Yes folks...the conspiracy theorists have turned on each other!!!!

[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally Posted by White Doors

Yes, we hear Bush villifying a race because he thinks Caucasians are a superior breed. Yep, I've heard that one.

Well, since you want to make over the top statements to try and cloud the facts, lets look at them one by one and see the correlation to what you say and how its really played out.

Not sure whether he thinks caucasians are superior, but he has been more than willing to use immigrants and illegals to his political benefit. After all, they are stealing jobs from Americans... who wouldn't do the work in the first place (it is beneath them). If you missed it, it got half a million Mexian immigrants to march in the streets of Los Angeles. It also spurned a day of boycott amongst the "immigrant work force".

Bush is also carrying out genocide.

No, and no one said he was. He is killing the middle class, but he's doing it metaphorically with his policies and laws. The African American community might pose an argument that he is responsible for mass murder with his inept handling of the Katrina situation. I think Bush is a bumbling idiot surrounded by warmongering fools with delusions of grandeur who might be willing to stoop to that level, but I don't think Bush is that callous an individual.

Bush also has a secret police.

Yes, he does. It's called the Department of Homeland Security, the NSA and the FBI. The creation of DHS and the passing into law of the Patriot Act has given the Bush administration an incredibly powerful police force caple of doing things that have never been done in American history. Add in the administrations complete disregard for law, and you have the potential for the most powerful dictatorship in the world.

Bush terrorizes his own country to keep him in power...

Yes, he does. The invocation of 9/11 and the imagery of mushroom clouds and death that come from the administration is meant to terrorize the people. During the election there was a series of terror alert elevations, ALL of them phoney and manufactured. There has not been an elevation in status since April of 2004 (IIRC), and that one was never released to the public. In fact, elevations are never made public. When these alerts come out, there are nothing but BS meant to scare the public into falling into line.

Bush has also suspended elections.

Bush had the first election handed to him by the conservative supreme court. The 2004 election had quite a few irregularities, many connected to the Bush campaign.

Bush has murdedered his political opponets.

Politically speaking, Karl Rove does the work for him. There is reason why no one will stand up and be accounted for, no one wants to get in Rove's cross hairs. The guy has the ability to damage/end political careers by the dirt he floats in the media. Rove is a genius at manipulation of the electoral process, and no one is willing to risk their cushy position at the political trough to put a stop to the illigal actions of the Bush administration. If the Democrats carry one of the houses this fall, count on Bush being impeached. If Rove gets indicted, and disappears from the administration, it may happen anyways. At that point no one will be afraid of Bush and the non-neo-con Republicans will turn on the administration.

Bush has written a book outlining his strategy of racial purification and conquest.

Not Bush alone, but the Project for the New American Century certainly has. The fruit loops published their Mein Kampf back in the 90's and have followed it to a "T". All the arm waiving in the world isn't going to change that.

Bush hates the world and will try to destroy it.

Yes and no. First, Bush knows nothing of the world. He's an idiot who, prior to coming to office, couldn't pick out Afghanistan on a map (and that is the truth, proven when he was Govenor of Texas and the Taliban came through the state). Bush really didn't have a clue on foreign policy, or anything else for that matter, so he had his daddy and brither tell him who to pick for his administration. They don't hate the world, they just want to run it and have it a homogenized place where everyone speaks and thinks American.

Bush does have a strong religious belief and part of that belief is the rapture. He firmly believes that God has chosen him and that God is speaking through him. A man who has the belief structure that says the end of the world is a good thing, and will lead to his people's salvation for eternity, is a very scary proposition. He thinks he's in a win-win no matter what happens. That's why he's more than willing to trot out the nookylur option like its nothing more than an ingredient in mom's chocolate cake recipe. The idea of ending it all doesn't register with him as a bad thing.

ANYONE who compares Bush with Hitler has a serious shortcomings on their historical knowledge. Either that, or they are so far left that it is clouding them to the truth. To even speak of Bush and Hitler in the same breath shows how truly far gone you are. It also is a huge insult to Hitler's victims and to the generation hat sacrificed themselves to remove him from power.

