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Old 09-27-2004, 09:47 AM   #41
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As a Bomber fan and a Stamps season ticket holder; I like this trade. Winnipeg is getting what it need most; help this season. Calgary's season is pretty much done, but they have Jones for a few more seasons after.

I might even go out and buy myself a Stamps jersey, and throw #17 on it.
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Old 09-27-2004, 10:57 AM   #42
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Brutal Trade the defence gets weaker and we still don't have a QB. Matt has had one too many concussions me thinks!! I think we should start a fund raiser and buy the stamps to save this sorry excuse for a team.
Again. What other QB would you like to have seen the Stamps get?

Jones is a former league outstanding player and up until this year was one of the premier QBs in the league. I have no doubt he can rebound to his former performance level.
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Old 09-27-2004, 11:11 AM   #43
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Regimbald is a FA next year too,maybe we will resign him. :P
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Old 09-27-2004, 11:54 AM   #44
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I like this trade. Hopefully a change of scenery will be good for Jones, however we still don't have any good receivers. Is Jones still hurt or can he start next game for Calgary.

Otherwise Souza should get the call.
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Old 09-27-2004, 11:57 AM   #45
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There are a lot of people that just can't be pleased eh? Would you have liked it better if the Stamps didn't make any trade at all? That way Flemming and Regimbold would both walk at the end of the year and sign with someone else and we would get dick in exchange. We got something for 2 people that would probably not be here next year and we have an excellent QB for next year when he is healthy. He will be a lot better teacher for the young guys!!!! Would you have rather had them hold onto Crandell and have him pass on his trade to our young learning QB's? Wait till next year and see what you think of the trade. Lysak will be missed but our D is awesome and there will be someone to fill in for him next year. We as Stamps fans should concentrate on getting our O line beefed up now rather then complaining that we didn't win the trade. I think that we won IMO, lets just see who Joe signs with next year. I will put money on it that he is wearing orange next year!!! Good trade. GO STAMPS GO.
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Old 09-27-2004, 12:41 PM   #46
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There are a lot of people that just can't be pleased eh? Would you have liked it better if the Stamps didn't make any trade at all? That way Flemming and Regimbold would both walk at the end of the year and sign with someone else and we would get dick in exchange. We got something for 2 people that would probably not be here next year and we have an excellent QB for next year when he is healthy. He will be a lot better teacher for the young guys!!!! Would you have rather had them hold onto Crandell and have him pass on his trade to our young learning QB's? Wait till next year and see what you think of the trade. Lysak will be missed but our D is awesome and there will be someone to fill in for him next year. We as Stamps fans should concentrate on getting our O line beefed up now rather then complaining that we didn't win the trade. I think that we won IMO, lets just see who Joe signs with next year. I will put money on it that he is wearing orange next year!!! Good trade. GO STAMPS GO.
Exactly.

What I find hilarious is the same people who hate this trade would not have been happy unless Dunigan brought in a 26yr old Warren Moon.

Yet if he doesn't trade those players, and we lose them for nothing, guess who would be the first people to criticize Dunigan for doing nothing and getting nothing for them??

Dunigan had a choice for Fleming - K. Jones or some low draft picks from BC... real tough decision to make there.
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Old 09-27-2004, 01:07 PM   #47
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Trade on hold pending physicals:

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Football/CFL/Win.../27/645938.html
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Old 09-27-2004, 01:10 PM   #48
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Originally posted by JiriHrdina+Sep 27 2004, 10:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JiriHrdina @ Sep 27 2004, 10:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-JohnnyO@Sep 27 2004, 08:41 AM
Brutal Trade the defence gets weaker and we still don't have a QB. Matt has had one too many concussions me thinks!! I think we should start a fund raiser and buy the stamps to save this sorry excuse for a team.
Again. What other QB would you like to have seen the Stamps get?

