Would you rather? - With Results (bye bye Rooney)

[kyuss275]

If you can get Anderson at 6x6 you have no choice but to sign him. The reality is that will never happen. My guess it’s going to cost 8x8. That’s why I say trade him.

I would also see if Hanley would sign a cheap 1 year contract. I thought he played pretty solid this year. Would have no problem with him as our 7th dman.

[TheScorpion]

My takes:

1. Trade Andersson in the off season or sign him for something reasonable like 7x7 or 6x6?

I'd probably keep Rasmus if those were the numbers but they won't be, so I'd trade him and sign a LHD in UFA.

2. Trade Coleman or have him be a staple on the 3rd4th line?

Trade him. Too many wingers in the org and he's the natural candidate to go.

3. Trade Backlund or have him be a staple on the 3rd/4th line?

Keep him until he retires.

4. Keep Rooney or replace him with someone from the farm?

Goodbye.

5. Stay quiet or go after a UFA?

I think they'll go after a couple mid-tier guys, especially on left defence.

6. Keep Pachal or trade him?

Keep him for now but I could see him being dangled when/if Brzustewicz becomes a full-timer. Good stopgap.

7. Keep Bean or trade him?

Trade him/send him to the Wranglers. Not a fan.

8. Keep Hanley or trade him?

Keep him if it's reasonable for a year or two — anything over $1.5m and he can go.

9. Keep Miromanov or trade him?

Keep him as the #8. He's fine in a depth role.

10. Keep Parekh in the NHL or send back to junior?

Keep in the NHL for sure.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

If you can get Anderson at 6x6 you have no choice but to sign him. The reality is that will never happen. My guess it’s going to cost 8x8. That’s why I say trade him.

I would also see if Hanley would sign a cheap 1 year contract. I thought he played pretty solid this year. Would have no problem with him as our 7th dman.

6x6 i would lean to keeping him but dont disagree i think he wants closer to nine. Even on the 6x i would be nervous i just dont think he ages well.

[CsInMyBlood]

No point in signing Andersson at all especially Weegar here to mentor the young guys knocking on the door.

It would be a big mistake.

[Groot]

1) Trade Andersson as it's best asset management
2) Trade Coleman as we have two many middle-6 forwards and a younger player can take his spot and maybe outperform
3) Keep Backlund as mentor and to usher younger players into the league.
4) Let Rooney walk as he's a UFA and blocks a younger player.
5) Go after a LD UFA if the right/term price is available. Of big fish, only Marner is of interest and he won't be coming here so fill spots internally with youth.
6) Keep Pachal, he's a serviceable bottom pair defenseman, still young and signed for 1 more year for cheap.
7) Trade Bean if you can find a taker or waive him and send him to Wranglers. Doubtful he gets claimed and he's a depth piece for injuries.
8) Let Hanley walk he's a UFA.
9) Waive Miromanov and send to Wranglers. Can be a depth piece with inuries. He won't be traded for or claimed and if he does get claimed, oh well.
10) Parkeh starts the season with Bahl and makes an excellent pairing all season.

[N-E-B]

I’m 50/50 on Andersson. I think I’d be okay with whatever they do there.

This is probably a hot take, and I love the guy, but I’m ready to move on from Backlund. This team needs to embrace youth and hand the team over. I also would like Backlund to have a few shots at a cup. I think it’s best for both sides if he leaves. Again, love the guy, but it’s time.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by FBI

Curious on some consensus opinions here:

Would you rather?

1. Trade Andersson in the off season or sign him for something reasonable like 7x7 or 6x6?

Wait until next deadline. Decide then.

2. Trade Coleman or have him be a staple on the 3rd4th line?

Keep Coleman. He’s a great mentor.

3. Trade Backlund or have him be a staple on the 3rd/4th line?

Keep Backlund. He should retire here. Unless he wants out. Then trade at deadline.

4. Keep Rooney or replace him with someone from the farm?

Replace with Kirkland if healed or Morton.

5. Stay quiet or go after a UFA?

Quiet

6. Keep Pachal or trade him?

Keep

7. Keep Bean or trade him?

Replace with a wrangler D.

8. Keep Hanley or trade him?

Keep

9. Keep Miromanov or trade him?

Trade if you can.

10. Keep Parekh in the NHL or send back to junior?

NHL

Here are mine:
#1. trade him. #2 and #3 Keep them for the 4th line.
#4. Someone from farm. #5. Stay quiet. #6. Keep
#7. Trade #8. Keep #9. Trade #10. Play in NHL

Answered in quote

[Snuffleupagus]

Andersson is a tough one, good player when healthy, great teammate and loves the city but in the end it's a business and I don't think it's wise to sign him to anything over $5.5 with our RS D's seemingly ready to make the jump.

Not likely he would take anything close to $5.5 so trade him at the draft for solid shutdown LS D and a good pick is my opinion.

[Caged Great]

Would you rather?