Nice arm waiving. If this is the "proof" you were going to trot out, it hasn't been convincing. Bush is the most hated leader in the world, and with good reason. His complete disregard for law and the world community is beyond belief. To find someone in recent memory who has held the rest of the world in such contempt and to execute HIS will whenever he seems fit, you have to go back to pre-WWII Germany and developing despot by the name of Adolf Hitler. No, Bush has not yet hit those same lows as Hitler did during WWII, but based on Bush's record to date, anything is possible.

[White Doors]

Originally Posted by Lanny_MacDonald

Well, since you want to make over the top statements to try and cloud the facts, lets look at them one by one and see the correlation to what you say and how its really played out.

Not sure whether he thinks caucasians are superior, but he has been more than willing to use immigrants and illegals to his political benefit. After all, they are stealing jobs from Americans... who wouldn't do the work in the first place (it is beneath them). If you missed it, it got half a million Mexian immigrants to march in the streets of Los Angeles. It also spurned a day of boycott amongst the "immigrant work force".

One of his biggest voting blocks are hispanic Lanny. You're a whitey and you hate him - doesn't that tell you anything?

No, and no one said he was. He is killing the middle class, but he's doing it metaphorically with his policies and laws. The African American community might pose an argument that he is responsible for mass murder with his inept handling of the Katrina situation. I think Bush is a bumbling idiot surrounded by warmongering fools with delusions of grandeur who might be willing to stoop to that level, but I don't think Bush is that callous an individual.

No - I don't think he's evil either. And the middle class in America is doing far better now than they were under Clinton. Not to mention the poor people - no one left behind legislation. Bush is not as far 'right' as most people think.

Yes, he does. It's called the Department of Homeland Security, the NSA and the FBI. The creation of DHS and the passing into law of the Patriot Act has given the Bush administration an incredibly powerful police force caple of doing things that have never been done in American history. Add in the administrations complete disregard for law, and you have the potential for the most powerful dictatorship in the world.

Disregard for law? Now what is that? Potential and reality are two different things. When brownshirts come to your home and lock you up or kill you for the drivel you post here, I will be the first one to defend you. But in reality we are no where near that. not even close.

Yes, he does. The invocation of 9/11 and the imagery of mushroom clouds and death that come from the administration is meant to terrorize the people. During the election there was a series of terror alert elevations, ALL of them phoney and manufactured. There has not been an elevation in status since April of 2004 (IIRC), and that one was never released to the public. In fact, elevations are never made public. When these alerts come out, there are nothing but BS meant to scare the public into falling into line.

So they arean't made public or they are Lanny? you can't have it both ways.. Oh wait a minute, YOU can as you are a conspiracy theorist. You HAVE to have it both ways in order for it to make 'sense'.. sorry I forgot.

Bush had the first election handed to him by the conservative supreme court. The 2004 election had quite a few irregularities, many connected to the Bush campaign.

So he bought his way in eh? Yeah, every serious organization has said that he won, but you don't believe it... Do you believe in global warming?

Politically speaking, Karl Rove does the work for him. There is reason why no one will stand up and be accounted for, no one wants to get in Rove's cross hairs. The guy has the ability to damage/end political careers by the dirt he floats in the media. Rove is a genius at manipulation of the electoral process, and no one is willing to risk their cushy position at the political trough to put a stop to the illigal actions of the Bush administration. If the Democrats carry one of the houses this fall, count on Bush being impeached. If Rove gets indicted, and disappears from the administration, it may happen anyways. At that point no one will be afraid of Bush and the non-neo-con Republicans will turn on the administration.

I'm not afriad of Bush - because you are doesn't make is that everyone is Lanny.

Not Bush alone, but the Project for the New American Century certainly has. The fruit loops published their Mein Kampf back in the 90's and have followed it to a "T". All the arm waiving in the world isn't going to change that.

So you think Mein Kampf and the PNAC are on similar moralistic grounds?

Yes and no. First, Bush knows nothing of the world. He's an idiot who, prior to coming to office, couldn't pick out Afghanistan on a map (and that is the truth, proven when he was Govenor of Texas and the Taliban came through the state). Bush really didn't have a clue on foreign policy, or anything else for that matter, so he had his daddy and brither tell him who to pick for his administration. They don't hate the world, they just want to run it and have it a homogenized place where everyone speaks and thinks American.

No, he is naturally isoaltionist - I think 9.11 might have a wee bit to do with his chnage of heart - no?