Jones is a former league outstanding player and up until this year was one of the premier QBs in the league. I have no doubt he can rebound to his former performance level. [/b][/quote]
What has Jones done since 2001?

I have no idea who they should get. But what they gave up was a lot, Plus they gave up 2 good Canadians in Lysack and Reg.
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Old 09-27-2004, 01:36 PM   #49
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Its funny cause we lost the only thing that Stamps had going for themselves, and that was defence. Flemming was one of Calgary's best and now we got an injured QB.

Ugghh.. its going to be a long last 4 games.
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Originally posted by JohnnyO+Sep 27 2004, 01:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JohnnyO @ Sep 27 2004, 01:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Brutal Trade the defence gets weaker and we still don't have a QB. Matt has had one too many concussions me thinks!! I think we should start a fund raiser and buy the stamps to save this sorry excuse for a team.

Again. What other QB would you like to have seen the Stamps get?

Jones is a former league outstanding player and up until this year was one of the premier QBs in the league. I have no doubt he can rebound to his former performance level.
What has Jones done since 2001?

I have no idea who they should get. But what they gave up was a lot, Plus they gave up 2 good Canadians in Lysack and Reg. [/b][/quote]
Well in 2002 he actually had an even better year statiscally putting up 5300 yard passing and 46 TD passes. So that's not too bad eh?

I realize he's had a rough year this year but it's primarily been due to injury.

It drives me up the wall. All year we've heard fans complain that we need a QB, and then Dunnigan goes and gets one and people are upset he gave up something to get it? Well, its not like he was going to call up another GM and say "hey man...I'm really in a bind here, can you send me one of your QBs. I really would rather not have to trade anything of value back to you. How does that sound?"

We gave up to pending UFAs that were not going to resign here and a young player. Even trade.
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Old 09-27-2004, 01:56 PM   #51
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Its funny cause we lost the only thing that Stamps had going for themselves, and that was defence. Flemming was one of Calgary's best and now we got an injured QB.

Ugghh.. its going to be a long last 4 games.
Sure but who cares about these last four games. This season is done anyways. The point is that this team is better set up for next season to have some success. Our defense is strong enough (particularly with Maxie coming back) to lose fleming.
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Old 09-27-2004, 02:20 PM   #52
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It would be great if Dunigan could re-sign Flemming in the summer (probably won't happen, but he likes playing in Calgary - maybe if we had new ownership?).
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Old 09-27-2004, 02:33 PM   #53
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I don't like this trade for one reason and one reason only.

I didn't want the Stamps to trade away Lysack. He's already a good player and great contributor and is only going to get better.

I see this trade as Jordan Leopold for Chris Osgood (an old goalie who was at the top of the game at one point... comparable to Jones - an old QB who was at the top of the game at one point). This isn't a great comparison, as I think Jones is a better QB than Osgood a goalie, but I couldn't think of anyone else. Byron Dafoe maybe?
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Old 09-27-2004, 09:22 PM   #54
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I like the trade. It's not perfect, but something had to be done. I think with a fresh start next season Jones may return to being a great Q.B. especially if Dunnigan is still around to work with him.
I still believe the Stamps were two players short of being a really good team. Now with Jones and Reynolds they may be on thier way. I just hope next season they can start dishing out a bit of payback on the teams that ran up scores against them while they were down.
Jones will also help in getting people to re-new and/or buy season tickets for next year IMO.
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Old 09-28-2004, 09:41 AM   #55
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The other thing that Khari is good for; being visible in the community. In Winnipeg he lived there year round and was always available for autograph session fund raisers. Watching Global last night he looked happy to be in Calgary. I think he'll do well here.
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Old 10-06-2004, 02:32 PM   #56
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Wednesday, Oct. 6, 2004 - Globe & Mail


Which team did better in Sunday's CFL blockbuster trade?


Winnipeg
143 votes (33 %)

Calgary
207 votes (48 %)

It's even
77 votes (18 %)


Total Votes: 427
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