1. Trade Andersson in the off season or sign him for something reasonable like 7x7 or 6x6?

Andersson is my favourite person on the Flames team. His attitude and demeanour is exactly what a winning team needs. Normally I would be all for keeping him. However, the Flames where they are at and where Andersson is in his career, it makes 100% sense to trade him. Especially when you consider that Parekh and Brzustewicz are basically NHL ready and needing spots.

For me, I'd see what you can get from any of the contending teams out there and see if you can move him for a good return. Ideally you would get a 1st and a prospect of some sort ala the Carlo trade to Toronto.


2. Trade Coleman or have him be a staple on the 3rd4th line?

The acquistion of Joel Farabee put the writing on the wall for Coleman and this team. You can't really have two of the same player playing the same role. Go with the younger guy, and trade Coleman for a 2nd + as there will be a number of teams looking for a defensively responsible two way player.

3. Trade Backlund or have him be a staple on the 3rd/4th line?

I think you keep Backlund unless he asks to be moved. He should not relied on to be a 2nd line C moving forward. The Flames need to move Backs down the lineup due to getting better players ahead of him. His leadership is helping the young players on the team.

4. Keep Rooney or replace him with someone from the farm?

Rooney is an adequate 4th line C. If the Flames can get another vet that's an upgrade to the 4th line C, that would be great. If Morton forces his way onto the roster, that is also good.

5. Stay quiet or go after a UFA?

I think the Flames should get a veteran D-man that's an upgrade on Bean/Hanley/Pachal. Assuming that Andersson gets dealt, and Parekh makes the team with Brz in the conversation, then they will need another short term top 4 D. Bahl and Parekh will probably stay together long term, so having a quality partner for Weegar is necessary. I would not go more than 3 years on a D-man right now. Too many up and comers.

6. Keep Pachal or trade him?

If someone wants Pachal and is willing to give up a 3rd +, sure. If not, he's a good 6/7.

7. Keep Bean or trade him?

Next's year's #7

8. Keep Hanley or trade him?

Not necessary despite his great season. Hope he gets paid this off season.

9. Keep Miromanov or trade him?

No chance he's back.

10. Keep Parekh in the NHL or send back to junior?

NHL.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

Would you rather?

1. Trade Andersson in the off season or sign him for something reasonable like 7x7 or 6x6?

Andersson is my favourite person on the Flames team. His attitude and demeanour is exactly what a winning team needs. Normally I would be all for keeping him. However, the Flames where they are at and where Andersson is in his career, it makes 100% sense to trade him. Especially when you consider that Parekh and Brzustewicz are basically NHL ready and needing spots.

For me, I'd see what you can get from any of the contending teams out there and see if you can move him for a good return. Ideally you would get a 1st and a prospect of some sort ala the Carlo trade to Toronto.


2. Trade Coleman or have him be a staple on the 3rd4th line?

The acquistion of Joel Farabee put the writing on the wall for Coleman and this team. You can't really have two of the same player playing the same role. Go with the younger guy, and trade Coleman for a 2nd + as there will be a number of teams looking for a defensively responsible two way player.

3. Trade Backlund or have him be a staple on the 3rd/4th line?

I think you keep Backlund unless he asks to be moved. He should not relied on to be a 2nd line C moving forward. The Flames need to move Backs down the lineup due to getting better players ahead of him. His leadership is helping the young players on the team.

4. Keep Rooney or replace him with someone from the farm?

Rooney is an adequate 4th line C. If the Flames can get another vet that's an upgrade to the 4th line C, that would be great. If Morton forces his way onto the roster, that is also good.

5. Stay quiet or go after a UFA?

I think the Flames should get a veteran D-man that's an upgrade on Bean/Hanley/Pachal. Assuming that Andersson gets dealt, and Parekh makes the team with Brz in the conversation, then they will need another short term top 4 D. Bahl and Parekh will probably stay together long term, so having a quality partner for Weegar is necessary. I would not go more than 3 years on a D-man right now. Too many up and comers.

6. Keep Pachal or trade him?

If someone wants Pachal and is willing to give up a 3rd +, sure. If not, he's a good 6/7.

7. Keep Bean or trade him?

Next's year's #7

8. Keep Hanley or trade him?

Not necessary despite his great season. Hope he gets paid this off season.

9. Keep Miromanov or trade him?

No chance he's back.

10. Keep Parekh in the NHL or send back to junior?

NHL.

Trade anderson. Your not getting him 6x6, launch Rooney into the sun for a AHL guy, trade or waive bean , you can have Farabee and Coleman both especially If they are on the same line. Coleman value to the youth including Farabee is invaluable. Was with Tampa when the almost 3 peated . You want that for the kids to learn from especially if you think Farabee is the same type player. You know how you get a prime aged Coleman ? You have Coleman mentor a 25 year old version of himself as a 33 year old. By the time Coleman contract is up in 2 years Farabee will be just turned 27 . You have that player mentor him to the start of his prime years when Coleman was winning back to back cups.