Bush does have a strong religious belief and part of that belief is the rapture. He firmly believes that God has chosen him and that God is speaking through him. A man who has the belief structure that says the end of the world is a good thing, and will lead to his people's salvation for eternity, is a very scary proposition. He thinks he's in a win-win no matter what happens. That's why he's more than willing to trot out the nookylur option like its nothing more than an ingredient in mom's chocolate cake recipe. The idea of ending it all doesn't register with him as a bad thing.

Then why hasn't he done it? No one can possibly stop the USA now and he knows that they are just going to get relatively weaker on the world stage as time goes by? The time to 'end it all' was in 2001. Yet you are still here spouting your drivel.. hmmm...

Nice arm waiving. If this is the "proof" you were going to trot out, it hasn't been convincing. Bush is the most hated leader in the world, and with good reason. His complete disregard for law and the world community is beyond belief. To find someone in recent memory who has held the rest of the world in such contempt and to execute HIS will whenever he seems fit, you have to go back to pre-WWII Germany and developing despot by the name of Adolf Hitler. No, Bush has not yet hit those same lows as Hitler did during WWII, but based on Bush's record to date, anything is possible.

Not sure about you but I 'hate' Kim Il and the Iranian president and Putin more than Bush.. Luckily, they don't have the power Bush has at their disposal. The real reason that alot of people 'hate' Bush is that he has alot of power and he is ready to use it, after the events of 9.11. It's an underdog thing. The same reason most people cheer for the underdog - it has metamorphosized into 'Bush bashing'. Can't wait until he's gone if only for that reason.

[White Doors]

Sorry - not as good at the 'quoting' thing as others.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by White Doors

The real reason that alot of people 'hate' Bush is that he has alot of power and he is ready to use it, after the events of 9.11.

Why do you insist that people "hate" Bush for irrational and nonsensical reasons? You can't really believe it's that simple, can you?

An awful lot of people, the majority in the States I'm sure, liked Bush because of that power and will to use it right after 9/11. 5 years later a lot of those same people dislike Bush. Did they just change their mind from "like" to "dislike" on a whim, or did they have a reason?

It's not because "he has a lot of power and is ready to use it", it's because he has a lot of power, is willing to use it, and he's used it poorly.

[White Doors]

He Hasn't used it always perfectly, no. But he has used it and I think politically that has made him a target in his own country and certainly with other countries that wish they had more power and others that used to have it and wished that they still had the same influence that they used to. Yes, I do think that ENVY is a powerful motivator both in individuals and nations.

You don't agree?

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by White Doors

He Hasn't used it always perfectly, no. But he has used it and I think politically that has made him a target in his own country and certainly with other countries that wish they had more power and others that used to have it and wished that they still had the same influence that they used to. Yes, I do think that ENVY is a powerful motivator both in individuals and nations.

You don't agree?

Nah. I don't agree. There are other reasons to be unhappy. Real reasons, not petty little excuses like "they are jealous" (which directly contradicts "they hate us for our freedoms", btw).

I have a feeling we'll be seeing some protesting in the streets in the near future and they aren't going to be about envy. ]

Some of you guys, I don't know how you can go on like this. How can you actually believe all the criticism is based on nothing more than petty jealousy? It's mindboggling. What about those guys in the Republican party that are criticizing the Administration? Are they jealous too?

Whatever makes you sleep at night, I guess.

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Wrong and unneccessary. Would you have suspected murderers held indefinitely without council? We live in a society where you are innocent until proven guilty.

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin

Suspected Murderers ? Absolutely not.

Suspected terrorists? Yes. This debate has been going on in Brittain as well.

I'll see if I have time to look for the links. For another thread.

[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally Posted by White Doors

One of his biggest voting blocks are hispanic Lanny. You're a whitey and you hate him - doesn't that tell you anything?

Well, that 100% bull****. And you had the gall to call me a liar? Wow. How you weren't banned a long time ago is beyond me. Latinos voted 53% for Kerry in 2004, 9% better than Bush was able to muster. If it weren't for "whitey" (as you so gracefully put it) Bush would not have been re-elected. 58% of "whitey" voted for the village idiot (a whopping 77% of the vote was white). Blacks and Asians also voted for Kerry (88% and 56% respectively). But hey, why let the FACTS get in the way?

