I'm okay with Edmonton winning, here's why........

[Josh]

Originally Posted by WhiteTiger

You can have whatever opinion you want, really...I'm just not sure why you feel the need to come to a rivals board and try to explain yourself.


Go wallow with the filth on HFOilers, where you belong.

Yep, just been waiting 22 years here so I could make a post line this

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by WhiteTiger

You can have whatever opinion you want, really...I'm just not sure why you feel the need to come to a rivals board and try to explain yourself.


Go wallow with the filth on HFOilers, where you belong.

That's part of being an oiler fan; The inherent need to impress opinions in an unsolicited manner in places where it's either not wanted (for obvious reasons) or not cared for.

Simply enjoying the fruits of their lottery balls isn't enough.

They have to go around with the audacity to spin this narrative that they actually earned this and it's a good story that people outside of their decrepit frozen shantytown need to get behind, in a thinly veiled plea for attention and validation, despite getting it constantly from the talking heads on the TV.

No bro, a few (frankly 1-2 too many) lottery balls landed in your favor, you pissed away a decade of elite talent with a parade of poor roster decisions. You resorted to fishing in the league's doghouse for talent, dabbled in some cap circumvention because of aforementioned mismanagement, jettisoned some young talent for no reason, but despite all that incompetence your lottery ball saviors finally got fed up and dragged year team to the finals in spite of your best efforts to sabotage it.

[saillias]

the only somewhat convincing reason i've heard from anyone to cheer for edmonton over florida is that the Oilers won't go to the white house

[InternationalVillager]

Originally Posted by Josh

Yep, just been waiting 22 years here so I could make a post line this

Just ignore those comments.

I don't support what you are saying but you have the right to say it. You shouldn't be getting blasted for your position. Seems to me that you've let the misery as a Flames fan get the best of you. I would say stay strong but it's a little late for that. I would recommend not watching any further hockey games, disconnecting from the sport and enjoying your other hobbies.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

It is separating the true die hard Flame fans from the casual ones.

lol your gatekeeping fandom is embarrassing.

[ForeverFlameFan]

This sure sounds like the OPs way of coping with the worst-case scenario, however, why even post about it? Edmonton does not deserve any kind of success.

[curves2000]

I actually understand what the OP is saying in a lot of ways. There's certain elements that are above and beyond Flames fan's not wanting Edmonton to win. This time it feels different. I know that is not what Flames fans (and I am diehard) wants to hear but it is. Flames fan's may not want Edmonton to win for natural reasons but what does the conversation look like if it was Toronto in the finals, the most popular/hated Canadian team?

I said it at the start of the playoffs, for me the Cup drought needs to be over. The curse needs to be broken. The fan's deserve a cup, a reward. These ****ing Canadian NHL owners are playing roulette with their fan bases. We deserve some element of reward at some point ever since the NHL made things a lot more even 21 years ago. There has to be a point in all of this other than just sucking more time and dollars from the fan bases across the country.

There should also be a pride thing at some point. The #1 hockey nation in the best league actually can't compete. It's an embarrassment and should be taken as such due to the complete and utter underperformance. A lot of my friends who are Flames fans disagree with me but when the conversation switches to describing the level of patheticness to other sports/leagues, it becomes more obvious. The NHL is in a league of it's own with the way things are market wise but a few examples being.

Imagine if America couldn't really compete in NFL football despite producing the best players? Imagine if Canada had a stronghold on Superbowl championships/playoff wins decade after decade. Imagine American's being furious with Canada for specific reasons. Would a hard core NY/LA/Boston fan of a sports league say enough is enough and be ok with their rivals winning?

Can anybody realistically see any top European soccer powerhouse not being able to compete in their #1 sport? How long until the pitchforks would come out vs the league? I could just imagine UK, German, French,Italian, Spanish fan's going decades and decades without wins and being completely handcuffed in a supposed "competitive balance" system.

Perhaps Edmonton wins or doesn't but the conversation from Canadian league executives needs to be a lot more forceful to deal with the imbalances that are beyond evident. Canadian teams need a much higher salary cap, ability to sign and retain players for longer and a lot more.

