage!!!

[TurnedTheCorner]

Originally Posted by ken0042

I love it even more when people miss the obvious pun in the subject of the thread.

I'll be sure to spell it out next time I'm commenting on the discussion to date in a thread instead of the subject line so as not to confuse you.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by InCoGnEtO

:finger:

Bunch of tight asses around these parts.

No, not really. I speed fairly regularly. I also pay a tax to have that privelidge, in the form of a ticket every couple years. I don't complain at all when the cop points out that I made a conscious decision to drive faster than I know is legal. I tell him to have a nice day and I pay my fine.

If you can't afford speeding tickets, don't speed. I promise you won't get any.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

Again, it's being used as a cash cow and not as an actual speed deterrent. My opinion can't be changed on that one.

I somewhat agree, but I have no problem with it. It costs money to enforce the law, traffic included. I think its fair that the lawbreakers carry that cost, not Joe Taxpayer who takes the bus everywhere.

[Jayems]

Originally Posted by ken0042

I've always seen it as the green face. My guess is the place you linked to it from; they didn't like it being used on another site without their permission.

Some sites change it into a banner that says "I'm a bandwidth thief."

there, I fixed it.

[flamesfever]

Originally Posted by JohnnyFlame

I don't really care about people's attitudes if they caught or about the hypocritical holier than thou types either. Just think it's a waste of people's money and dosen't do what it is supposed to do.

Montana had no speed limit for decades and I've never heard anything about it resulting in more accidents. I'd put the enormous amount of the police budget dedicated to traffic into those other crimes you speak of. Those are crimes with some consequences -- sending in a cheque dosen't change people's habits. Take a drive down Deerfoot anyday of the week --Heck just take a drive and you will see how much the radar system is deterring speeding -- NOT one bit.

I remember driving down to Billings, Montana, back in the 80's and recall a stretch of road where they had a cross wherever someone had been killed in an accident. There was one or more crosses in almost every single turn in the road, and it sure left an impression on me.

I'm all for cameras. I think they definately help to reduce the incidence of excessive speeding, even though it's hard to take when you get caught.

[Clarkey]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

I remember driving down to Billings, Montana, back in the 80's and recall a stretch of road where they had a cross wherever someone had been killed in an accident. There was one or more crosses in almost every single turn in the road, and it sure left an impression on me.

I'm all for cameras. I think they definately help to reduce the incidence of excessive speeding, even though it's hard to take when you get caught.

I was in Montana this summer, those crosses really freaked me out. I was driving @ 3am in fog and was white knuckling it the whole way while thinking about those crosses.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

Thank goodness we have people to tell all those folks whose job it is to set up speed limits how to do their job.

Seriously, you can't think of one good reason why the speed limit should be reduced in an environmental protection area where there is a large population of big game that may on occasion want to cross the highway?

isn't that whole strech fenced off anyways? i mean they have those animal crossing bridges just for that, and i've driven that stretch many times and have never even seen an animal larger than a chipmunk

that strip is nothing but a revenue generator. almost no one does 90 in that zone, most people still drive the same way as the 110 zone outside of the park. normally the cops are pretty good about it from what i've seen and don't enforce it that much, but there have been a few times where i guess the quota was too high and they were pulling in cars left and right to give them tickets

[habernac]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

isn't that whole strech fenced off anyways? i mean they have those animal crossing bridges just for that, and i've driven that stretch many times and have never even seen an animal larger than a chipmunk

because animals, of course, know what those bridges are for and that they should be staying off the highway.

[Jayems]

Originally Posted by fotze

Man, would you stop whining!

Edit:

I get it now

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by troutman

It deters me from speeding. What's the hurry Jack?

Trying to get around Sally's like you.

Again, I don't mind that they have it. I have a problem with where they're placing camera's in St.Albert and how they are enforcing it. Having those camera's at intersections to nail people from going through red lights is a good deterrent in my opinion. Intersections are where a high percentage of accidents occur and the fact that it's known that camera's are present makes them safer.

Got it yet?

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by habernac

because animals, of course, know what those bridges are for and that they should be staying off the highway.

then why spend the large amount of money it must have taken to construct them? there are fences on either side of the highway throughout that entire stretch, so your average deer isn't going to get across any other way. it would take a large moose or bear to charge pretty hard to take those out, so i would say the risk of hitting something is fairly minimal

either keep the speed low so drivers can avoid the animals, or fence areas off to prevent them from getting on the highway. having both just seems redundant

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

either keep the speed low so drivers can avoid the animals, or fence areas off to prevent them from getting on the highway. having both just seems redundant

Because it's better to have two safety measures in place.