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pag.../epolls.0.html

No - I don't think he's evil either. And the middle class in America is doing far better now than they were under Clinton. Not to mention the poor people - no one left behind legislation. Bush is not as far 'right' as most people think.

Again, more bull****. Here's the truth from a organization who focus solely on defining on how the middle class is doing.

Eighty-four percent of Americans worry that the middle class is living paycheck to paycheck, and being left behind in general.
The Bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 may have improved the corporate bottom line, but not that of Americans. During the first two years of the president's first term, Americans' incomes declined by more than $1,400.
Middle-class Americans are experiencing long-term unemployment. In 2003, those employed as public administrators, teachers, and retails sales workers, earning anywhere from $488 to $1,124 a week, experienced average periods of unemployment as long as eleven weeks.
Following the last recession and "jobless recovery," it is estimated that the newly created jobs of 2004 paid $8,000 less than those lost between 2001 and 2003, and were less likely to offer health insurance to their workers.
Working Americans are paying significantly more to hold onto their health insurance. In 2003, working Americans with employer-provided health insurance programs saw their premiums increase by nearly 14 percent. It's no wonder, combined with the increase in unemployment, that more than 40 percent of the 1.4 million newly uninsured in 2004 were middle class.
In 2003, more than 90 percent of the 1.6 million American families that filed for bankruptcy were middle-class--more than half named job loss, a health emergency, or divorce as the reason for filing.
To cover their monthly bills more American families have turned to credit cards as means of payment. In 2003, the average American family held more than $2,295 dollars in credit card debt.
More than 640,000 family homes were in the process of foreclosure in 2003, and more the 53,000 families actually lost their home.

http://www.themiddleclass.org/main.c...eenKey=talking

Disregard for law? Now what is that? Potential and reality are two different things. When brownshirts come to your home and lock you up or kill you for the drivel you post here, I will be the first one to defend you. But in reality we are no where near that. not even close.

The Patriot Act allows for them to do just what you suggest. That is not where the admin doesn't have to worry, as they managed to hoodwink the congress into passing the bill that would allow these unprecedented powers. Where the Bush administration continues to break law is in the areas of domestic spying, illegal detainment of non-American citizens, the on-going torture in secret camps, , the outing of a CIA operative (treason), the potential lying to garner support for war, and the illegal invasion and occupation of a foreign nation. These are the issues that will lead to the impeachment of Bush.

So they arean't made public or they are Lanny? you can't have it both ways.. Oh wait a minute, YOU can as you are a conspiracy theorist. You HAVE to have it both ways in order for it to make 'sense'.. sorry I forgot.

What are you, dense? The Bush administration holds a press conference saying that the terror level has been elevated, even though it has not be raised by DHS. At least not with State or Federal agencies any ways, and they are the ones who would know of the terror level has been elevated. Just like the fudging on the CIA reports on WMDs, the Bush administration seems to read what ever they want in regards to "intelligence" (that's polite for making garbage up). Any elevation is passed along to the Federal and State bodies responsible for public safety, NOT to the media. Do you have any idea what a release would do to the agencies responsible for the public safety function if that information were willy-nilly released like that? The avalanche of BS calls would make administering the public safety mechanism next to impossible. That is why they are kept quiet and compartmentalized.

So he bought his way in eh? Yeah, every serious organization has said that he won, but you don't believe it... Do you believe in global warming?

Its FACT that the supreme court gave the election to Bush.

As to the 2004 election, there were voting machine irregularities in both Florida and Ohio. Clint Curtis, a programmer from Florida, stunned the Ohio Commission investigating irregularities in the 2004 election when he told them he had been approached to write code to alter the votes made using the machines.

http://www.iwilltryit.com/fixed1.htm

This link goes through to another discussion board that is dedicated to voting machines. As you can see, there are a great number of irregularities, and they just happen to be in states that Bush just managed to carry, and happened to be the swing states that carries the election.

http://www.bbvforums.org/cgi-bin/for...954/19421.html

And yes, I do believe in global warming. If you don't, you likely still believe in Santa Claus, the tooth fairy and the easter bunny. How can you even question that at this point?

