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Old 04-27-2025, 12:44 PM   #41
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The police chief just did an update on the news, so yes, it was updated I guess.
I don't know if the first part you're mentioning was a direct quote from VPD.

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“I can also tell you that the person we have in custody does have a significant history with police and medical professionals with mental health,” said Rai.
The first part was a direct quote from the media scrum last night just after midnight. I don’t think being vague about it at first should be held against them though. Information needs to be vetted and everything was still unfolding.
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Senseless and sad.
Just no other words, happens far too often.
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It's premature to assume this but my experience with both the Asian and South East Asian communities is they desperately try to keep any mental health or behavioral issues within the family, there are a tiny number of Asian kids in the system because it is considered shameful to have a kid with issues in the first place and doubly so to allow 'outsiders' to know about it so no matter what behaviors they exhibit the family will do anything to keep it quiet, usually this just means these kids live their sad lives in their parents basement though
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So he'll be back on the streets in a few years. Lovely. Absolutely heinous, I can't imagine what those families are going through right now.
But but he's fine as long as he takes his meds, no reason to keep him locked up at all. #stupidcanadianjusticesystem
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So he'll be back on the streets in a few years. Lovely. Absolutely heinous, I can't imagine what those families are going through right now.
Yep, just like the Greyhound beheader and eyeball eater…
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Listening to this right now and there is a huge emphasis on the questions and discussions about mental health care. One reporter asked specifically about Schizophrenia which surprised me because it was the first time I heard that angle come up regarding this incident. Not sure if the reporter knows something the general public doesn't. They said they could not comment, but went on to talk a while about people needing help and not getting it, and also mentioned substance use disorder. They fell short of saying that was the issue hear, but the fact they talked about it so much during this presser makes me think they are saying it without actually saying it.

It was also mentioned that the police had an interaction with the suspect as recently as the day before the festival and then another one back on March this year.
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It's premature to assume this but my experience with both the Asian and South East Asian communities is they desperately try to keep any mental health or behavioral issues within the family, there are a tiny number of Asian kids in the system because it is considered shameful to have a kid with issues in the first place and doubly so to allow 'outsiders' to know about it so no matter what behaviors they exhibit the family will do anything to keep it quiet, usually this just means these kids live their sad lives in their parents basement though

Your definitely correct about this but I will expand on that certain cultures try and leave no stone unturned when it comes to getting their family members help that is required. It's a family level situation to try and get the concerns under control for the benefit of the individual. People slip threw the cracks for sure but there is a higher emphasis on really trying to get to the bottom of the problem and that sometimes is through forced measures.
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It was also mentioned that the police had an interaction with the suspect as recently as the day before the festival and then another one back on March this year.
Yikes. That's going to be put under a microscope for sure (and rightfully so).
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Or is it Carmen's Hoes?
Great name for band/ garden supply/pub.
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My heart sank when I heard this news. It hits close to home for me as I used to live not far from the location but also during my time in Vancouver I had the chance to meet some great folks in the Filipino community over there - all of who are just such generous, caring, and friendly people.

It truly is disturbing how common these car related crowd attacks are becoming, especially with the lack of discussion & emphasis around them in mainstream media. It's interesting how the one thing they always jump on to confirm is whether it's a terrorist attack or not to ease the concerns of public opinion.. I think it's pretty safe to say at this point your average citizen is more concerned about incels and/or dangerous, mentally unstable people (who are often 'known by police') in their community than they are about terrorists.
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Great name for band/ garden supply/pub.
/Carmen Sandiego's first year trainees.
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https://vancouversun.com/news/driver...u-lapu-tragedy

Driver charged with 8 counts of murder in Vancouver's Lapu Lapu Day tragedy

Kai-ji Adam Lo, charged Sunday with eight counts of murder, had dozens of interactions with police related to his deteriorating mental health. His own brother was murdered last year and his mom later attempted suicide

Vancouver Police said that more charges are expected as the investigation continues. And they said Sunday that some of the victims of the unprecedented slayings remain unidentified.

