05-22-2006, 05:45 PM
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That stuff Reggie posted yesterday.
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05-23-2006, 07:55 AM
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#42
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
90% of anything played on MTV, muchmusic, or radio. popular music isn't about the actual music anymore,
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Thinking like that ****es me off to no end, it's so ****ing cliche it makes me sick. I hate it when people hate stuff because it's popular, that has never made any sense to me. Newsflash, you ever thought that some of the stuff you listen to isn't popular is because it's absolute crap, but since no has ever heard it, you think its great because "it's about the music".....ZZZZZ....what a load of crap.
I'm not gonna come here and say that popular music is solid gold, but some it is great, and yes, a lot more than 10 percent. Stuff on Muchmusic is generally pretty ****ty, but radio plays lots of good music.
Didn't mean to rip on you, and im sure you vehemently disagree with me and thats fine and im sure the majority of guys disagree with me and thats fine, but guys who say that a band like Nickelback sucks, thats not true, 12 million albums sold will tell you that they dont suck, you may not like the band and thats fine, but they don't suck. Yes, this is a quote from Chad K. but it makes perfect sense to me.
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05-23-2006, 08:22 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: London, Ontario
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I'll go out on a limb and say The Rolling Stones. The absolute worst musicians on the planet and yet they are immensely popular.
I probably hate them so much because they steal some thunder from The Who.
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05-23-2006, 09:12 AM
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#44
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Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN
Thinking like that ****es me off to no end, it's so ****ing cliche it makes me sick. I hate it when people hate stuff because it's popular, that has never made any sense to me. Newsflash, you ever thought that some of the stuff you listen to isn't popular is because it's absolute crap, but since no has ever heard it, you think its great because "it's about the music".....ZZZZZ....what a load of crap.
I'm not gonna come here and say that popular music is solid gold, but some it is great, and yes, a lot more than 10 percent. Stuff on Muchmusic is generally pretty ****ty, but radio plays lots of good music.
Didn't mean to rip on you, and im sure you vehemently disagree with me and thats fine and im sure the majority of guys disagree with me and thats fine, but guys who say that a band like Nickelback sucks, thats not true, 12 million albums sold will tell you that they dont suck, you may not like the band and thats fine, but they don't suck. Yes, this is a quote from Chad K. but it makes perfect sense to me.
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I knew this thread was going to come to this...you just don't get it at all..its fine that you like nickelback, you can like whatever the heck you like. But mainstream music right now is more about selling a product to the consumer, thus all you here is generic watered down, unchallenging, uninteresting product. When you have 20 other bands that sound exactly like eachother dominating the airwaves, i'm sorry, but some people get sick of that. If you are happy with mainstream music outlets, go nuts, but in actual fact, it is the worst it has ever been, it is next to impossible to hear something new and interesting on radio or muchmusic. I personally have given up on mainstream outlets, and its not because I hate anything popular, its because a lot of what is "popular" right now is boring. Obviously though, according to you, popularity somehow equates to quality, so the boy bands and teen queens must be the best musicians on the bloody planet.
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05-23-2006, 09:32 AM
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#45
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Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN
but guys who say that a band like Nickelback sucks, thats not true, 12 million albums sold will tell you that they dont suck, you may not like the band and thats fine, but they don't suck. Yes, this is a quote from Chad K. but it makes perfect sense to me.
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See, that's EXACTLY the problem. People today try to justify how good somebody is with how many albums they've sold. Are you freaking kidding me? Music is not a balance sheet. I'll be the last one to tell anyone what to listen to, but thinking that numbers equate to quality is just stupid.
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05-23-2006, 09:35 AM
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#46
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Originally Posted by FireFly
Well technically speaking, since this thread started about the 'sound' of a singer, I can't say that any one singer's voice is particularly irritating. There is irritating music certainly, but I can't say there's one voice that is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me.
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You've clearly never listened to Simple Plan. Everytime I here that whiny voice start up I want to scream.
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05-23-2006, 09:55 AM
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#47
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Maple Ridge, BC
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so there's 2 people to totally miss my point, I never said that record sales equate quality, but keep on thinkin that I did
Last edited by VANFLAMESFAN; 05-23-2006 at 09:58 AM.
