Your not keeping Chucky out of the lineup with some low level injury, he is for sure hurt and probably quite badly. What may be happening is that rather than really rush back for the regular season, make some tweaks to the lineup/trade deadline, give him the extra week or so to get healthy and ready if need be for a long playoff run.
Florida is looking to go deep and back to back final appearances take a serious toll on this guys
This isn’t a fake injury they have NHL doctors who look at them. Are the milking the return to play probably but it’s likely a few weeks anyways.
Just like with Stone. Vegas didn’t gameplan to injure him and put him on LTIR. They almost missed the playoffs.
These guys are difference makers.
I can guarantee you that he's played through significantly worse injuries. He would be ready to return before the playoffs if this didn't give the Canes the ability to use the cap relief to bring in extra help worth the equivalent of his salary.
I did find your point that the NHL has doctors who assess players who go on LTIR revealing. It's the first time I ever heard of this, I thought it was always the team doctors who made that call.
Edit: are you sure about that? Everything I have read states that it is the team doctor who signs off on LTIR. And once a player is on LTIR, the league has not followed any sort of standard about what a team has to do if a player is medically fit to return but they no longer have cap space because they used the LTIR to bring in other players and exceed the salary cap.
This isn’t a fake injury they have NHL doctors who look at them. Are the milking the return to play probably but it’s likely a few weeks anyways.
Just like with Stone. Vegas didn’t gameplan to injure him and put him on LTIR. They almost missed the playoffs.
These guys are difference makers.
No they don't. The team doctors look at them, the NHL does not have doctors investigate these injuries. It's something they need to implement in the future. All of these players that have done the LTIR return for game 1 were skating well ahead of that game. You can't be naive enough to believe they are suddenly healthy for game 1? Or maybe you are.
I can guarantee you that he's played through significantly worse injuries. He would be ready to return before the playoffs if this didn't give the Canes the ability to use the cap relief to bring in extra help worth the equivalent of his salary.
I did find your point that the NHL has doctors who assess players who go on LTIR revealing. It's the first time I ever heard of this, I thought it was always the team doctors who made that call.
Edit: are you sure about that? Everything I have read states that it is the team doctor who signs off on LTIR. And once a player is on LTIR, the league has not followed any sort of standard about what a team has to do if a player is medically fit to return but they no longer have cap space because they used the LTIR to bring in other players and exceed the salary cap.
Sorry I thought the NHL had Drs look at the reports and sign off on this.
If it’s a matter of a few weeks I can see them doing this. Why wouldn’t you? But teams exaggerating injuries when the playoff battle begins so they can stash a guy on LTIR that’s a difference maker I doubt that.
I’m thinking that the next time an nhl doctor orders a player off of LTIR will be the first time.
I think that there’s an assumption that no team would willingly not play their best players if available.
And yet, there’s a miracle Gatorade machine dispensing magic jelly beans so that previously season threatening injuries are healed up for game one. A miracle.
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Sorry I thought the NHL had Drs look at the reports and sign off on this.
If it’s a matter of a few weeks I can see them doing this. Why wouldn’t you? But teams exaggerating injuries when the playoff battle begins so they can stash a guy on LTIR that’s a difference maker I doubt that.
Kucherov? Stone? And now Tkachuk? Are they not difference makers? Panthers are in no danger of missing the playoffs, even less so if they use Tkachuk's salary to strengthen their roster even further, then exceed the cap by $10M in the playoffs because it no longer matters at that point.
Tkachuk is injured obviously he missed the championship game. Its the recovery timeline that is always suspect. Doctors go by what you tell them...you think if Mark Stone says my back really hurts when I do this the doctor is gonna is gonna say "bull####! you get out there and hit someone!"
I ain't even mad its the NHL that allows it to happen lets just not pretend there is some amazing system of checks and balances because its all BS. Not sure why they just don't make playoff rosters be cap compliant.
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Kucherov? Stone? And now Tkachuk? Are they not difference makers? Canes are in no danger of missing the playoffs, even less so if they use Tkachuk's salary to strengthen their roster even further, then exceed the cap by $10M in the playoffs because it no longer matters at that point.
Fyi Tkachuk is on the Panthers not Canes lol. If he was on the Canes our team looks a lot different today.
No but Las Vegas was a playoff battle when they put stone on LTIR. Kucherov was coming off hip surgery.
Are these guys ready to come back a few weeks before the playoffs. Most likely but it would be dumb not to take advantage of the loophole or whatever. I think some people think these are 2-4 week injuries or something. They are legit injuries.
Plus I don’t mind them doing it. All the teams around the Oilers get better in case the unthinkable happens again.
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He's played a lot of hockey over the last three seasons. Especially when you consider the physical style he plays. A fully rested and recovered Tkachuck for the playoffs sounds pretty good, if you're the Panthers.
Tkachuk is injured obviously he missed the championship game. Its the recovery timeline that is always suspect. Doctors go by what you tell them...you think if Mark Stone says my back really hurts when I do this the doctor is gonna is gonna say "bull####! you get out there and hit someone!"
I ain't even mad its the NHL that allows it to happen lets just not pretend there is some amazing system of checks and balances because its all BS. Not sure why they just don't make playoff rosters be cap compliant.
No cap in the playoffs drives me nuts. Like how important is it to have an even playing field, when it all just goes out the window once the real hockey starts?
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I think Coleman could be a good fit for the Panthers, especially with retention. Obviously not a replacement for Tkachuk, but a good fit overall.
Good point. They could take him at full salary although I suspect the Panthers are now looking for rentals so they don't have to carry the cap hit next year.
It's understandable why the league didn't want to participate in the Olympics.
The reffing in the Olympics is butter soft. They would have ejected all the players who fought from the tournament if it was found the fights were staged or pre planned they could even eject the entire team. Not to mention they call every stick infraction and heavy hit.
Tkachuk is injured obviously he missed the championship game. Its the recovery timeline that is always suspect. Doctors go by what you tell them...you think if Mark Stone says my back really hurts when I do this the doctor is gonna is gonna say "bull####! you get out there and hit someone!"
I ain't even mad its the NHL that allows it to happen lets just not pretend there is some amazing system of checks and balances because its all BS. Not sure why they just don't make playoff rosters be cap compliant.
Yep. At a minimum the team that you ice for the game should be cap compliant.
