U.N.: Israeli airstrike hits U.N. observer post

[Looger]

not every jew, everywhere, is on the same page, just like every christian, muslim, german, whatever.

the big names in the zionist movement in switzerland had huge deals with the nazis, it is fact.

EDIT: ben gurion and the stern gang dressed as arabs when they blew stuff up and machine-guned unarmed civilians. this is in the public record. and the jewish terrorists that blew up the king david hotel were no exceptions - they were dressed in shaals and sheets.

i'm done debating this.

[Bleeding Red]

Originally Posted by Barnes

Fisrt of all this is the stupidest post I have ever read.

Second I am from Montreal originally and comparing it to Quebec's political situation is only embarassing yourself.

Third, I thought the Muslim guy was the owner and operator of the cafe, now he's just a waiter?

Forth, if this is the flag that represents a multi-faith nation then slap my ass and call me Gloria.

Bend over Gloria

[Calgaryborn]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=51181

Above is a link to an article by Ted Byfield. I post it because the fact that there is a strong minority christian presence in Lebanon was brought up. According to Byfield these Christian Lebanese are in favour of Israel's conduct.

Apparently these Lebanese don't want to see Hezbolah maintain control of the region. Perhaps they see a short war and great hardship as faviourable to continual persecution and slow death.

[Hakan]

I knew it was only a matter of time before some article by Ted Byfield or the Western Standard was quoted.

*shudder*

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by Bleeding Red

Bend over Gloria

:baby:

[Calgaryborn]

According to the World Fact Book(on line) this is the break down of the religious groups in Lebanon:

Muslim 59.7% (Shi'a, Sunni, Druze, Isma'ilite, Alawite or Nusayri), Christian 39% (Maronite Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Melkite Catholic, Armenian Orthodox, Syrian Catholic, Armenian Catholic, Syrian Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Chaldean, Assyrian, Copt, Protestant), other 1.3%
note: 17 religious sects recognized


Who do you suppose 39% of the population is rooting for and who is reporting that story?

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Looger

not every jew, everywhere, is on the same page, just like every christian, muslim, german, whatever.

the big names in the zionist movement in switzerland had huge deals with the nazis, it is fact.

EDIT: ben gurion and the stern gang dressed as arabs when they blew stuff up and machine-guned unarmed civilians. this is in the public record. and the jewish terrorists that blew up the king david hotel were no exceptions - they were dressed in shaals and sheets.

i'm done debating this.

Why do you say things like "it is fact" and "this is in the public record" and then follow it by not proving it is fact.

[peter12]

Forth, if this is the flag that represents a multi-faith nation then slap my ass and call me Gloria.

Just now, I typed in mosque + Israel into google. I got a ton of returns on my query.

[Calgaryborn]

Jewish 76.5%, Muslim 15.9%, Arab Christians 1.7%, other Christian 0.4%, Druze 1.6%, unspecified 3.9% (2003)

Above is a breakdown of religions in Israel from the World Fact Book.

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Jewish 76.5%, Muslim 15.9%, Arab Christians 1.7%, other Christian 0.4%, Druze 1.6%, unspecified 3.9% (2003)

Above is a breakdown of religions in Israel from the World Fact Book.

I wonder what those figures would have looked like in 1850.

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

I wonder what those figures would have looked like in 1850.

I don't know. I suppose the same question could be asked concerning Canada and our native populations.

How about comparing that to the amount of Jews that were living in the Arab countries surrounding present day Israel and were forced out or killed since 1850 ?

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

I don't know. I suppose the same question could be asked concerning Canada and our native populations.

Sure... but we generally acknoweldege these days that we stole/conquered pretty much the entire continent... don't we? Its not like the reason North Americans are now white was a 'demographic shift'... we killed most of the natives or forced them into impossible situations.

How about comparing that to the amount of Jews that were living in the Arab countries surrounding present day Israel and were forced out or killed since 1850 ?

Sounds good to me.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Jewish 76.5%, Muslim 15.9%, Arab Christians 1.7%, other Christian 0.4%, Druze 1.6%, unspecified 3.9% (2003)

Above is a breakdown of religions in Israel from the World Fact Book.