Just like your car having airbags as well as seatbelts.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by ken0042

Because it's better to have two safety measures in place.

Just like your car having airbags as well as seatbelts.

well lets just make it a law to wear a helmet in your car then, afterall you can never be too safe

[flamesfever]

Originally Posted by fotze

I can't believe they they cost so much. In the near future you would think that they cold have them everywhere, and pretty much eliminate speeding. Not sure they would want that though.

I think public pressure would keep them from being too prolific.

I seem to recall many people crediting the election of Mike Harris, as Premier of Ontario, for promising to remove the cameras from the 401.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

I think public pressure would keep them from being too prolific.

I seem to recall many people crediting the election of Mike Harris, as Premier of Ontario, for promising to remove the cameras from the 401.

and one of the Liberal promises when they ousted the NDP gov't in BC was to remove photo radar completly, which was a resounding success. the public simply doesn't want this crap, if cops want to earn their quota then chase down speeders the old fashioned way

[Hakan]

The last remaining wolf pack in the Canadian rockies was wiped out because of ass hole speeders in Banff National Park. Those people should have gone to jail.

But yeah Hemi, I understand your time is pretty frickin valuable. Jerk.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by Hakan

The last remaining wolf pack in the Canadian rockies was wiped out because of ass hole speeders in Banff National Park. Those people should have gone to jail.

But yeah Hemi, I understand your time is pretty frickin valuable. Jerk.

like i said, drivers will go the comfortable speed on that stretch, and it's not 90. and were those poor little wolves killed before or after the fence was put in?

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Hakan

The last remaining wolf pack in the Canadian rockies was wiped out because of ass hole speeders in Banff National Park. Those people should have gone to jail.

But yeah Hemi, I understand your time is pretty frickin valuable. Jerk.

Hmm, from what I've found, Banff National Park still has wolves. Bow Valley Park lost their last known female wolf breeder, but wolves do migrate, so who knows now.

In regards to the overpasses, data are inconclusive: http://www.pc.gc.ca/pn-np/ab/banff/d...routes3e_E.asp

In regards to speeding, I don't know how anyone can speed anymore during daylight hours, what with all the traffic, lights and construction.

[Kipper3256]

I live here in BC and Photo Radar is banned. The Liberals promised if they won (which they did) they would eliminate Photo Radar.

[MagicallyAdept]

Originally Posted by Kipper3256

I live here in BC and Photo Radar is banned. The Liberals promised if they won (which they did) they would eliminate Photo Radar.

Maybe moving there soon and that is good to know.

You guys have it fairly easy, there does not seem to be too many cameras around. We have one streth of road which has 2 speed cameras every mile over the 10 mile road. Everyone knows they are there meaning no one speeds (mostly traffic anyway) but sometimes it will flash you randomly and you get a fine despite the fact you was going 2mph (happens a lot with trucks). Most people cannot remember if they was speeding or not and sometimes it is a company vehicle so the fine gets paid without any real checking.

The government are using the cameras to make money. They tell us they only put the cameras in 'accident blackspots' but thats a lie too. There is no evidence that the cameras are saving lives and reducing accidents, they are just giving the officials more money to spend on comfy chairs and donuts.

If it is a clear night at 3am and you are 5mph over the limit on a clear 3 lane road is it really that bad? Some people lose their licence here for that!

But the illegal immigrants/delinquent children get away with murder - literally! There was a story of a 14 year old (cant drive til 17 here) who was 3 times over the drink drive limit who got caught in a stolen car - his punishment: 3 year ban... what a load of bollocks.

Where as i was 5mph over the limit late at night, sober as a judge on an empty road and i get 6 points on my licence. Wankers!

Many here are saying well don't speed etc etc and i know what you mean but if you are a good driver then going an extra 10 mph is pretty much the same. More accidents are caused by stupid drivers going below the limit.

Driving tests should be much harder and then a second test that proves you are capable of driving at higher speeds safely. If you pass that test you can go an extra 10mph in the fastlane which is reserved for drivers with that qualification only. Or something like that.

Magic