Fox News: We're All Going To Die!

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Daradon

DFF,

Jumping in here for a second. Just have to say that if you (or anyone else believes) that this report is not reputable, then I just ask, why is it argued so vehemently on a major station? I'm all for new and different ideas, but to report something AS TRUTH on a major station is another thing entirely. There is a undermining purpose here. This is NOT journalism, and the fact that it masquaerdes as such is what makes it dangerous.

That's the problem with ALL cable news networks. They report the news several hours a day and spend the rest of the time editorializing and trying to further the cause of the philosophy they support. CNN, MSNBC, FOX...doesn't matter. They all do it.

Bad stuff, I agree.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Azure

The US needs a man that can lead, someone who is inspiring to the people. Someone like JFK.

Or Bill Clinton


I agree, though. Leadership is desperately needed--non-cynical, progressive, reformist leadership. And not just in the White House, but in Congress too.

[White Doors]

John McCain?

[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally Posted by Azure

Whats wrong with joining the military, being sent to Iraq(usually you don't pick where you go) and being proud of serving your country?

Because those in Iraq are not serving their country? They are protecting a bunch of war profiteers, not working in the best interest of the American people. There is no honor in that action, only duty.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Lanny_MacDonald

Because those in Iraq are not serving their country? They are protecting a bunch of war profiteers, not working in the best interest of the American people. There is no honor in that action, only duty.

I don't think the fact that along with the rest of the American public, the men and women in uniform were misled by the chickenhawks above them in any way takes away from their personal honor. Let's place the blame where it belongs--on the leadership--and leave the people who are bravely risking their lives alone.

If anything, that makes Bush's crimes worse--that he has cynically manipulated the well-intentioned sense of honor of hundreds of thousands of basically good human beings--many of whom have died as a result.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

That's the problem with ALL cable news networks. They report the news several hours a day and spend the rest of the time editorializing and trying to further the cause of the philosophy they support. CNN, MSNBC, FOX...doesn't matter. They all do it.

Bad stuff, I agree.

I agree too, and yes it goes the left sometimes too (not trying to say it only goes right, or pro government, or to cause fear, as in this case) just in this instance it was SOOO out there, and so bent on causing undue fear, that attention should at least be brought to it.

Proposely casuing fear about other nations, or other cultures is one of the worst things a media outlet can do IMO. At least when it comes to making people afraid and selling news. For instance it would do the world and the public far less harm to air a special on global warming that might be a little alarmist and even untrue, then one about other peoples.

[RedMan12]

I can't even argue American politics anymore. I really hate the country's government and the American people's blind eye to what is really going on. Too many freedoms are slowly being taken away from the American people. One reason why I chose to move back to Canada is my dislike for how America is run.

[oldschoolcalgary]

unfortunately, based on what is happening today (Israel calling up more troops to expand the ground war-Syria saying it will increase their alert status).

Things could spiral out of control really, really quickly.

Hopefully, both sides will come to their senses....

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

unfortunately, based on what is happening today (Israel calling up more troops to expand the ground war-Syria saying it will increase their alert status).

Things could spiral out of control really, really quickly.

Hopefully, both sides will come to their senses....

True, I don't deny things are getting worse, and could get really bad, but it has NOTHING to do with making an assertion that Hezbollah (ever had, ever will have or currently has) WMD's.

Just seems that, that assertion is thrown around. And we all know how that got started, and what has happened because of that...

[Vulcan]

If Israel get in trouble, the US will have to step in. This N bomb threat is another example of demonizing the Arabs so that it will be palatable to the American public if the situation esculates.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Daradon

True, I don't deny things are getting worse, and could get really bad, but it has NOTHING to do with making an assertion that Hezbollah (ever had, ever will have or currently has) WMD's.

Just seems that, that assertion is thrown around. And we all know how that got started, and what has happened because of that...

first time i've heard any suggestion that Hezbollah having WMD...

[greasesuck]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

That's the problem with ALL cable news networks. They report the news several hours a day and spend the rest of the time editorializing and trying to further the cause of the philosophy they support. CNN, MSNBC, FOX...doesn't matter. They all do it.

Bad stuff, I agree.

