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Bingo · 10-21-2025, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

The Flames were not great last year, LOL. And even if you want to argue that they were reasonably good, the fact is that they were 19th in PP percentage, and 25th in PK. Any team that is bottom half of the league should be looking at ways to improve. To suggest that Huska is somehow upsetting the applecart is ridiculous - the organization is trying to improve, and any fan that thinks they shouldn't be doing these things (now, especially) is nuts, IMO.

As for the bold, do you honestly believe that the organization has not given Huska clear directions on what they want from him? Just because they haven't come out and told you specifically what their plans are, does not mean they don't have plans, or have not shared them with Huska.

Honestly, some of the complaints around here are just ridiculous - people want to spin literally everything as a reason to bitch about the team. "they are trying to improve the special teams - how dare they?!?"

Imagine if the guy in charge of the PK, Trent Cull had a suggestion to improve the penalty kill but was told to drop it because the team finished tied for a playoff spot and we're not changing anything!

HighLifeMan · 10-21-2025, 01:47 PM

Our #1 C, #1 D, and #1 goaltender have all heavily underperformed through 7 games.

TheScorpion · 10-21-2025, 01:48 PM

This thread has a concerning lack of Connor Zary and Morgan Frost.

Monahammer · 10-21-2025, 04:09 PM

Conroy is the biggest underperformer this year.

Should have made more room for Zary up front. Probably Gridin too, as he has been by far the most offensively apt player the flames have iced this season.

Should have made room for Parekh in the back. Ridiculous to play him 12:57 minutes a night and expect that he will develop or retain confidence.

gvitaly · 10-21-2025, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheScorpion

This thread has a concerning lack of Connor Zary and Morgan Frost.

Zary seems to be getting the Bennett treatment. He gets a pass in my book because of the constant changes from C to W, and playing on a different line every night. He wasn't a great fit on the Backlund line, but I think he has chemistry with Kadri.

Frost built up some good will by being the best forward during preseason, and the first couple of games. He definitely needs to pick things up.

PepsiFree · 10-22-2025, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by gvitaly

Zary seems to be getting the Bennett treatment. He gets a pass in my book because of the constant changes from C to W, and playing on a different line every night. He wasn't a great fit on the Backlund line, but I think he has chemistry with Kadri.

Frost built up some good will by being the best forward during preseason, and the first couple of games. He definitely needs to pick things up.

Zary is not Bennett, that’s an extremely cheap comparison.

This is not a player struggling because of inconsistency in line mates, this is a player that is flat out struggling. He’s not doing anything with his ice time. If it was a production issue due to chemistry with linemates you could argue he deserves a pass, but he’s been terrible on an individual level.

Bingo · 10-22-2025, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Monahammer

Conroy is the biggest underperformer this year.

Should have made more room for Zary up front. Probably Gridin too, as he has been by far the most offensively apt player the flames have iced this season.

Should have made room for Parekh in the back. Ridiculous to play him 12:57 minutes a night and expect that he will develop or retain confidence.

Yikes not even sure where to start with that one.

Point two is more on Huska than the GM no? And it's 7 games into a season for a 19 year old defenseman. Don't you think you're jumping to conclusions a little early? And personally I don't think Parekh has been all that good, which isn't surprising or alarming but certainly not reason to be playing him more until he gets over his skis.

Gridin had a noticeable drift in his game and time in the AHL for a 19 year old is prudent for almost any organization.

Zary has struggled. They need offence it's his role to take if he wants it.

Strange Brew · 10-22-2025, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TheScorpion

This thread has a concerning lack of Connor Zary and Morgan Frost.

Especially Frost. More is expected from him IMO and he is being put in some good positions. Most O zone starts after Coronato (who also could be better).

ForeverFlameFan · 10-22-2025, 09:27 AM

It would be easier to name the overperformers and the performers over the underperformers. Too long of a list.

ComixZone · 10-22-2025, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TheScorpion

This thread has a concerning lack of Connor Zary and Morgan Frost.

At this stage, most people have probably forgotten that Morgan Frost is even on the team. He's just not there.

