07-02-2025, 08:14 AM
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#41
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Originally Posted by Andrew
Upside 3rd line imo. Its good contract for Tampa . Good for him. He is not skilled enough be a star. OK guy!
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This reads like a Trump tweet, I laughed
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07-02-2025, 08:18 AM
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#42
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by The Cobra
Tampa likely wasn't interested in a 1 year deal.
It ensures that Tampa is more than willing to play him potentially up the lineup because if he succeeds, they still have him cheaply.
And if he succeeds at all, his next contract will be much larger.
It also provides him with some financial stability.
The 3-year deal actually helps his upside.
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Edit: too late to the party
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Last edited by D as in David; 07-02-2025 at 08:21 AM.
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07-02-2025, 08:19 AM
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#43
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by D as in David
The three years may also discourage other teams from claiming him on waivers.
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True, or the opposite, if teams plan on playing him and hope they get a great contract going forward.
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07-02-2025, 08:37 AM
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#44
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Franchise Player
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He may have got a reality check as well, understanding that the next step for him was likely Europe. This gives him 3 years of runway, and enough guaranteed money to set himself up for life after hockey. Not with the level of wealth that most NHlers enjoy, but still more financial freedom than most of us.
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07-02-2025, 09:12 AM
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#45
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by The Cobra
Not necessarily, with a 1-year deal, Tampa has less incentive to play him, as he may well play himself out of that contract.
Tampa likely said, 3 years or nothing.
I believe his upside is increased as Tampa has every incentive to play him.
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Good players will play, especially on a cheap deal. This deal was entirely about protecting his downside if sent to the AHL. It’s an extremely rare contract.
If this was his only option, that does kind of speak volumes.
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07-02-2025, 10:38 AM
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#46
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by MissTeeks
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So here is a question...the new CBA takes effect the season after this one, correct? And my understanding is that with this contract Pelletier would be getting paid less than the new upcoming NHL minimum.
Can you do that?
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07-02-2025, 10:50 AM
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#47
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
3 years???
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There was likely a lot of interest in him. Despite what some posters were saying, he's got good pedigree and his NHL game thus far has been solid. He's a 3rd liner with top 6 upside.
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07-02-2025, 10:51 AM
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#48
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by blankall
There was likely a lot of interest in him. Despite what some posters were saying, he's got good pedigree and his NHL game thus far has been solid. He's a 3rd liner with top 6 upside.
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I like the guy but where has he shown this upside?
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07-02-2025, 10:53 AM
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#49
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
I like the guy but where has he shown this upside?
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Top AHL scorer. Still putting up points in both Calgary and Philly despite not getting great opportunities.
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07-02-2025, 10:57 AM
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#50
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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For some people the security of a 3 year deal might alleviate a lot of other things and allow them to focus on their craft. So maybe this was something Pelletier valued as opposed to betting on himself.
He's a genuinely good guy a bit like Curtis Lazar, so if he can stick around the league that long and get 5-6 years drawing a NHL wage that's carving out a nice existence. If it works out he might spend a lot of years in Tampa as one of those guys who bring more to a team than what analytics and numbers can measure.
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07-02-2025, 11:02 AM
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#51
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Originally Posted by blankall
There was likely a lot of interest in him. Despite what some posters were saying, he's got good pedigree and his NHL game thus far has been solid. He's a 3rd liner with top 6 upside.
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I don’t know. This contract locks him in for minimum salary for 3 prime years of his career
Sound like a bet on depth/AHL level expectation not any potential from both the team and himself
Even Pelletier doesn’t believe in himself lol
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07-02-2025, 11:05 AM
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#52
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Uranus
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Originally Posted by Locke
3 Years? For why?
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There were probably a couple of teams in on his services?? He's a depth NHL player with some upside. Not at all a bad move for player or team.
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07-02-2025, 11:11 AM
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#53
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
I don’t know. This contract locks him in for minimum salary for 3 prime years of his career
Sound like a bet on depth/AHL level expectation not any potential from both the team and himself
Even Pelletier doesn’t believe in himself lol
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It definitely looks like a hedge to me. If there were other offers out there, he could have probably taken a 1 or 2 year deal then been subject to at a least qualifying offer or a negotiation of a better contract next July He probably didn't want to risk not getting tendered again. This way he at least gets guaranteed money until he becomes a UFA in 3 years. It's probably what I would do in his shoes as well. He cleared waivers last season, then wasn't given a QO this offseason. Not getting a QO next July would probably be the end of the NHL road. The three year deal is the perfect opportunity to both show he can play but also hedge against the worst outcome.
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07-02-2025, 12:47 PM
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#54
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Loves Teh Chat!
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Better Tampa Bay than Edmonton.
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07-02-2025, 01:43 PM
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#55
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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Good luck in Tampa, Pelts!
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07-02-2025, 01:46 PM
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#56
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Locke
So here is a question...the new CBA takes effect the season after this one, correct? And my understanding is that with this contract Pelletier would be getting paid less than the new upcoming NHL minimum.
Can you do that?
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Those numbers align with the reported minimums in the upcoming years. $775,000 for 2025-26, $850,000 for 2026-27, and $900,000 for 2027-28.
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07-02-2025, 03:39 PM
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#57
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Mar 2017
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Just curious, does anyone know what a typical percentage of salary players pay for agent fees? (Assuming its a %, and also that it may scale proportionately)
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07-02-2025, 03:50 PM
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#58
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
I don’t know. This contract locks him in for minimum salary for 3 prime years of his career
Sound like a bet on depth/AHL level expectation not any potential from both the team and himself
Even Pelletier doesn’t believe in himself lol
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At this age, the reality is that most players are fighting for PTOs and 1 year deals. A 3 year deal to prove himself, especially with a lot of it being 1 way is a big move up for his career.
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07-02-2025, 03:53 PM
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#59
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
I like the guy but where has he shown this upside?
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Short sample size, but he did start producing before the trade - plus the PK was also good with him. (and in addition to Blankall's pointing at the AHL, which was impressive).
He will have to prove it on a much longer sample size, but that's what made me believe there could be something there.
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07-02-2025, 04:22 PM
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#60
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Even though I hate Tb, hope the best for him, unless he turns into the next StLouis. It's a chance with a good team, and he didn't show desperation, like a couple of losers that I won't mention by name.
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