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Old 06-23-2025, 06:01 PM   #41
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Old 06-23-2025, 07:04 PM   #42
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He’s no better than Zadorov, should be the same deal ish
I think he’ll be less of an adventure than Big Z was.
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Old 06-23-2025, 07:09 PM   #43
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5.5m for 6-8 years. I don't think term changes the aav as the potential payoff for the Flames and security for Bahl , on an 8 year deal, are pretty much a wash.
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Old 06-23-2025, 07:31 PM   #44
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8 x 5.25 would be my offer.
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Old 06-23-2025, 07:33 PM   #45
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If he's going to be the anchor for the Parekh pairing he'll be worth 6 or 7 million a year. I suspect that's the plan anyways. He'll get points just being the partner for Parekh.
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Old 06-23-2025, 09:18 PM   #46
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I like this guy, we should go Bahl’s to the wall and get him locked up!
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Old 06-23-2025, 09:25 PM   #47
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IMO Bahl can’t be better then your 4th best D on a true contender

I don’t know why , but I feel like last year may be a high season for him - and I loved what I saw from him

I would be hesitant to lock him up long term .

It reminds me a bit of the Sharagovich contract situation which (IMO) already looks horrible and an anchor

I would aim for a shorter contract (2 years) and still Hold some leverage and re-evaluate in a few seasons
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Max I’d offer would be 4 years @ $4.5M AAV

I don’t think he’s a guy you commit long term to. Nice player to have, not a key piece. I’d also be happy to see him traded at solid value, but I don’t see that happening.
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Old 06-23-2025, 09:38 PM   #49
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All these hmm and hawing posts about Bahl are very reminiscent of the posts when the Flames acquired him in the markstrom trade. Not expecting much and he outperformed to such a degree that when he was out of the lineup with injury it was so evident it was almost to an extreme. He's a guy you win with. I believe this to be true. Lock him up.
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IMO Bahl can’t be better then your 4th best D on a true contender

I don’t know why , but I feel like last year may be a high season for him - and I loved what I saw from him

I would be hesitant to lock him up long term .

It reminds me a bit of the Sharagovich contract situation which (IMO) already looks horrible and an anchor

I would aim for a shorter contract (2 years) and still Hold some leverage and re-evaluate in a few seasons
It isn't very often that an NHL d-man tops out after his second year in the league. Especially, the defensive-oriented ones.
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I think he continues developing. I bet Calgary provides him with the type of environment that will help him get there. I see him as a guy who is just outside 'the core' of the team, but someone who will be an important cog to the fortunes of this team moving forward. It was noticeable how much worse the Flames were defensively without him. Give him another 3-4 years, and I would bet that he will be thought of highly around the league.
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Old 06-23-2025, 09:48 PM   #52
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I believe Conroy will know enough to offer players what they are worth, no low bah bahling and make them feel welcome and respected, not nickle and dimed.

He was apprenticing for all of Gaudreaus contracts, all of Tkachuks.

I gaurantee he knew how to handle those situations but had to watch.
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Old 06-23-2025, 09:52 PM   #53
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5 years at 4M seems fair. Takes him to 30. Can’t be committing 8 years and 6 plus to players like him with limited offensive potential. He can fit into a 2nd pair role killing penalties.
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Those are some interesting comparisons I don't think he's similar to Regehr, Tanev or Zadorov except for his size. He has a good stick, and gap, he's good at clearing the front of the net, better than Z. He's a big boy, but he doesn't look for big hits and fights. His skating is good for a big man, but his offense is non-existent. I would probably compare him to Tyler Myers for now.

I think his defensive game still has room to grow, and I would be interested in watching him play with a guy like Parekh.
20 points (in 73 games) at 24 for a stay at home defenceman is pretty good. That's what Tanev had at that age. Zadorov got 20 at 22 but then didn't match it until he was 26. And never got past 22 points.
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20 points (in 73 games) at 24 for a stay at home defenceman is pretty good. That's what Tanev had at that age. Zadorov got 20 at 22 but then didn't match it until he was 26. And never got past 22 points.
That's fair, I just don't see his defensive game nearly at the same level as Tanev or Regehr. Both had amazing hockey IQ, and were elite in 1 on 1 battles. Tanev is also an elite shot blocker, while Regehr brought the tunnel of death, and the constant physicality. I see Bahl as a good D, but I don't see him carrying a D pairing defensively all by himself.

As far as the offense, I don't see the same tools Zadorov has in terms of shot, and protecting the puck while skating. I'm hopeful Bahl will find another gear defensively in his 3rd full season, and anything he manages offensively is just a bonus.

Finally, comparing him to Tyler Myers wasn't taking a shot at Bahl, I think he was a pretty good D, but his time in VAN was rather average. Surprisingly, he even put up 48 points in his first NHL season with BUF. 1066GP, 98G, 396P is a pretty good career for a D-men.
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4 years feels like a nice sweet spot as he's a difficult player to project because I don't feel there's much untapped offensive potential seeing he's never been much of a producer at any level. He does have the size teams covet and seems like a 4/5 guy that you can move up and down the lineup when needed which has value.
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That's fair, I just don't see his defensive game nearly at the same level as Tanev or Regehr. Both had amazing hockey IQ, and were elite in 1 on 1 battles. Tanev is also an elite shot blocker, while Regehr brought the tunnel of death, and the constant physicality. I see Bahl as a good D, but I don't see him carrying a D pairing defensively all by himself.

As far as the offense, I don't see the same tools Zadorov has in terms of shot, and protecting the puck while skating. I'm hopeful Bahl will find another gear defensively in his 3rd full season, and anything he manages offensively is just a bonus.

Finally, comparing him to Tyler Myers wasn't taking a shot at Bahl, I think he was a pretty good D, but his time in VAN was rather average. Surprisingly, he even put up 48 points in his first NHL season with BUF. 1066GP, 98G, 396P is a pretty good career for a D-men.
Bahl is not as flashy looking as Zadorov. But he scored just one less goal and two fewer points last year, in 8 fewer games. You are remembering Zadorov's outlier 14 goal year when his average is more like 5-6.
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Old 06-24-2025, 07:42 AM   #59
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I’d do 8 years at $5MM per.
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Last year Gustav Forsling scored 39 points and won the Stanley Cup.

That got him a $5.75 x 8 contract.

I just want to be super clear here. There are people in this thread who think that’s not a big enough contract to land Kevin Bahl on an RFA deal?
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