TrentCrimmIndependent · 10-22-2025, 10:49 AM

Nm

Goriders · 10-22-2025, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

Our #1 C, #1 D, and #1 goaltender have all heavily underperformed through 7 games.

So has everyone else. Guess that’s why we have 1 win.

Flamesfan05 · 10-22-2025, 11:01 AM

Frost and Farabee are what they are at this point. Mediocre filler.

Concentrate on developing your own prospects instead

Goriders · 10-22-2025, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ComixZone

At this stage, most people have probably forgotten that Morgan Frost is even on the team. He's just not there.

Conroy has had a habit of looking at under-utilized or reclamation projects from other teams on the cheap.

I think it worked out with Bahl. It also worked out with Sharangovich in the first season. But some of them are starting to become a question marks.

- Frost
- Farabee
- sharangovich

At some point he’s going to have to start focusing on bigger fish and not the supporting cast. I don’t see any of our draft picks turning into first liners or top pairing D. Maybe Parekh. If the plan is to be competitive when the new arena opens that’s the segment of the roster that’s going to have to get addressed.

Lewis_D · 10-22-2025, 11:34 AM

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Conroy has had a habit of looking at under-utilized or reclamation projects from other teams on the cheap.

I think it worked out with Bahl. It also worked out with Sharangovich in the first season. But some of them are starting to become a question marks.

- Frost
- Farabee
- sharangovich

At some point he’s going to have to start focusing on bigger fish and not the supporting cast. I don’t see any of our draft picks turning into first liners or top pairing D. Maybe Parekh. If the plan is to be competitive when the new arena opens that’s the segment of the roster that’s going to have to get addressed.

I think this is true for Frost & Sharangovich. Farabee I think was more the throw-in in the Frost trade. But in hindsight, if they really wanted to just get rid of Kuzmenko they should have just taken a 7th rounder and moved on.

Strange Brew · 10-22-2025, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Lewis_D

I think this is true for Frost & Sharangovich. Farabee I think was more the throw-in in the Frost trade. But in hindsight, if they really wanted to just get rid of Kuzmenko they should have just taken a 7th rounder and moved on.

Flyers got a third for him.

Jiri Hrdina · 10-22-2025, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Flyers got a third for him.

But at the time of the Flames deal, there was no value for Kuzmenko. He was going on waivers if not for the deal.

Strange Brew · 10-22-2025, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

But at the time of the Flames deal, there was no value for Kuzmenko. He was going on waivers if not for the deal.

Why would the Flames have waived him? He only played 7 games with the Flyers, his trade value really went from zero to 3rd rounder in that time? I know he popped a little for them with 2 goals but still...

If so, pretty shrewd by the Flyers to create a third out of nothing.

ForeverFlameFan · 10-22-2025, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Why would the Flames have waived him? He only played 7 games with the Flyers, his trade value really went from zero to 3rd rounder in that time? I know he popped a little for them with 2 goals but still...

If so, pretty shrewd by the Flyers to create a third out of nothing.

The Flames like players that play a two way game. Kuzmenko wasn't that. The Flyers let him run free, pumping his value, and then flipping to the Kings who saw that letting Kuzmenko run free once more is the only way to get the best bang for your buck with Kuzmenko. He has warts. Vancouver and Calgary with defensive-minded coaches did not deem Kuzmenko a guy worthy of ice time if he wasn't playing 200 ft hockey.

That doesn't mean Kuzmenko is completely useless. I feel like our powerplay has not been that great since he left. Maybe someone with a better grasp on powerplay stats with Kuzmenko on and off our team could help with that assumption.

Jiri Hrdina · 10-22-2025, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Why would the Flames have waived him? He only played 7 games with the Flyers, his trade value really went from zero to 3rd rounder in that time? I know he popped a little for them with 2 goals but still...

If so, pretty shrewd by the Flyers to create a third out of nothing.

Timing wise perhaps he had more value at the deadline.
Philly also retained 50%.

But it was reported at the time that Calgary was about to put him on waivers when the deal came together instead.