September 11th Thread

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

I wanted to make a thread that commemorated the people who died from all walks of life, and this happens. Sorry you know what it was a horrible event, one which I will always remember and one which I would in all hoesty like to forget but you know what it happened and this was just a way of remembering the event which shook the world. Sure voice your opinion but don't go out and insult people and call them racist (I think that is what you were saying) for stating that this was a tragic event.

Come on people this isn't the time to go talk about politics, all it is is a thread that offers people the oportunity to voice their opinions on the subject and maybe discuss how they remember it. This has just turned into a mess. I just hope that the men women and children that died that day are resting in peace and are in heaven right now.

[???]

i will never froget 9/11, it happened as i walked out of Auschwitz , from one nightmare to another. to down play the event is just sad.

i dont care that it happened to americans, i will take a moment of silence next year for the victims in russia. you have problems with america fine, but why do you have problems with individual americans? is that not the same as blaming all muslims for the acts of bin laden.


please dont bother replying. just MHO. but i do not want to argue politics over 9/11.

edit: damn the last line makes me look like a hypocrit {sp}

edit edit : my grammer sucks

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally posted by BlackArcher101@Sep 11 2004, 06:00 AM
It's the same reason some people use a death in the family as an excuse for too long. Some people like to make others feel sorry for them, some like the attention it gets. How long are the Americans going to play this card for?

Wow.

Wow, wow, wow.

Unfreakingbelieveable.

[transplant99]

Originally posted by Displaced Flames fan+Sep 11 2004, 06:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Displaced Flames fan @ Sep 11 2004, 06:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-BlackArcher101@Sep 11 2004, 06:00 AM
It's the same reason some people use a death in the family as an excuse for too long.# Some people like to make others feel sorry for them, some like the attention it gets.# How long are the Americans going to play this card for?

Wow.

Wow, wow, wow.

Unfreakingbelieveable. [/b][/quote]
Yup Dis...mind-boggling to me as well.

Embarrassing to all Canadians IMO.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally posted by Displaced Flames fan+Sep 11 2004, 10:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Displaced Flames fan @ Sep 11 2004, 10:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-BlackArcher101@Sep 11 2004, 06:00 AM
It's the same reason some people use a death in the family as an excuse for too long. Some people like to make others feel sorry for them, some like the attention it gets. How long are the Americans going to play this card for?

Wow.

Wow, wow, wow.

Unfreakingbelieveable. [/b][/quote]
That was the one that made me very upset. to be honest with you, one of the stupidest posts I have ever seen. Should the Jews just get over the Holocaust (not say 9/11 was as bad as the Holocaust) should the Russians get over their children being killed in hostage takings, should the Koreans get over their women being used as sex slaves in Japan during World War Two (the comfort women).

Attitudes like those are in my opinion and to quote you DFF "Unfreakingbelieveable"

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally posted by Agamemnon@Sep 11 2004, 04:43 PM

so why do 3,000 wealthy Americans get the universal funeral?

This may be the most ignorant thing I have ever seen someone on this board post. You are expressing your opinion on the subject and you aren't even educated on it!

Citizens of over 60 countries died that day. Most Americans, obviously, but hundreds weren't.

For someone to insinuate that everyone who works in a skyscraper is wealthy is just so incredibly ignorant.

[Cowboy]

I remember September 11th over other Tragedies because

A) It only happened 3 years ago
B It happened to my North American neighbours whom we are very close too
C) It was televised well documented, and there was history behind it that I had previously attempted to understand.

Doesn't it home for people a little more than what has happened in Sudan, I know it does for me, not any more tragic. I am sure the people in South Africa or Japan are not feeling the same way I do. It is not a Universal funeral, it just feels like it because it affected our lives so much.

As for remembering, well I remember nearly everyday what happened. That was when the innocence of the world came crashing down on me and I realized that so many people want my people, or my neighours dead. I still remember when, where and how I was told, I can still picture my brothers face while he was telling me. Sad day.

Someone said that it felt like a movie (Which I can understand, and I am sure I have said it before too). You know, I don't even think I woud want to see that incident in a movie (if it never happened), People falling or jumping out of burning buildings would not be my type of entertainment.


I would be pretty offended reading this thread if I was American, I am certainly not in the same boat as so many, I actually hope this is all of them, I wouldn't have thought there to be that many.

[transplant99]

Now those damn "rascist" Canadian hockey players are paying homage to the "3,000 wealthy Americans" who died that day with apatch on their jerseys!!

What the hell are they thinking??

[Cowboy]

Originally posted by transplant99@Sep 11 2004, 05:35 PM
Now those damn "rascist" Canadian hockey players are paying homage to the "3,000 wealthy Americans" who died that day with apatch on their jerseys!!

What the hell are they thinking??

September 11th oh come on Transplant I am "over it"

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally posted by transplant99@Sep 11 2004, 11:35 PM
"rascist"

Bravo!

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally posted by Cowboy+Sep 11 2004, 11:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cowboy @ Sep 11 2004, 11:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-transplant99@Sep 11 2004, 05:35 PM
Now those damn "rascist" Canadian hockey players are paying homage to the "3,000 wealthy Americans" who died that day with apatch on their jerseys!!

What the hell are they thinking??

