Letter of Day in Today's Winnipeg Free Press

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by CalgaryDesi

You're taking the definition of city in a literal sense.

Most people, when talking about the ''city'' refer to the whole metro area.

Not really. If I want go to Airdrie, I dont say I am going to Calgary.

Also, this does not change the fact that you were trying to change a clearly defined word. But then, that is typical of Oiler fans in arguments, isnt it?

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by Snakeeye

Not really. If I want go to Airdrie, I dont say I am going to Calgary.

But when my parents (in Winnipeg) tell people where I live, they say Calgary and not McKenzie Towne. Or a better example- if I lived in Midnapore (which was its own town at one point) they wouldn't say they are going to Midnapore, they'd say Calgary.

Airdrie is a little different. You leave city limits, pass kilometres of farm land, then hit Airdrie. Whereas in Vancouver you really don't leave urban areas going from one city to another.

Originally Posted by Red

BTW, this 'going back home' is starting to become a trend now. Just yesterday I found out that my boss is packing it in and going to Regina. He only lived here for about 8 years. He's got enough to go back and semi retire.

Yep, I've looked into that too. After living in my house for 1.5 years I could buy a house in Winnipeg- in a neighbourhood like Acadia; with a pool and pay cash for it. The problem is my current job averages about $10 /hour less in Winnipeg than I make here, so my after house payment income would remain exactly the same. Funny thing, I was talking to somebody who kept telling me I should do it to be mortgage free. I tried to explain that taking home $3500 per month and then paying $1000 on a mortgage is the same as taking home $2500 per month and having no mortgage.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Snakeeye

Not really. If I want go to Airdrie, I dont say I am going to Calgary.

how many times do we have to explain? that's because Calgary is a uni-city, and is structured differently than most. Calgary hardly has any suburbs and the ones it does have are all considerable distance away and not connected like in most cities. When you go to Vancouver, do you say you are going to Richmond or North Vancouver? I highly doubt it. That would be like you being a visitor to the area, and telling people you are going to Signal Hill instead of Calgary.

[CalgaryDesi]

Originally Posted by Snakeeye

Not really. If I want go to Airdrie, I dont say I am going to Calgary.

The world doesn't revolve around you.

Airdrie is a poor example

If someone lives in Surrey, they tell everyone they're from Vancouver

[Resolute 14]

And if I intend to travel to Surrey, I say I am going to Surrey, not Vancouver. I go to St. Albert, not Edmonton. Getting the picture yet? Trust me, my family in GV dont call themselves Vancouverites. They are from Surrey and Burnaby, not Vancouver.

And Table, I am well aware of the unicity concept. That wasnt my point. My point was that EdmontonDesi is trying to change the definition of the word "city" to suit his argument.

[CalgaryDesi]

Originally Posted by Snakeeye

And if I intend to travel to Surrey, I say I am going to Surrey, not Vancouver. I go to St. Albert, not Edmonton. Getting the picture yet? Trust me, my family in GV dont call themselves Vancouverites. They are from Surrey and Burnaby, not Vancouver.

And Table, I am well aware of the unicity concept. That wasnt my point. My point was that EdmontonDesi is trying to change the definition of the word "city" to suit his argument.

MOST people I talk to, if they're travelling from Alberta to Surrey say they're heading to Vancouver. Usually, the only ones that refer to Surrey are the ones from the Greater Vancouver area themselves. I've talked to countless people at the U of A who have moved from areas like Abbotsford, Surrey, Richmond, and when I ask them where they are from, they tell me Vancouver. Vancouver's International airport is located in Richmond - kind of tells you something.

You are just trying to suit your argument of Calgary being the 3rd largest city in Canada by using ''city'' in a literal sense. I don't even have to explain further, just read Table's posts in this thread

[Resolute 14]

Actually, I was making no real argument, just stating a fact.

I'm well aware of Table's posts, EdmontonDesi. It was obvious from the start that I understood what he was talking about a hell of a lot more than you did.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by ken0042

But when my parents (in Winnipeg) tell people where I live, they say Calgary and not McKenzie Towne. Or a better example- if I lived in Midnapore (which was its own town at one point) they wouldn't say they are going to Midnapore, they'd say Calgary.

Hint: Midnapore and McKenzie Towne are communities inside Calgary's city limits. The are not separate cities and towns with their own city limits, like Airdire or Okotoks.

There is absolutely no reason on Earth for anyone living outside of Calgary to say they are going to Midnapore instead of saying the are going to Calgary; however, if someone was going to Okotoks and said they were going to Calgary, they'd be wrong, since Okotoks is it's very own entity with it's own government and it's own borders. It IS part of Metropolitan Calgary, but it is NOT part of Calgary.

Metro = Used for pumping up stats.
City = Used for everything else.

It's not my problem if people in Vancouver have confused the two concepts and now refer to Metro Van as just simply Van. Good thing that normal people like me can still tell the difference and can easily dismiss the measly little 600,000 population of the City of Vancouver.

You are just trying to suit your argument of Calgary being the 3rd largest city in Canada by using ''city'' in a literal sense.

Ah yes. How dare someone use the word "apple" when talking about an apple. They should be ashamed of themselves for such a blatant misuse of the English language.