I'm not afriad of Bush - because you are doesn't make is that everyone is Lanny.[/quote]

You're not in politics, and you're not in America. Some of the things you say are just plain stupid, and this one is at the top of the list.

So you think Mein Kampf and the PNAC are on similar moralistic grounds?

Certainly. I find both to be immoral in many ways.

No, he is naturally isoaltionist - I think 9.11 might have a wee bit to do with his chnage of heart - no?

Isolationist my butt. George Bush wouldn't know an isolationist policy from an imperialistic one. The guy is a blithering idiot. There is a huige difference between being an isolationist and being ignorant of the world around you. George W. Bush is the latter. 9/11 changed nothing. Bush is still a complete moron when it comes to pretty well anything. He's Dan Quayle with a dedicated handler.

[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally Posted by White Doors

Then why hasn't he done it? No one can possibly stop the USA now and he knows that they are just going to get relatively weaker on the world stage as time goes by? The time to 'end it all' was in 2001. Yet you are still here spouting your drivel.. hmmm...

No one can stop the USA? Wow. Just wow. The Chinese have a military of almost 3.5 million soldiers. They also have many sophisticated weapons systems that are on par with present American systems (not counting for weapons systems in development on either side of the debate). The Russians have quickly rebuilt their military and have more weaponry than the Americans do. The weakness for the Russians is the condition of their arsenal. No one but them knows what shape it is in. Add in the French and Germans, and there is a massive amount of force that could easily be placed on the neck of America. Looking at America, the military is pretty stretched to the breaking point. They don't have the troops to even support the effort in Iraq. Without a draft the military is in serious trouble. Recruiting numbers have not been met for five or six quarters in a row. The miliary isn't a viable alternative when the people of the country think the administration is rife with lying scumbags looking to start a fight with anyone they can.

[quote]Not sure about you but I 'hate' Kim Il and the Iranian president and Putin more than Bush.. Luckily, they don't have the power Bush has at their disposal. The real reason that alot of people 'hate' Bush is that he has alot of power and he is ready to use it, after the events of 9.11. It's an underdog thing. The same reason most people cheer for the underdog - it has metamorphosized into 'Bush bashing'. Can't wait until he's gone if only for that reason.[/quote]

Again, wow. You "hate" these leaders? What the hell have they done to you? What have they done to impact your life what so ever? Jesus, you talk about mindless drivel, and have the balls to float that crap? Get serious. And Bush doesn't have half the power you think he does. The American military has some wonderful technology, but they don't have the bodies to win the war in the long run. Just because they can beat up the lcal 98 pound weaking at the beach doesn't mean anything. The Russians can match the Americans in airframes. The Russians still have more nuclear weapons than the Americans. The Chinese are a complete wild card and I would not want to take on anyone who has 10 times more soliders than I do, especially when I don't know the capability of their weaponry.

People hate Bush because he has no idea what is going on in the world. He makes stupid decisions that alienate other nations and divide people rather than unite. On 9/12/2001, the world was united. Everyone was American and stood behind America. But through a series of stupid decisions, a private agenda, and an endless stream of insults directed at the international community, Bush has polarized the world. When he said, "you're either with us, or against us" he began a division of the world that has the majority of the world powers on the other side of the fense. People hate George Bush because his stupidity allowed him to change the direction of human nature. What could have been the dawning of aquarius turned into game of chosing sides. People hold him in contempt because he's too stupid to acknowledge the opportunity he let slide.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by HOZ

Suspected Murderers ? Absolutely not.

Suspected terrorists? Yes. This debate has been going on in Brittain as well.

I'll see if I have time to look for the links. For another thread.

Christ, you're McCarthy's wet dream.

[White Doors]

No one can stop the USA? Wow. Just wow. The Chinese have a military of almost 3.5 million soldiers. They also have many sophisticated weapons systems that are on par with present American systems (not counting for weapons systems in development on either side of the debate).

haha not even close Lanny. Lest we forget that the Iraqi's had the 4th largest standing army in the world prior to the first gulf war. Alot of good that did them eh?
haha

The Russians have quickly rebuilt their military and have more weaponry than the Americans do. The weakness for the Russians is the condition of their arsenal. No one but them knows what shape it is in.

