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[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Management watches every game and every home practice of the Wranglers. How can fans not understand this? Do you think the coaching staff of the Flames have no idea what's going on with the Wranglers and who is down there?

Are you just trying to argue for no reason? Did I say they don't watch games.

You think it would be easier to watch and scout when they have 10 days off and not preparing the NHL team to play every other day.

[SuperMatt18]

Kuzmenko shouldn't have been the one to come out IMO.

Duehr and Rooney have both been pretty bad the last 15 games or so.

Last 15 games:

Duehr: 34.9% xGF, 2 GF, 5 GA

Rooney: 35.2% xGF, 3 GF, 9 GA

Kuzmenko: 58.7% xGF, 2 GF, 3 GA

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Are you just trying to argue for no reason? Did I say they don't watch games.

You think it would be easier to watch and scout when they have 10 days off and not preparing the NHL team to play every other day.

LOL - look in the mirror.

They are at the rink all day every day. Think about it a bit, before you post.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Don't agree with that at all.

I think he's proven to be the perfect stay at home partner for Weegar, and has pretty much won the top four job away from Miromanov.

The two together have xGA60 of 1.52 / 60 and actual goals against of 1.28 / 60.

xGF% as a pair at 66.5% (next closest is 53%)

League wide if you look at pairings that have 100 or minutes together they are 3rd.

Air tight pair.

Give the man credit. He's not sexy, but he keeps it simple and lets Weegar fly.

They are playing well as a pair.

I do think Weegar is like our Backlund on the back end you put anyone with him and they do well.

Didn't he also have good numbers with Miromanov?

[Reggie Dunlop]

[The Yen Man]

Hate these Amazon Prime games, always means someone in our family group can't watch the game since we share our Prime account, and they only let 2 concurrent streaming of live events. Guess I'll be skipping the game tonight.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Kuzmenko shouldn't have been the one to come out IMO.

Duehr and Rooney have both been pretty bad the last 15 games or so.

Last 15 games:

Duehr: 34.9% xGF, 2 GF, 5 GA

Rooney: 35.2% xGF, 3 GF, 9 GA

Kuzmenko: 58.7% xGF, 2 GF, 3 GA

Am I reading that right, Rooney has been on ice for 9 goals against?

[Toonage]

I believe the coach likes him on the PK but that 4L takes a beating do they not?

Kuzmenko on 3L with Pelletier on the 4L may be the way to go with the current roster. Which probably isn't great either.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

It's a full moon tonight, I hope Wolf is starting!

Not only is it a full moon tonight, but it is known as the Wolf Moon. Starting Vladar would be a travesty!

[Toonage]

Clap for the Wolf Moon.

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by Shazam

Am I reading that right, Rooney has been on ice for 9 goals against?

9 goals against at five on five, yes. 16 goals against at all strengths.

Giving up a goal per game as a 4th liner/pker playing 9 minutes a night is just downright awful stuff. His goals against per 60 over that time frame is 6.17...

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

They are playing well as a pair.

I do think Weegar is like our Backlund on the back end you put anyone with him and they do well.

Didn't he also have good numbers with Miromanov?

Nope.

With Miromanov he's 45.9% xGF, and xGA60 of 2.43 / 60

Not even close.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

9 goals against at five on five, yes. 16 goals against at all strengths.

Giving up a goal per game as a 4th liner/pker playing 9 minutes a night is just downright awful stuff. His goals against per 60 over that time frame is 6.17...

Yup.

The fact he hasn't seen the press box when the 4th line (9 GA) and PK (7 GA) have been bleeding goals with him on the ice over the last 15 games is a bit remarkable.

I know part of it is just because we don't have any better options for a responsible 4th line C but I'm at the point where I'm not sure Morton or Clark Bishop could be any worse.

[Bingo]

At this point I have to concur on the Rooney confusion.

Maybe they don't want to have two guys trying to learn the position at the same time?

But the fourth line is getting completely filled in and Rooney is 2nd last for forwards in xGA60 while on the PK, so he's not a specialist either.

Now the last place player is Backlund, so really it's the top pair of PK. Maybe that position (more time / against the opposition's first unit) would hurt a replacement equally as much or more?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Yup.

The fact he hasn't seen the press box when the 4th line (9 GA) and PK (7 GA) have been bleeding goals with him on the ice over the last 15 games is a bit remarkable.

I know part of it is just because we don't have any better options for a responsible 4th line C but I'm at the point where I'm not sure Morton or Clark Bishop could be any worse.

He is also 47% on faceoffs, if he was just good at that it would make sense to keep him in. I know faceoffs are a team wide problem, but Rooney just isn't good at anything.

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Nope.

With Miromanov he's 45.9% xGF, and xGA60 of 2.43 / 60

Not even close.

In fairness, Miromanov had an equally impressive run with Weegar down the stretch last year. That's the thing with the likes of Miromanov, Hanley, Bean, etc.. They don't really have the ability to sustain that level of play over a large sample size which is why they are, and have been NHL tweeners to date.

Ride it while it's hot, no doubt, but nobody should expect it to be a long term solution.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

In the future world, when AI controls everything and humans are mere servants, men will be in the front, and women will be in the back.

But we'll all be very happy, so there's that.

[Royle9]

Hope Bedard doesnt look soft as baby #### again.
Dont be a McDavid.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Bingo

At this point I have to concur on the Rooney confusion.

Maybe they don't want to have two guys trying to learn the position at the same time?

But the fourth line is getting completely filled in and Rooney is 2nd last for forwards in xGA60 while on the PK, so he's not a specialist either.

Now the last place player is Backlund, so really it's the top pair of PK. Maybe that position (more time / against the opposition's first unit) would hurt a replacement equally as much or more?

Yeah the 9 GA at 5v5 is way more alarming than the PK number for Rooney personally.

The PK number is more an indictment of the coaching staff IMO, because I don't understand why they are so deadset on forcing Backlund-Rooney as a PK pair that hasn't really seemed to work very well together.

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

He is also 47% on faceoffs, if he was just good at that it would make sense to keep him in. I know faceoffs are a team wide problem, but Rooney just isn't good at anything.

Yeah he's really not been great in any role this season.

Not a strong FO guy, 5v5 play has been very leaky defensively, PK hasn't been great.

Conroy hasn't made many mistakes but keeping all of Rooney, Hanley, and Barrie on the roster and waiving Schwindt is probably one of them. As Scwindt has become a pretty serviceable 4th line C/RW for the Knights.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Bingo

At this point I have to concur on the Rooney confusion.

Maybe they don't want to have two guys trying to learn the position at the same time?

But the fourth line is getting completely filled in and Rooney is 2nd last for forwards in xGA60 while on the PK, so he's not a specialist either.

Now the last place player is Backlund, so really it's the top pair of PK. Maybe that position (more time / against the opposition's first unit) would hurt a replacement equally as much or more?

Our team as a whole stink at faceoffs, our best player is Blake Coleman with 28 draws taken and 57% everyone else is under 47%.

I was reading an article by Trent Yawney talking about the PK and what to do if it's not working. He had some interesting comments but when it's not going well tossing the entire system and starting new isn't what you do. You make small and simple changes that guys can grasp.

I think if they put a greater emphasis on winning faceoffs just on the PK you could see some improvement being able to kill minutes and have the PP having to face a set defence to enter the zone.