September 11th oh come on Transplant I am "over it" [/b][/quote]
I know I shouldn't post this because it might stir some feelings up but I have to (and I mean this with regards to the people who suffered directly from September 11th). That day it felt like a family member died, or at least a good family friend died. I did not know the people that did die but when you read about the stories of the people who helped save others getting murdered such as firemen and police officers and even ordinary businessmen and women, it made me personally feel as though I knew someone, and these coward terrorists killed someone I cared about. Sure this might have something to do with myself hoping to become part of a police force in the future, but you know what I think it has more to do with my honest compassion.

The question I have to ask of these people is why should I get over it? If anyone has ever had a family member or a friend die prematurally you would know it takes years, hell even decades for the people affected to at least get on with their lives and even then it always feels as though something is missing. That is the way that I feel, and I would imagine a great number of Americans also feel.

[Cowboy]

I hope MMM that you knew I was being sarcastic, I can't believe anyone thinks people should get over it, especially after 3 years. That picture Fotze posted made me sick to my stomach (literally). It happened to people who believe in the same basics things that I do. People who go about there lives the same way I do...

It will sting for years.

[Freeway]

Three years later, it still stings. I remember seeing the plane hit the second tower on Global, then heading to school on the bus. Everyone was in a state of shock. Some people never came out of that shock.

The saddest thing is that those 3000 deaths didn't change much. Large groups of people had been killed before (Oklahoma City) and have since (Russia).

[Abstract]

I started to read through this thread but got tired of the political opinions and arguing.

My condolences continue to go out to everyone who lost someone on September 11th.

That being said I do think its time that the memorials became more private and less public. Things like the Valour Bear and Hallmark cards to me totally belittle everything that these people go through on the anniversary of the attacks.

Furthermore to me one of the saddest things about the attacks is that it has lead to the death of 140,000 civillians of a country (Iraq) whose people did not commit the atrocity.

[peter12]

Originally posted by Mean Mr. Mustard+Sep 11 2004, 05:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mean Mr. Mustard @ Sep 11 2004, 05:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

September 11th oh come on Transplant I am "over it"

I know I shouldn't post this because it might stir some feelings up but I have to (and I mean this with regards to the people who suffered directly from September 11th). That day it felt like a family member died, or at least a good family friend died. I did not know the people that did die but when you read about the stories of the people who helped save others getting murdered such as firemen and police officers and even ordinary businessmen and women, it made me personally feel as though I knew someone, and these coward terrorists killed someone I cared about. Sure this might have something to do with myself hoping to become part of a police force in the future, but you know what I think it has more to do with my honest compassion.

The question I have to ask of these people is why should I get over it? If anyone has ever had a family member or a friend die prematurally you would know it takes years, hell even decades for the people affected to at least get on with their lives and even then it always feels as though something is missing. That is the way that I feel, and I would imagine a great number of Americans also feel. [/b][/quote]
Cheesy post. How does the Sudan genocide make you feel MMM?

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally posted by peter12+Sep 12 2004, 12:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (peter12 @ Sep 12 2004, 12:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

I know I shouldn't post this because it might stir some feelings up but I have to (and I mean this with regards to the people who suffered directly from September 11th). That day it felt like a family member died, or at least a good family friend died. I did not know the people that did die but when you read about the stories of the people who helped save others getting murdered such as firemen and police officers and even ordinary businessmen and women, it made me personally feel as though I knew someone, and these coward terrorists killed someone I cared about. Sure this might have something to do with myself hoping to become part of a police force in the future, but you know what I think it has more to do with my honest compassion.

The question I have to ask of these people is why should I get over it? If anyone has ever had a family member or a friend die prematurally you would know it takes years, hell even decades for the people affected to at least get on with their lives and even then it always feels as though something is missing. That is the way that I feel, and I would imagine a great number of Americans also feel.

Cheesy post. How does the Sudan genocide make you feel MMM? [/b][/quote]
It makes me sad but at the same time how does that detract from September 11th. Hell my cousin died and you know what it has been over a decade and I am not over that, should I say, well lots of people died in Sudan today so why don't I just move on. You can consider it cheesy or what ever but I honestly mean that. I saw thousands of people die live (on television of course) that is bound to have an effect.

[peter12]

I certainly didn't feel like I personally felt the pain when I watched those planes slam into the WTCs. I was certainly incredibly shocked and concerned, saddened for the people in those towers.

I still think it was a terrible thing to happen. All I am saying I think it is kind of funny how some people can make such a big deal out of this when much worse things happen on a daily basis, I know, I have seen some of them.

[Cowboy]

How does the Sudan genocide make you feel MMM?

The only difference in the way it makes me feel is that what happened to New York hit home a little more. It has nothing to do with knowing the people. I feel a lot closer to people in America than I do to people in Sudan, and pretty much any other country. I don't imagine people in the Ukraine are having this same conversation, it wouldn't hit home like it does for Canadians.

edit-country, thinking of Sarejevo as well

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Worse things happen granted. But come on it is the aniversary of the attacks which didn't happen to long ago. I think one day out of 364 would be all right for someone to say, damn you know what that was a really tragic event.

[peter12]

I seriously take this event into consideration almost every day of my life. It is going to be the defining point of the next century certainly.