You staple backlund on the 3rd or 4th line. He's earned it . Like Dustin brown on the land kings. Dude has earned retirement jer for on and off Ice contributions .

You go big name fishing in UFA for 1 maybe 2 guys you want. Basically if you can't land your guy or 2nd guy you stand pat. No panick or consolation pickups. You get your guy or 2 or you don't. With the most cap space in the leugue you take a run at Marner,boeser or Ehlers .I don't know do you offer Sam Bennet a second go Round? I wouldn't thinknso since he got a raw deal here but didnt stop ,,,Lomberg from coming back..I guess you throw an offer out any ways 16 ton28 more goals aa year and we don't see this type of finish in standings for a while . Bennett Imo will age th like kadri Pick 2 out of the 4and if that sewers go bold and offer sheet a Mactavish really any of the Ducka ufas. Maybe take a run at.knies or Roberton as rfas in Toronto? Take a run at possibly some of the 6 reasons in Buffalo.? Lots of options for the age group and all those teams I just mentioned plays are in the majority of c and the wingers we need.

[Scooter]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Of course I think the Flames need to do what is necessary to get a franchise center.

But they're not going to do that. Otherwise, I think the Flames have too much turnover in general - keep the roster static for the most part.

Miromanov and Rooney can go, Bean is borderline. I kind of hope Vladar stays.

After watching the Wranglers 2 goalies yesterday I hope Conroy resigns Vladar as backup next year!

[reddude]

1) you still need to make cap floor if you can replace Rasmus with a better Ufa doubt it Ekblad injury prone may cost more or same some other options but if contract is 7x7 might be not bad my worry is he is slow, and contract might not age well.
2)Coleman keep him duration of contract unless he wants to go.
3) Backs one year to go and can't trade your Captain bad message for vets just slowly cut his minutes and again if he wants to move at deadline give him his wish.
4)I don't even know why this is brought up good bye Morton or Kirkland on a 1 year deal replaces that.
5)there are a few veteran d available want someone to play with Weegs especially if they move Rasmus or another Goalie for camp I suspect Vladar wants to play more so he will move on and if we could get a forward that can plat top 6 maybe.
6) Pacal fills a void and has a decent contract we should keep him for now.
7) Bean maybe could move him just not good enough Kuznetsov and Soloyov need to get an opportunity see what we have.
8) I think Hanley showed well and surprised all of us like I said above we have some d coming and 34 year old dman might get a 2 yr deal somewhere and good for him 1 yr 1.2 m maybe???
9) Miromanov just doesn't cut it for me or for this organization try and see if you can move him or keep for training camp and waive him and either get picked up or play for the Wranglers.
10) let him play with Bahl he will make mistakes but wow he will be fun to watch.

[Enoch Root]

Trade Andersson and grab a defenseman in free agency to help solidify the group.

Parekh and Brzustewicz are the future on the right side, and even though they aren't quite ready to be handed the keys, we absolutely do not want to commit big dollars to Andersson, long term. So get some assets for him and find a way to shore things up for a couple years.

[cannon7]

I think Andersson's trade value is at a low right now, so trading him in the offseason would be bad asset management. Better to let him play another season and hope he bounces back by the trade deadline. Unless , given his low trade value, he's willing to sign for a hometown discount.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by cannon7

I think Andersson's trade value is at a low right now, so trading him in the offseason would be bad asset management. Better to let him play another season and hope he bounces back by the trade deadline. Unless , given his low trade value, he's willing to sign for a hometown discount.

And what if he has another mediocre year? Yes he was injured but not the whole time.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Fan69

And what if he has another mediocre year? Yes he was injured but not the whole time.

If you sell low just from the fear of going even lower, you'll take a loss on every sale.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

If you sell low just from the fear of going even lower, you'll take a loss on every sale.

Trade him now you are not selling low everyone will know he was injured wait another year and you will remove doubt.

Love the player still dont think he ages well.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Fan69

Trade him now you are not selling low everyone will know he was injured wait another year and you will remove doubt.

If you wait another year, he's a UFA.

Yes, everyone knows he's injured. Nobody knows exactly how much of his declining play was due to injury and how much was due to other factors. If you try to sell him now, teams are liable to bid based on the assumption that he's not going to recover to anything better than he was this past year. If he comes back in September and shows that he's made a full recovery, his value is bound to improve. It won't get any worse before the start of next season.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Scooter

After watching the Wranglers 2 goalies yesterday I hope Conroy resigns Vladar as backup next year!

Haha! We have Sergeev coming soon. That should help.

[TheDebaser]

I definitely am not antsy to trade Rasmus. Knowing that Weegs can play the left side gives us tons of options.

Bahl-Ras
Weegs-Parekh/Bru

As much as I'd like for Bru and Parekh to step into our top pair, I don't see anything wrong with this setup. It looks strong to me. It also gives these very young men a chance to develop with a safety net.

Imagine if we trade Ras and Weegs gets injured:

Bahl-Parekh
Hanley-Bru

Looks like a tough assignment to me.