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Old 05-14-2006, 05:40 PM   #41
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Bad business??? HELLO....The only reason these companies make money is becasue we the customer decide to spend our money there. **** off your customers and you will go broke! Business 101 buddy.
Pay low level minimum wagestaff $20 an hour and you WILL go broke. It's hardly long term vision to pay your staff so much you don't turn a profit. You hate to say it, but to pay staff that much for "flipping burgers" puts the entire pay scale out of whack.

Also, your implication that paying them bigger bucks will mean for better staff service - look at any unionized or govt job for the answer as to how that works... To use your own example, Westjet actually pays horrible, and look how good their service is.

The majority of customers are only as loyal as the cheapest option.
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Old 05-14-2006, 07:05 PM   #42
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I really dont think Timmy's, Walmart and these large franchise business would go broke by paying their staff what they are worth. The staff is what runs the business and makes it profitable. You have #####y staff you have a #####y business. As for the unionized workers dont get me started
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Old 05-14-2006, 07:41 PM   #43
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I don't think its fair to be comparing two different industries and two very different types of businesses. Its not even fair to be comparing a huge nationwide corporation like Tim Hortons to a small Chinese food joint.

Bottom line is that in the food industry, it is very difficult to make a profit. When your running a restaurant, there are so many costs and believe me, wages need to be that low in order to turn a profit. And I agree under the assumption that raises in an overall scale does not necessarily correlate with an equal raise in service or quality.

To be perfectly honest, by you demanding a 15% raise, I probably wouldn't have given you anything. No offence, but it comes off as rude. It also doesn't look like their struggling for customers, and probably truly were late.

I think if people are polite and apologetic, then it doesn't really matter if the service is late, and I'm not going to go off demanding discounts.

Discounts should be offered, and if not, too bad. You have to remember that YOUR going to THEM for food, THEY arent coming to YOU.

Not to mention, if they go out of business, that's their problem, not yours.

Some companies just aren't able to compete on a level of service as high as others but have strengths in other areas that the service companies are weaker in.
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Old 05-14-2006, 08:08 PM   #44
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I really dont think Timmy's, Walmart and these large franchise business would go broke by paying their staff what they are worth. The staff is what runs the business and makes it profitable. You have #####y staff you have a #####y business. As for the unionized workers dont get me started
How much is unskilled labor worth? Moreover, would it matter what they got paid. The types of jobs we are talking about are typically not long-term careers which has more to do with poor service than their wage.

There has to be a business case for either organization to pay their people better. When you consider the fac that both businesses are doing very well I see no rationale for paying their staff a significantly higher wage.
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Old 05-14-2006, 08:39 PM   #45
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How much is unskilled labor worth? Moreover, would it matter what they got paid. The types of jobs we are talking about are typically not long-term careers which has more to do with poor service than their wage.

There has to be a business case for either organization to pay their people better. When you consider the fac that both businesses are doing very well I see no rationale for paying their staff a significantly higher wage.
I agree with your thoughts. Unskilled labor should be paid as such. I'm sure this is teh result of a booming economy but the demand of late in wages for employees has sure started to increase.
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Old 05-14-2006, 09:15 PM   #46
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I really dont think Timmy's, Walmart and these large franchise business would go broke by paying their staff what they are worth. The staff is what runs the business and makes it profitable. You have #####y staff you have a #####y business. As for the unionized workers dont get me started
Dude, you seem to not grasp a basic concept here. Tim's won't go broke paying it's unskilled staff more, but you won't make as much money to distribute to me, the unitholder. That means it's unit (share) price will fall, and then it'll be a "shinguardy business"

Like I said, paying staff more is not a guarantee service will improve. Paying more will not mean it's a good business in the long run.

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Old 05-15-2006, 08:06 AM   #47
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Mind naming the resturant, so I can make sure to never order from their.
well, a restaurant i know that does this is toi shen (sp?) on 37th and bow trail nw

saw it with my own eyes as we were leaving.
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Old 05-15-2006, 10:56 AM   #48
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Is the Chinese Kitchen the one near F.A.T.S or is it the one up 14th Street.

If its the one on 14th Street and about 18-19 ave then yes it does look dodgy but it tastes damn good. All I do is go pick it up from there. You get 15% off and no tip required.

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Old 06-28-2007, 11:13 PM   #49
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Okay I hate bringing up really old threads but I need a place to blow off some steam. We recently bought this table and two headboards (they were the only place with an inexpensive plain platform bed), we spent quite a bit of money there. Anyways we did this mid-May and now we're into end of June I have never recieved my platform bed, and still waiting on an exchange for the table (the old one was all scratched up). So I phone them today and let them know that I want a straight refund and they can just return the table, they tell me okay that's fine, but we're keeping the warranty... what a bunch of A-HOLES!!! So I'm out $200.00 because they took forever too send there stuff out, yes I did call them about the items and they kept extending the date.


Thanks I feel better, lesson learnt don't TOUCH UFW.
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Old 06-29-2007, 04:29 AM   #50
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*we all just need to calm down and meditate a little bit*

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Old 06-29-2007, 08:21 AM   #51
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Meditate? No way! Go buy a cheap table from Ikea, paint UFW's logo on it and do a flying people's elbow!

Best way to blow off steam, imo.
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Old 06-29-2007, 08:23 AM   #52
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Never expect good service from United Furniture Warehouse. After all, they are owned by The Brick.
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Old 06-29-2007, 11:06 AM   #53
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NO!? not at a fast food joint!

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Old 06-29-2007, 11:08 AM   #54
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They pay what you are worth and not a penny more.

and what the market place demands. In Alberta, if you try to pay just minimum wage, you dont get employees, just that simple.
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Old 06-29-2007, 11:20 AM   #55
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A perfect example is the delay in passports. we were at 4 months!!!! and a few well placed phone calls got it done.

its all over...not just Alberta.

but yes, there are far too many people promoted just because there are no other people out there.

i personally don't understand how people can't tell who their customers are though...brain or no brain.
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redforever, you do realize you quotes statements that were over a year old?

While Doors has been (thankfully) banned since October.
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Old 06-29-2007, 01:53 PM   #57
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Never expect good service from United Furniture Warehouse. After all, they are owned by The Brick.

Well I didn't expect GREAT customer service but I didn't think they would actually steal my money..
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