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CaramonLS · 06-01-2006, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RatherDashing

Another very rare event is a hitter winning the triple crown. To do this, a player needs to lead the league (MLB or just AL/NL?) in homeruns, RBI's, and batting average.

Just the individual league (NL or AL).

Mr. Pujols has a very good shot to do it this year.

CaramonLS · 06-01-2006, 09:29 PM

Oh, and anyone who is into baseball might want to check out this site:

It is called "the dugout", and it is a made up major league chatroom and is usually updated every day or so. I laugh my ass off reading some of the stuff (you probably have to get baseball to really find it funny).

JiriHrdina · 06-01-2006, 09:29 PM

One of my favourite ultimate baseball rareities was the night in the 1990 season when two no-hitters were thrown on the same day:

Dave Stewart against the Jays
Fernando against St. Louis

The odds of that happening are just so extreme.

albertGQ · 06-01-2006, 09:38 PM

I remember another night when Pedro Martinez pitched for the Expos. He had a perfect game after nine innings. Only problem is that the game was tied. So Pedor pitches the tenth inning as well. Not only did a base hit ruin his perfect game, but obviously his no hitter as well.

I can't really remember, but I still think he ended up with the shutout at least

Jiggy_12 · 06-01-2006, 11:20 PM

ESPN sportswriter (In my opinion, the best) Jayson Stark has a regular useless baseball info column. It's a must read for any fanatic.

Here is the latest installment.

Link

Resolute 14 · 06-02-2006, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

One of my favourite ultimate baseball rareities was the night in the 1990 season when two no-hitters were thrown on the same day:

Dave Stewart against the Jays
Fernando against St. Louis

The odds of that happening are just so extreme.

1990 was a freakish year for no-hitters. Wasnt there something like a dozen that year?

And Jayson Stark rules, if for no other reason than the bizarre, useless, "why the hell did you bother to look that up?" stats he often pulls out.

jam26 · 06-02-2006, 10:46 AM

While we're on the subject...why does MLB conduct their draft during the season?

AaronSJ · 06-02-2006, 11:13 AM

NCAA baseball and most U.S. High School leagues end in May, so the draft is conducted after the season ends in early June. Many of the drafted players are subsequently signed and sent to rookie leagues during the summer. If the draft was held during the off-season, these players would end up missing out on an entire season of professional ball.

habernac · 06-02-2006, 01:47 PM

I've gotta be one of the luckiest guys on the planet. The second live MLB game I ever saw was a no hitter. Kevin Millwood pitching for the Phillies in the old Veterans Stadium 3 years ago. What a great game!

BaronInEdmonton · 06-02-2006, 04:25 PM

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albertGQ[/left]]I remember another night when Pedro Martinez pitched for the Expos. He had a perfect game after nine innings. Only problem is that the game was tied. So

Pedor

pitches the tenth inning as well. Not only did a base hit ruin his perfect game, but obviously his no hitter as well.

I can't really remember, but I still think he ended up with the shutout at least

You are thinking of a pitcher named Mike(?) Gardiner. He pitched a no hitter through 9 but gave up an infield hit in the 10th and took the loss. It is not considered a no hitter by the MLB. Two days later Dennis Martinez pitched a perfect game and won 2-0.

Edit: After some searching Pedro did lose a perfect game after nine innings. June 3, 95 versus San Diego

looooob · 06-02-2006, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BaronInEdmonton

You are thinking of a pitcher named Mike(?) Gardiner. He pitched a no hitter through 9 but gave up an infield hit in the 10th and took the loss. It is not considered a no hitter by the MLB. Two days later Dennis Martinez pitched a perfect game and won 2-0.

Edit: After some searching Pedro did lose a perfect game after nine innings. June 3, 95 versus San Diego

I remember both the Gardner game and the Pedro game...brutal

perfect game factoids:
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/pitching/piperf.shtml

23 official or unofficial perfect games in MLB history and Expos pitchers threw 3 of them El Presidente (official), Pedro (unofficial) and David Palmer of all people ( 5innings). David Cone also threw one against the Expos
damn I miss the expos

there's a book about the Expos I'm supposed to get for my birthday, but I have to order it myself...anyone read it? "remembering the Expos" or some such thing

and Jiri, yes I used to score alot of games...my cousin taught me how, and we used to go to Olympic stadium alot and score the games. really fond memories

AaronSJ · 06-02-2006, 05:16 PM

I was at the Jays game on Wednesday night and sat by a 80+ year old woman who was meticulously scoring the game, right down to the balls and strikes -- quite impressive.

the-rasta-masta · 06-02-2006, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CaramonLS

I think hitting for the cycle is more common than a no hitter.

Also, 4Ks in an inning is also extremely rare, I think it has happened 14 times over the last 10 years or something similar.

It is pretty rare.

How do you manage to get 4Ks in one inning if there are only three outs?

JiriHrdina · 06-02-2006, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

How do you manage to get 4Ks in one inning if there are only three outs?

On one of the strikeouts there is a passed ball or wild pitch that the batter strikes out on. In this event the runner can run down to 1st base and if he's not thrown out he is safe. It is recorded as a K still though.

STeeLy · 06-02-2006, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

On one of the strikeouts there is a passed ball or wild pitch that the batter strikes out on. In this event the runner can run down to 1st base and if he's not thrown out he is safe. It is recorded as a K still though.

Yes, if he swings and misses and gets a third strike, but the ball decides to bounce of the catcher or go wide or something and it will take the catcher a long time to get and throw to first, he can go take a base if he wanted to.

Resolute 14 · 06-02-2006, 11:17 PM

Kelly Wunch once recorded five strikeouts in one inning in the minors via that route.

The Calgary Cannons final run was scored as the result of a dropped third strike and an erroneous throw past first base. It was the winning run in the bottom of the 9th of a 14-13 game against Edmonton.

Sylvanfan · 06-03-2006, 05:18 PM

Well remember that third strike in last years Angels vs. Whitesox game two. Catcher doesn't tag the guy, and than he's ruled safe. If the Angels win that game they're up 2-0 going home. That play very well could have won the series for the Sox.

albertGQ · 06-07-2006, 02:51 PM

So no one on this board can explain Slugging Percentage and how it is calculated???

Resolute 14 · 06-07-2006, 04:54 PM

Oops. didnt see the question.

Slugging percentage is Total Bases / At Bats.

A HR is worth 4 bases, a triple 3, a double 2, a single 1.

So, the formula is: [(HR*3) + (3B*2) + 2B + H] / AB

It is basically a measure of power, as triples and home runs are worth considerably more than singles and doubles.

The theoretical maximum SLG% is 4.000.

albertGQ · 06-08-2006, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Snakeeye

Oops. didnt see the question.

Slugging percentage is Total Bases / At Bats.

A HR is worth 4 bases, a triple 3, a double 2, a single 1.

So, the formula is: [(HR*3) + (3B*2) + 2B + H] / AB

It is basically a measure of power, as triples and home runs are worth considerably more than singles and doubles.

The theoretical maximum SLG% is 4.000.

Thanks Snakeeye. I kinda figured it was something like that. I just wanted confirmation. I am a total bandwagon Jays fan and since they've been playing real well lately, I've watched alot of their games recently.

The more baseball I know, the more I enjoy the games.

Great thread guys!!