Did you just figure that out?

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by greasesuck

Did you just figure that out?

No.

Shut up.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Lanny_MacDonald

Because those in Iraq are not serving their country? They are protecting a bunch of war profiteers, not working in the best interest of the American people. There is no honor in that action, only duty.

Really? And is it the soldiers job to decide where they will serve their country?

Or do they enlist intent on the reason to "serve their country?"

I'm pretty sure most of them believe they are serving their country, their military, regardless of what you think, where ever they are.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

first time i've heard any suggestion that Hezbollah having WMD...

That's what the story was about... (that they will in very short order, aquire some) You read it right?

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Daradon

That's what the story was about... (that they will in very short order, aquire some) You read it right?

oops...you're right. totally forgot what this thread was about...that being, nothing on Fox really surprises me anyways.

[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally Posted by Azure

Really? And is it the soldiers job to decide where they will serve their country?

Or do they enlist intent on the reason to "serve their country?"

I'm pretty sure most of them believe they are serving their country, their military, regardless of what you think, where ever they are.

Who decides? Usually someone with a brain in their head, but those are very short supply in Washington, so that explains the predicament the soldiers find themselves in. The military leaders told the pinheads in power this was the wrong fight to pick and was not needed for the defense of the United States. There was no threat, but they still went in for reasons yet unclear.

As to why people enlist, that is up to each individual, but I'm sure a part of the pat answer is going to be "to serve my country". Some how I don't believe that kids enlist with the idea of "protecting those who would profiteer from our military actions". As to what they think, they don't think. Most of them are grunts that have been told what to think. Most of them won't have an original idea of their own until they are discharged. Now save me the sob story that is sure to come about that being an insult to those serving, because what I said is true, and you damn well know it. These kids have been programmed to follow orders and do exactly what they are told. Freedom of thought frowned upon, so it is unlikely these kids are going to be sitting around, discussing philosophy and questioning the meaning of them being there at time in reality. Most of those soldiers are doing their best to survive.

And as I said, they are executing their duties, not serving their country. To server their country would mean to do something in its best interest. Doing what they are doing does not appear to be in their country's best interest. If you can't see the difference, you haven't had the first original thought since your discharge.

[mykalberta]

Originally Posted by greasesuck

I love it how only the americans paraniod by listening to their media.

34% of Canadins voted big red L because they were paranoid that the evil Canadian neocons were going to, get this:

Put armed soldiers on Canadian Streets
Soldiers with Guns
On Canadian Streets
We did not make this up.

Oh, maybe you forgot about it because the big red machine pulled it from their website. Please, if I ran my own web server I would link the video. Memories in this country are awful short.

EDIT: Thank you YouTube:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GOTtWtxIX...related&search=

MYK

[mykalberta]

Also, as per the rant of this thread, no Lezbolla will not attack the US with WMD, but lets not forget that Lezbolla attacked the US first - that was the time when they should have been exterminated from this Earth (one of the rare bad moves on Regan's part), not Bin Ladens group.

FNC is doing what 24 news channels do, they create histeria cause then people will watch instead of channel surf away when commercials arise. Its basic media sales 101, find a story, exploit the angle that you think most people with want to see.

Example CBC News knows their base in GTA doesnt care that Lezbolla attacked Isreal first or that the "hospitals" and "schools" that have been hit are Lezbolla ran - do you really think Lezbolla keeps their military and social programs separate. CBC shows what angle they think will sell, example dont show how Canada went way beyond the call and payed for people with cookie cutter citizen ship to be evacuated and likely now drain our welfair system. No they focused on that whieny pharmacist who said, they only had "warm water" on the ferry and they athey had to sleep "on the floor" (they were evacuated and flown to Canada on my tax dime btw). Bias and paranoya are in the eye of the beholder and the one who shows it to you.

MYK

[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally Posted by mykalberta

Also, as per the rant of this thread, no Lezbolla will not attack the US with WMD, but lets not forget that Lezbolla attacked the US first - that was the time when they should have been exterminated from this Earth (one of the rare bad moves on Regan's part), not Bin Ladens group.
MYK

Wow, you think that one up all by yourself? Clever.