Sources told Postmedia that a family member had contacted a hospital psych ward hours before Sunday’s attack because of Lo’s deteriorating mental health. It’s not known what action, if any, was taken. He was believed to be suffering from delusions and paranoia.


Police said they’ve had significant interactions with Lo — as did health care professionals — due to his mental health issues. Some were recent.



https://globalnews.ca/news/11152310/...harged-murder/

Lo had an interaction with police on April 25, one day before the tragedy, but officials have not disclosed details about that incident, only saying that it did not warrant a visit to the hospital.

The victims in the case, none of whom have been identified, range in age from five to 65 years old.
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Five years old
I was really hoping no children; devastating.
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Kai-ji Adam Lo, charged Sunday with eight counts of murder, had dozens of interactions with police related to his deteriorating mental health. His own brother was murdered last year and his mom later attempted suicide

Sources told Postmedia that a family member had contacted a hospital psych ward hours before Sunday’s attack because of Lo’s deteriorating mental health. It’s not known what action, if any, was taken. He was believed to be suffering from delusions and paranoia.[/I]

Police said they’ve had significant interactions with Lo — as did health care professionals — due to his mental health issues. Some were recent.


[I]Lo had an interaction with police on April 25, one day before the tragedy, but officials have not disclosed details about that incident, only saying that it did not warrant a visit to the hospital.
How many incidents like these must it take before society as a whole treats mental health correctly with real corrective and preventative action to help individuals in real need that may not be able to make that decision for themselves? This time it happened to be children included.

All the warning signs are there, and there are many, many, many more like him that one day will just snap. He is absolutely a victim of our failed system in treating mentally ill and mentally distraught, I've made many comments on it in the past.

Absolute tragedy that could have and should been avoided and being in a very similar situation as those family members that have tried to help, the absolute despair of reaching out pleading for help with no one listening only to see the worst fears come true must be devastating.

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Truly devastating
Time to do like they do here in America. Bring in city heavy equipment to block all possible vehicle entries to the public area where X is taking place. Doesn't stop the shooters here I guess
Very sad
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How many incidents like these must it take before society as a whole treats mental health correctly with real corrective and preventative action to help individuals in real need that may not be able to make that decision for themselves? This time it happened to be children included.

All the warning signs are there, and there are many, many, many more like him that one day will just snap. He is absolutely a victim of our failed system in treating mentally ill and mentally distraught, I've made many comments on it in the past.

Absolute tragedy that could have and should been avoided and being in a very similar situation as those family members that have tried to help, the absolute despair of reaching out pleading for help with no one listening only to see the worst fears come true must be devastating.
Obviously many more because nobody wants taxes to go up to pay for what’s needed.

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Truly devastating
Time to do like they do here in America. Bring in city heavy equipment to block all possible vehicle entries to the public area where X is taking place. Doesn't stop the shooters here I guess
Very sad
Concrete barriers and trucks blocking any access will prevent this.

Lilac fest is in a couple weeks. Hopefully they take such measures.
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But but he's fine as long as he takes his meds, no reason to keep him locked up at all. #stupidcanadianjusticesystem
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Yep, just like the Greyhound beheader and eyeball eater…
Is there lots of data points of people who receive those sorts of diagnoses/judgements reoffending?
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Our mental health system is completely broken.

I think some people here know what I do. We take legitimately mental ill people to the hospital all the time, under the mental health act, and often times they are out within a few hours. And then it happens again the next night. And it’s not even the hospitals fault. There is nowhere for most of these people to go. So few people actually end up in an actual psychiatric facility. Take a look at our current homeless situation. It’s all mental health and addiction. We are in the midst of an absolute crisis and nobody cares enough to actually dedicate the money required to fix the problem. So many more people need to be institutionalized and it seems as though, based on vague comments, that this is likely another example of that. Some people just can’t live safely in society.
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