But before the Zionism trend pre-1900s, there were actually hardly any Jews living in Israel. Only about 10,000 I believe. I'll look up the numbers later.

Edit:

http://i-cias.com/e.o/israel_5.htm

Until 1948-51, Jews were a minority in what is now called Israel.

In a scant 100 years, they went from 12,000 to over 1 million. They only comprised of 12-30% of the population until the end of WWII.

I believe Israel has a right to exist because we can't go back in time, but it is not hard to see why the Arabs of the region have resisted their presence.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

According to the World Fact Book(on line) this is the break down of the religious groups in Lebanon:

Muslim 59.7% (Shi'a, Sunni, Druze, Isma'ilite, Alawite or Nusayri), Christian 39% (Maronite Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Melkite Catholic, Armenian Orthodox, Syrian Catholic, Armenian Catholic, Syrian Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Chaldean, Assyrian, Copt, Protestant), other 1.3%
note: 17 religious sects recognized


Who do you suppose 39% of the population is rooting for and who is reporting that story?

Not Israel, that is for sure. Israeli forces under the command of Ariel Sharon (before he was their elected leader) massacred Christians in Lebanon. Lebanon's President is also a Christian, as a matter of fact.

It's also worth noting that while Druze consider themselves Muslims, most other Muslims do not consider Druze to be Muslims.

[Finding Nemo]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Not Israel, that is for sure. Israeli forces under the command of Ariel Sharon (before he was their elected leader) massacred Christians in Lebanon. Lebanon's President is also a Christian, as a matter of fact.

It's also worth noting that while Druze consider themselves Muslims, most other Muslims do not consider Druze to be Muslims.

The Sabra and Shatila Refugee Camp Tragedy to which you refer contained Palestinian Muslims. Ariel Sharon allowed Christian militias into the camps, and the militias proceeded to kill Palestinian Muslims. The Lebanese Christian Militias worked with the Israeli Army to combat radical Islamic forces in South Lebanon until the Israeli withdrawal in 2000.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Finding Nemo

The Sabra and Shatila Refugee Camp Tragedy to which you refer contained Palestinian Muslims. Ariel Sharon allowed Christian militias into the camps, and the militias proceeded to kill Palestinian Muslims. The Lebanese Christian Militias worked with the Israeli Army to combat radical Islamic forces in South Lebanon until the Israeli withdrawal in 2000.

Big whoops.

I was actually thinking of the Damour massacre that happened in 1976.

For some reason I had the 2 turned around. Thanks for pointing that out.

[Azure]

Wednesday, July 26, 2006
Canadian killed from UN force complained his position shielding Hizbullah

Dr. Aaron Lerner Date: 26 July 2006

"...the tragic loss of a soldier yesterday who I happen to know and I think
probably is from my Regiment. We've received e-mails from him a few days ago
and he described the fact that he was taking within - in one case - three
meters of his position "for tactical necessity - not being targeted". Now
that's veiled speech in the military and what he was telling us was
Hizbullah fighters were all over his position and the IDF were targeting them and that's a favorite trick by people who don't have
representation in the UN. They use the UN as shields knowing that they
can't be punished for it."

Retired Canadian Major General Lewis MacKenzie interviewed on CBC Toronto
radio 26 July 2006
For recording:

http://cbc.ca/metromorning/media/20060726LMCJUL26.ram

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Azure

http://cbc.ca/metromorning/media/20060726LMCJUL26.ram

Sounds reasonable. Good to see you're not ignoring the CBC.

[Looger]

Originally Posted by peter12

Why do you say things like "it is fact" and "this is in the public record" and then follow it by not proving it is fact.

read some books on the subject.

ralph shoenman's "the hidden history of zionism"

the AFOREMENTIONED "rise and fall fo the third reich"

oh nevermind. i mention books that are virtually textbooks and taught in universities, and you say i don't mention sources. fine. whatever. you're obviously not listening.

just because something's not forced down our gullets on tv every day doesn't mean it didn't happen. there is a lot in the historical record that b'nai bri'th and ADL really don't want out there - and for good reason.

the debate on this thread is tilting towards looking at black-and-white christians and jews VERSUS muslims, please before anyone buys that BULL****, do some research.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Looger

ralph shoenman

There's a balanced source well respected in academia.. not a CT at all!