Wow - I guess Canada should invade the states then eh? Canada now spends more on it's military then does the Russians. ie: try again

Add in the French and Germans, and there is a massive amount of force that could easily be placed on the neck of America. Looking at America, the military is pretty stretched to the breaking point. They don't have the troops to even support the effort in Iraq. Without a draft the military is in serious trouble. Recruiting numbers have not been met for five or six quarters in a row. The miliary isn't a viable alternative when the people of the country think the administration is rife with lying scumbags looking to start a fight with anyone they can.

You will argue that birds don't really fly won't you Lanny?
The USA spends more on it's military then the whole of Nato combined.

[White Doors]

On 9/12/2001, the world was united. Everyone was American and stood behind America.

I see you don't remember many of the muslims of the world celebrating?
how convenient of you.

[White Doors]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Nah. I don't agree. There are other reasons to be unhappy. Real reasons, not petty little excuses like "they are jealous" (which directly contradicts "they hate us for our freedoms", btw).

I have a feeling we'll be seeing some protesting in the streets in the near future and they aren't going to be about envy. ]

Some of you guys, I don't know how you can go on like this. How can you actually believe all the criticism is based on nothing more than petty jealousy? It's mindboggling. What about those guys in the Republican party that are criticizing the Administration? Are they jealous too?

Whatever makes you sleep at night, I guess.

Jealousy and envy are the driving force behind many of the backwards socialistic idealogies of the far left in history, now and regrettably, in the future as well.

[White Doors]

And Lanny, how would you know whereI live or if I am in politics or not? You don't and it's not even relevent.

[White Doors]

Its FACT that the supreme court gave the election to Bush.

Is that from the same source as a missle going into the pentagon Lanny?
LOL!

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Christ, you're McCarthy's wet dream.

Excuse me? WFYT! You're Bin Laden's wet dream.

[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally Posted by White Doors

I see you don't remember many of the muslims of the world celebrating?
how convenient of you.

Yup, and there are Americans that scream "nuke em" at the drop of every hat. Does that make every American a warmongering idiot hell bent on destroying the world? Nope. Don't allow the extremists to cloud your vision of the whole region. 9/11 was universally acknowledged as one of the low points for our species. No one, except the Taliban and their sect, were willing to harbor those responsible.

The FACT is that the United States was given full cooperation across the board in the response it wanted to make. The invasion of Afghanistan was a watershed moment in history. America got cooperation from long time enemies like Russia and Iran. The Russians agreed to allow America to stage from the "stans" (Uzbek, Tzjek and Kryg) for the air support required. Iran even gave American planes the okay to fly over and land in Iran if they experienced trouble from engagement in Afghanistan. China was most cooperative and coughed up intelligence for the region. Nations gave support and money for the effort, across the board. So either you forget that, or didn't even know that from the outset. Based on the garbage you spew, I think it was a matter of you didn't know any of that.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by White Doors

Jealousy and envy are the driving force behind many of the backwards socialistic idealogies of the far left in history, now and regrettably, in the future as well.

What the hell does the far left or socialism have to do with anything? Oh that's right, nothing. Unless of course you want to paint all Bush-critics as a bunch of Manifesto-waving loons. It's a pretty ham-handed attempt to dismiss criticism but I don't blame you for trying.

The truth of the matter is that governments and people of all political stripes, including American Republicans, former Bush staffers and high-ranking members of the military have been critical of George's policies and actions. I guess they are far-left, jealous socialists as well?

[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally Posted by White Doors

Is that from the same source as a missle going into the pentagon Lanny?
LOL!

No, *******, that would be these sources.

http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/00-949.ZPC.html
http://www.rpi.edu/~winner/Dersch.html
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLI...reme.excerpts/
http://www.infoimagination.org/ps/election_2000/

And any time you wish to openly debate the Pentagon situation, we can do so. But you will have to provide more in regards of support for your position in that debate than you do here. Hell, e-mail me and we can pick this up privately.

[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally Posted by White Doors

And Lanny, how would you know whereI live or if I am in politics or not? You don't and it's not even relevent.

You're in politics? What a laugh. You can't even defend a single point on Calgarypuck with any clarity, there is no way you would last five seconds in the political arena. You can barely articulate your position of supporting Bush, how could you possibly defend any legislation you attempt to introduce. You in politics? That's too funny.