[GDT] Montreal Canadiens at Calgary Flames 6:30pm TV: SN, RDS - RADIO SN960

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dino7c

UTH isn't in the Pacific, you would need to beat 3 of those teams.
LA has 2 wins
Vancouver just lost to Pittsburg 5-1 and the injuries are piling up
Seattle and Edmonton have 3 wins with the softest of schedules so far
Flames opponents have been like playing like .700 average

nobody is running away with anything

Not even saying for the Flames...96 points was the highest total in history to miss in the west, its likely slightly lower. Its probably low 90s to make the playoffs this year, not that that wouldn't also take a crazy effort.

Right, UTH is in the Central, sorry.

Yes, LAK has 2 wins - do you think they are suddenly ####ty this year? Last 3 years they have had 104, 99 and 105 pts.
VAN losing to PIT is completely irrelevant - you know as well as anyone that isn't an argument.

If you want to have a reasonable discussion, then great, let's have it. How many pts do you think each of these teams gets this year? And how many do you think the Flames will get? Make a reasonable argument as to how they will make the playoffs.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

Calgary ranks top 5 in the NHL in xGF% at five on five, yet sit dead last in both shooting percentage, and save percentage. A correction will come at some point, so it may as well happen against the Canadiens and their entitled fanbase.

6-2 win tonight.

They are definitely due for a correction. At some point, the bounces start going their way and they put up 4-5 goals per game for a stretch. Tonight would be as good a time as any to start that run.

[flambers]

Guessing the Flames win 5-2

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

Calgary ranks top 5 in the NHL in xGF% at five on five, yet sit dead last in both shooting percentage, and save percentage. A correction will come at some point, so it may as well happen against the Canadiens and their entitled fanbase.

6-2 win tonight.

Careful...a couple posters get mad at anything otjer than they are the worst team in league history...even if stats are involved

[Locke]

The fact that in Cheese's GDT opener the 'Team Leader' on the Flames for goals is a faceless placeholder.



I am the sad.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Right, UTH is in the Central, sorry.

Yes, LAK has 2 wins - do you think they are suddenly ####ty this year? Last 3 years they have had 104, 99 and 105 pts.
VAN losing to PIT is completely irrelevant - you know as well as anyone that isn't an argument.

If you want to have a reasonable discussion, then great, let's have it. How many pts do you think each of these teams gets this year? And how many do you think the Flames will get? Make a reasonable argument as to how they will make the playoffs.

Yes LA is worse...did you miss their offseason?
The Vancouver losing to PIT is relevant...if the Flames lost 5-1 to the Pens this place would be meltdown central but a bigger factor for them are the injuries
The point is nobody is running away with it other than Vegas
96 missed the playoffs once its not the norm to need that much

Again I never argued they would make the playoffs just that 96-97 isnt likely the number

[peter12]

We may never win again.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

Calgary ranks top 5 in the NHL in xGF% at five on five, yet sit dead last in both shooting percentage, and save percentage. A correction will come at some point, so it may as well happen against the Canadiens and their entitled fanbase.

6-2 win tonight.

All this proves to me is advanced stats are pretty useless.

The Flames have been trailing or playing from behind the entire year. Teams stop playing as hard when they get up, which might explain some of these numbers.

Also a scoring chance for Eichel or Schiefele is much different than a scoring chance for Farabee lol.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

All this proves to me is advanced stats are pretty useless.

The Flames have been trailing or playing from behind the entire year. Teams stop playing as hard when they get up, which might explain some of these numbers.

Also a scoring chance for Eichel or Schiefele is much different than a scoring chance for Farabee lol.

Classic Rhett44
Flames have had the lead in or won 5 of 7 games

Every home game the Flames have led the game longer than their opponents

[calumniate]

Flames could use some finish.. ugh

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Yes LA is worse...did you miss their offseason?
The Vancouver losing to PIT is relevant...if the Flames lost 5-1 to the Pens this place would be meltdown central but a bigger factor for them are the injuries
The point is nobody is running away with it other than Vegas
96 missed the playoffs once its not the norm to need that much

Again I never argued they would make the playoffs just that 96-97 isnt likely the number

People say this every year. And pretty much every year it is.

As for "did you miss their offseason?"... comments like that just show you have no actual argument. The Kings will almost certainly hit 96 pts again this year.

And arguing that VAN losing to PIT is relevant only hurts your credibility.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I find that Ryan Pike tweet funny. I don't know about anyone else but it's an extremely easy choice for me to watch the first BJs world series game in 30 years instead of a nothing game <10 games into the season between the flames and Jets. Are the wranglers even televised? haha

No doubt. I’m just thinking, how much would the Flames have to pay me to watch the game over Game 1 of the World Series? It’s definitely more than $0. Who gives a #### lol

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

People say this every year. And pretty much every year it is.

As for "did you miss their offseason?"... comments like that just show you have no actual argument. The Kings will almost certainly hit 96 pts again this year.

And arguing that VAN losing to PIT is relevant only hurts your credibility.

96 has missed the playoffs in the west one time in history because a team won 11 straight lol.
And the point about Vancouver is they have some major injuries starting to pile up and look like they might be in for a slump.
They are also 4-3 not 6-1 or something. Nobody in the Pacific is out to a great start other than Vegas.

I bet Kings don't hit 96...they have 2 wins and Kopitar is injured. Their D is terrible.

[Icon]

2-1 Flames shootout win. I think predicting more than 1 Flames goal per game is a stretch.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

No doubt. I’m just thinking, how much would the Flames have to pay me to watch the game over Game 1 of the World Series? It’s definitely more than $0. Who gives a #### lol

baseball is stressful, I will likely flip back and fourth depending on how things are going. Both teams I'm rooting for are massiver underdogs

[EVERLAST]

Montreal is absolutely scary. Seriously.
Marty has them playing loosey goose hockey and the speed , tenacity, skill, heart leaves me drooling.

The kid we punted down the road returns now as a coach to do some crotch kicking , Heck I'd say the Habs will finish well enough and barring Injuries // additions at the TDL will surprise people .

I can easily cheer for them as my second favorite team because holy moly are they entertaining and have alot to prove .

To me if they had Wolf they'd be flat out unbeatable .

[ForeverFlameFan]

Flames usually win the ones I don't think they will and lose the ones they shouldn't. So, I'll say we lose (win) this one.

[taxbuster]

I'm in France, so hopefully some French mojo gets to the Flames and they get a W (because nobody wants to be discouraged ALL the time...except for R44 and K97 who seem to thrive on it, but they call it "encouragement" instead I think?).


Anyway...for tonight...GFG!

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

All this proves to me is advanced stats are pretty useless.

The Flames have been trailing or playing from behind the entire year. Teams stop playing as hard when they get up, which might explain some of these numbers.

Also a scoring chance for Eichel or Schiefele is much different than a scoring chance for Farabee lol.

The data doesn't support your claim.

Calgary's xGF% when trailing in games is 47.67%
Calgary's xGF% when tied in games is 54.82%
Calgary's xGF% when leading in games is 67.34%

We have a .915 PDO which quite frankly is impossible to come even close to maintaining. The lowest PDO at 5 on 5 over the last half decade in the NHL is .970

[bc-chris]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I find that Ryan Pike tweet funny. I don't know about anyone else but it's an extremely easy choice for me to watch the first BJs world series game in 30 years instead of a nothing game <10 games into the season between the flames and Jets. Are the wranglers even televised? haha

he forgot about the stamps game