Tip: English = English, City = City, Metropolitan = Metropolitan.
Nobody but yourself is responsible for your interpretation of the English language.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Hint: Midnapore and McKenzie Towne are communities inside Calgary's city limits. The are not separate cities and towns with their own city limits, like Airdire or Okotoks.[/COLOR]

Yes, but at one point Midnapore was a town independant from Calgary. So when Calgary's city limits expanded, we just added Midnapore into the city of Calgary. If Midnapore had not been annexed, when places like McKenzie Towne were built they would have been built as independant towns because they would have been outside of the city of Calgary. So don't get all high and mighty on me when you don't understand the situation.

In cases like Calgary, Edmonton, and Winnipeg- yes the term Metro is used to pump up stats. But for the sake of Vancouver, Metro is how the city is laid out.

Which is why some of us have conceeded that "technically" you are correct in saying that Vancouver is technically smaller than Calgary. But if that's the case, you may as well start making a case for Calgary to be one of the biggest cities in North America, because once again "technically" we are bigger than Seattle and San Francisco, just to name 2 off the top of my head.

[GreenTeaFrapp]

Originally Posted by Snakeeye

And if I intend to travel to Surrey, I say I am going to Surrey, not Vancouver. I go to St. Albert, not Edmonton. Getting the picture yet? Trust me, my family in GV dont call themselves Vancouverites. They are from Surrey and Burnaby, not Vancouver.

And if you are flying into the airports in Richmond or Mississauga, you don't say you're flying into those cities. You say you're flying to Vancouver or Toronto.

[soulchoice]

Originally Posted by ken0042

Yes, but at one point Midnapore was a town independant from Calgary. So when Calgary's city limits expanded, we just added Midnapore into the city of Calgary. If Midnapore had not been annexed, when places like McKenzie Towne were built they would have been built as independant towns because they would have been outside of the city of Calgary. So don't get all high and mighty on me when you don't understand the situation.

In cases like Calgary, Edmonton, and Winnipeg- yes the term Metro is used to pump up stats. But for the sake of Vancouver, Metro is how the city is laid out.

Which is why some of us have conceeded that "technically" you are correct in saying that Vancouver is technically smaller than Calgary. But if that's the case, you may as well start making a case for Calgary to be one of the biggest cities in North America, because once again "technically" we are bigger than Seattle and San Francisco, just to name 2 off the top of my head.

Very well said, might as well add New Orleans, Atlanta, St Louis and Miami to the list as well. However the only problem is that "technical" city population stats mean absolutely nothing. Metro stats are definitely not used to inflate population statistics, but are rather a true representation of any cities numbers. Any other thought and attempt to make a claim that no one uses metro stats is purely being a homer, trying to make Calgary more than what it is.

[Rejean31]

Originally Posted by CalgaryDesi

Vancouver's International airport is located in Richmond - kind of tells you something.

And Edmonton's International Airport is in Leduc. What's your point?

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Rejean31

And Edmonton's International Airport is in Leduc. What's your point?

his point is that guaging the size of the city by the CMA, not just city proper, is a much more realistic and "true" yardstick.

[V]

Originally Posted by CalgaryDesi

The world doesn't revolve around you.

Airdrie is a poor example

If someone lives in Surrey, they tell everyone they're from Vancouver

I don't think that's really true at all. I know a lot of people that live in Surrey, and they'll tell me that they live in Surrey. Of course, I just think Surrey's a bad example, as it really is a city all on it's own. I think once you pass over the Port Mann bridge you aren't in Vancouver anymore. That at least seems to me how it works over there.

Myself, I'm from St. Albert, but when I go back I don't tell people I'm going to St. Albert, but that I'm going to Edmonton. I would imagine I would say the same thing if I were going to Sherwood Park or Stony Plain.

[Yup]

Sorry

[Hanni]

Anyone know if a 6 year thread bump is some kind of record?

[pylon]

Originally Posted by Hanni

Anyone know if a 6 year thread bump is some kind of record?

Yup

[Hack&Lube]

A 7 year old thread is going to get bumped any minute now...

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by Yup

I'm the person who wrote to the editor about not moving to Calgary. Yes I'm the dreaded Paula. The reason why I wrote to the editor was because I had seen a report on the news how some retailers were going to Winnipeg to recruit and hire young people to work in their stores. Since I've worked retail to put myself through school, I know it doesn't pay that well unless you get into management. I had written this piece after I had heard of a family moving here and were struggling financially because the cost of living in Winnipeg at the time was much less. The father was offered a big raise to move here, but when they got here they realized it wasn't going to improve their quality of life. Many stories like this were on the news at the time.

I care about people and I was trying to be persuasive. Calgary is a beautiful city, but it isn't the most affordable and you need to be making a decent amount of money to live here. A fact of life. At the time, Winnipeg wasn't as expensive (in regards to homes). That was my point. Sorry if I offended some people. I did mention about the insurance because many of the people in the news clip were young men. As for the comment about education, since Ralph cut funding and changed the funding formula, larger boards in cities have struggled to build schools in new areas. All the money goes right to the province. I wish education taxes would go back to municiple governments like they are in other provinces because cities know what they need to sustain themselves. My family lives in a new area and trying to get my daughter to school is often difficult.

Sorry this response is six years late.

Many smiles,
Paula

Thanks for visiting us. I hope that your life here (if you are still here) has improved since you wrote your letter.

[Ace]

What a weird bump...Just going to comment on how ther person obviously knows nothing about Alberta since there are no health care premiums here...

Then I read 2006...Crazy