Some people may argue this but the data is beyond clear. When you actually do a deep dive into the stats, players, careers and more vs cup championships, it's shocking. Imagine a sports top players being selected by their home country clubs and doing absolutely nothing in terms of wins. Other countries wouldn't allow it but we have allowed it for far too long.

[flamesgod]

Didn’t read your post. But no.

[direwolf]

No one should ever be ok with Edmonton winning. EVER.

[Enoch Root]

I can understand people wanting a Canadian team to win (even though I don't agree), but I don't think these people are thinking through what it would look like if the Oilers did win...

greasy, obnoxious, loud and insufferable Oiler fans running around town, rubbing it in our faces - screaming, yelling and mocking us in our own beautiful city, ruining our summer

home games against them becoming a nightmare with Oiler fans emboldened to even greater levels of despicability

Sportsnet falating them nightly through next season, making it impossible to even watch


I would rather Canada never see another cup EVER, as opposed to the absolute nightmare of obnoxiousness that Oiler fans would become, in this city.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

People fine with it probably don't have to live near it.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

People fine with it probably don't have to live near it.

Well I'm in Calgary and couldn't care less. Hell the fandom seems 10x less than it did last year. There's more Oiler jerseys on game days but it's whatever.

[Josh]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

Just ignore those comments.

I don't support what you are saying but you have the right to say it. You shouldn't be getting blasted for your position. Seems to me that you've let the misery as a Flames fan get the best of you. I would say stay strong but it's a little late for that. I would recommend not watching any further hockey games, disconnecting from the sport and enjoying your other hobbies.

I haven't watched any of the playoffs and only watch flames games during the regular season. This franchise is a tie for me and the amazing childhood I got to have in Calgary (I don't feel the same way about when we moved here). If the NHL had a team here, the only games I'd go to would be the ones when the flames were in town.

I'm knee deep in little league baseball right now (coach and umpire this year) for my hobby. If the finals go to game 7, I'll watch but as a casual observer rather than a fan.

I would love to see the Flames hoist another cup before I leave this earth (Mariners WS title would be nice as well).

[Macindoc]

Oilers fans will never call it "Canada's Cup", they will call it Edmonton's Cup, and they will rub it in our faces how many more they times have won it than the Flames, and how much more recently. So, as a Canadian, I see no benefit in the Oilers winning.

[Psytic]

I’ve accepted it’s a possibility but I’m never cheering for these losers.

[InternationalVillager]

I disagree with 'Curves2000' post above.

Plenty of soccer players have gone from Brazil (Ronaldo, Ronaldihno, Neymar), Argentina (Messi, Di Maria) to Europe and won the Champions League for European football clubs. Should people from Brazil and Argentina be in uproar that their local clubs cannot compete with the major clubs in Europe? It's a non-starter discussion.

Yes- a Canadian team has not won the Cup since the Habs in 1993 however there are major Canadian contributors on almost every single Cup winning team since then. This is club sports - I do not feel any nationalist sentiments at all.

When it comes to the Blue Jays or Raptors, it makes more sense. There is only 1 MLB team or 1 NBA team from Canada in those leagues.

An American in Kawhi Leonard led the Raptors to their 2019 NBA Title. Now Canadian Shai-Gilgeous Alexander is NBA MVP and has led his team to the NBA Finals along with fellow Canadian Lu Dort. But that's not OK? You feel no Canadian pride because it's a club based in the US? As an avid basketball fan, I'm pumped that a Canadian is the NBA MVP and multiple Canadians are starters for the team favored to win in the NBA Finals.

[Josh]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

People fine with it probably don't have to live near it.

You're probably right. It won't be in my face here.

[Coach]

Barf.

[Rhett44]

I don't think it's possible to be a Flames fan and cheer for the Oilers. Or be fine with them winning, ever.

Isn't it kind of an unwritten rule that you don't cheer for a rival team. And the Oilers employ a GM who was part of covering up sexual assault. And have many players with very questionable characters.

I don't see how you could cheer for that team, even if you weren't a Flames fan.

[Locke]

Absolutely not.

1. I hate them.

2. They don't deserve it.

3. I hate them with the passion of a thousand suns.

4. If they win it is literally down to sheer dumb lottery luck.

5. Did I mention that I hate them? Because I hate them.