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05-23-2006, 10:00 AM
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#48
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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Originally Posted by Igottago
I knew this thread was going to come to this...you just don't get it at all..its fine that you like nickelback, you can like whatever the heck you like. But mainstream music right now is more about selling a product to the consumer, thus all you here is generic watered down, unchallenging, uninteresting product. When you have 20 other bands that sound exactly like eachother dominating the airwaves, i'm sorry, but some people get sick of that. If you are happy with mainstream music outlets, go nuts, but in actual fact, it is the worst it has ever been, it is next to impossible to hear something new and interesting on radio or muchmusic. I personally have given up on mainstream outlets, and its not because I hate anything popular, its because a lot of what is "popular" right now is boring. Obviously though, according to you, popularity somehow equates to quality, so the boy bands and teen queens must be the best musicians on the bloody planet.
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Nothing on this thread is fact, I dont see how you guys dont get this.
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05-23-2006, 10:01 AM
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#49
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
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That's easy.
Nickelback.
They are everything that is wrong with music today.
Period.
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05-23-2006, 10:13 AM
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Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by fotze
Today? I seem to remember these exact arguments lamenting what is wrong with music today, 15 years ago. Popular music will be hated and will represent what is wrong with music until the end of time.
If good music happens to become popular it turns into bad music.
There are very few bands that are 'good' and are still popular.
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I have to disagree with that. Look at Green Day for one. The White Stripes are another example of music that has remained good while still enjoying popularity. Also the new RHCP album debuted at #1 so that's a good sign.
All of these bands have done this by maintaining some originality and not just going with the flow of mainstream music.
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05-23-2006, 10:13 AM
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Had an idea!
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100% of the music they play on the local "rocK" stations.
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05-23-2006, 10:14 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Scott Stapp, Nickelback, Pssuy cat dolls, Black Eyed Peas
and just to be fair and include the indie scene, The New Pornographers
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05-23-2006, 10:14 AM
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#53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fotze
Today? I seem to remember these exact arguments lamenting what is wrong with music today, 15 years ago. Popular music will be hated and will represent what is wrong with music until the end of time.
If good music happens to become popular it turns into bad music.
There are very few bands that are 'good' and are still popular.
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What about The Clash?
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05-23-2006, 10:15 AM
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#54
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN
Nothing on this thread is fact, I dont see how you guys dont get this.
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Taste has nothing to do with fact, I wasn't talking about taste. But people don't even have a chance to develop a specific taste, because they are very limited in what they are given access to by the big music industry machine. Things like Muchmusic and mainstream radio limit a person's musical experience, not extend it. That is a fact.
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05-23-2006, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates
Scott Stapp, Nickelback, Pssuy cat dolls, Black Eyed Peas
and just to be fair and include the indie scene, The New Pornographers
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You can't stand the New Pornographers?
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05-23-2006, 10:40 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by fotze
Green Day and RHCP have both been accused of "selling out". I also said very few bands can do the popular but 'good' thing.
Ben Harper and Dave Mathews seem to bands that are popular but can still be in the 'good' category. They don't see much time on the pop charts though.
Harper seems to be a guy that could easily be marketed to the masses and sell tonnes. He is a good looking black guy who is mega-talented, uber-cool, married to a celebrity and his music isn't overly quirky or ahead of its time.
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Yeah, I love Ben Harper's stuff. I don't really see how Green Day can be accused of 'selling out' since they've never really changed their style (ok, Minority sucked). The same can be said for RHCP, IMO. They've evolved but their music is still generally the same. That being said, I know some people look for any excuse they can to say a band sold out.
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05-23-2006, 10:46 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Corpus Christi, Tx
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The Who, they are my favorite band but the majority of there songs would be so much better if they were sung by Pete Townshend instead of Roger Daltrey. So I guess you could say I don't like Roger Daltrey.
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05-23-2006, 10:51 AM
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#58
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Nothing is worse than Simple Plan.
Nickleback is terrible. Most Rap/Hip-hop is terrible.
Pink Floyd is mediocre at best, and horribly over-rated.
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05-23-2006, 11:12 AM
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For me its more of a song I really hate "Life is a highway" by Tom Cochran I would rather have my fish hooks put in my nose and be dragged behind a car than have to listen to that song.... ah i just hate that song so much its like a dieasase it makes me sick how people can let that filth come anywhere near there ears just boggles me mind
but the rest of his songs are good
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05-23-2006, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by J pold
For me its more of a song I really hate "Life is a highway" by Tom Cochran I would rather have my fish hooks put in my nose and be dragged behind a car than have to listen to that song.... ah i just hate that song so much its like a dieasase it makes me sick how people can let that filth come anywhere near there ears just boggles me mind
but the rest of his songs are good
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Shouldn't Sam Roberts be up there for you too?
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