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[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Ruttiger

Yeah I think the bridge route is more likely. I get his track record in junior and the AHL, and his first full year was solid. But NHL history is littered with goalies who did it for a year or two but couldn't sustain it over the long hall. See: Skinner, S.

Well there’s a huge difference between the two. Skinner’s best stats in the WHL AND AHL are worse than Wolf’s worst in those two leagues. It’s easy to point to Skinner as a guy who over performed in the NHL against expectations and has just come back to reality, while Wolf underperformed and has a lot more to give.

[timbit]

But Oilers history is littered with goalies who did it for a year or two but couldn't sustain it over the long hall. See: Skinner, S. et most everyone.

Fixed your post.🙃

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Ruttiger

Yeah I think the bridge route is more likely. I get his track record in junior and the AHL, and his first full year was solid. But NHL history is littered with goalies who did it for a year or two but couldn't sustain it over the long hall. See: Skinner, S.

Wolf's track record is insane. Wins at every level. People had doubts about his ability to win in the NHL, due to his size. The Flames' coaching and scouting teams are looking at the way Wolf plays and seeing that it's just different than other goalies. He's more athletic, he has better awareness, he's in better position, etc...

It's obviously a risk to sign him long-term, but he's nothing like Skinner.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Frost has certainly showed potential, but Philly couldn't wait to get rid of him and Farabee.

While they looked good at times, they had a serious lack of production.

Go short term with Frost and see if he improves. If he doesn't, he's likely nor long for the Flames. If he does, it will cost you more.

I guess the question for Conroy is how certain is he that he will be a viable player. If he's pretty certain, he'll go longer term.

Frost had very good numbers in Philly last year vs elite competition. Farabee also had good numbers last year, but they chances say he was a bit lucky last year. This year Farabee was as good as anyone against elite competition.

I view Frost and Farabee as our future Backlund and Coleman. If we can wrap up Frost for a bit more than Backlund makes, we should sign him as long as we can.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I think it was more adding Frost so they could get out of the Farabee contract.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I think it was more adding Frost so they could get out of the Farabee contract.

If Farabee was a free agent, he would get around the same AAV but for more term. Both players contract situation is similar as I'm sure Philly looked at Frost and having 1 year to UFA as a guy they need to decide on this summer.

Philly has shown that they are willing to trade players away more aggressively than the Flames are.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

If Farabee was a free agent, he would get around the same AAV but for more term. Both players contract situation is similar as I'm sure Philly looked at Frost and having 1 year to UFA as a guy they need to decide on this summer.

Philly has shown that they are willing to trade players away more aggressively than the Flames are.

I doubt anyone would pay Farabee $5M after a 25 point season.

Calgary paid less for Frost by taking the Farabee contract.

[Vinsta13]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I doubt anyone would pay Farabee $5M after a 25 point season.

Calgary paid less for Frost by taking the Farabee contract.

If I recall I thought the original trade was Kuzmenko + pick for Frost and Kuzmenko was held out of the lineup.

During the game Philly offered Farabee and Conroy gave Pelts as they were similar position. That's why Pelts was pulled out.

Trade was:
Frost for Kuzmenko + pick
Farabee for Pelts

[Savvy27]

Coronato - 2 years x $4.0M
Zary - 1 year x $3.5M
Frost - 1 year x $3.5M
Bahl - 6 years x $5.5M
Wolf - 8 years x 8.5M
Klapka - 2 years x 1.75M
Kirkland - 1 year x $1.25M
Vladar - 2 years x 2.75M

I'm not very sold on Frost and wouldn't be willing to offer him term. He did some things well but he was on pace for around 30 points while playing top 6 and on the first powerplay. The Flames have other players in the system who can fill in as middle six offensive players and I see no reason to lock in without him showing he can be a reliable top 6 producer

I would consider signing Zary long term but the dollars would stay low until he's proven he can stay healthy and produce. His camp would be looking for more money over term than I'd be willing to offer.

Bahl makes sense to lock down. He had a solid development year and I think he is a good 4-5. Size, length, defensive acumen, and you get him for his prime. Long term for me.

Wolf would be extending after this season and I expect him to be a top 10 goalie. I'd offer him near the Swayman contract.

Klapka looks like he can be a player and doesn't have much leverage. Two years gives him some security and he can cash in next deal if he keeps up his play from the end of the season

Kirkland - I don't think it makes a ton of sense to sign him other than as a nice gesture to someone having a tough season due to injury. If anything I would offer him a do over.

Vladar - this offer may not be enough to get him to sign before exploring free agency, I don't think they should be paying a premium for anything other than first liners.

Coronato - I really like the player and would be willing to offer term and money, but I expect his camp will want to bridge the deal and go big after a few more big goal scoring seasons.

[FBI]

Alright who picked Coronato 7 x 6.5?

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Buff

Coronato 7x7

pretty good guess. Take a bow.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by devo22

pretty good guess. Take a bow.