Rasmus Andersson wants to remain a Calgary Flame

[PuckSlap]

He never seems to question being a flame. He’s a good player and he hates the oilers.. make him the captain and sign him to a 12 year deal.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I think it’s important well for me not to get attached to players. Once Johnny and Matthew peaced out and said no more. It’s a business I can like a player but everyone can be traded at anytime.

It sucked a lot letting Iginla go but the reality was we held on too long.

Having someone be a lifelong Flame is cool and all but to do that we need some cup banners.

[Rhett44]

I like him, but he doesn't fit with our time line and will want a lot of money.

Good luck somewhere else, Ras.

[Vinny01]

Listening to Steinberg and Francis and I just really disagree with Pat who thinks the Flames shouldn’t even consider moving Andersson until the deadline next year. He thinks it is fine to wait until the value is seemingly at the lowest it will be before he can be moved to consider it.

When I heard Craig on Flames Talk I definitely got the impression the offseason would be the earliest they would consider moving Rasmus. I could be reading it wrong but that is what I took from those conversations.

[dissentowner]

Maybe we can get a poll to see who wants to extend him and who wants to deal him.

[robertsfanatic]

Originally Posted by MrMike

Trade him, keep Weegar. He’s going to want a 9.5ish contract for 8 years.
He’s good, but in that middle area where I don’t think he’ll ever be worth his contract.

what if the contract is 8 or less per year? then would he be worth it?

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Listening to Steinberg and Francis and I just really disagree with Pat who thinks the Flames shouldn’t even consider moving Andersson until the deadline next year. He thinks it is fine to wait until the value is seemingly at the lowest it will be before he can be moved to consider it.

When I heard Craig on Flames Talk I definitely got the impression the offseason would be the earliest they would consider moving Rasmus. I could be reading it wrong but that is what I took from those conversations.

Would be fine trading him in the summer or signing him in the summer but I would hope one of the two would happen in the summer. Love the things Andersson is saying but the contract needs to work. I really don’t know what the number needs to be to be a good deal. I just want Conroy to stick to the system of being willing to pay fair market value but not overpay a player to make them stay.

[Paulie Walnuts]

It’s not just the AAV its term. 4 or less and he’s not going for it.

[Royle9]

He’s saying exactly what he should say, he’s taken this stance before in the summer.
Loves Calgary, appreciates what this city has done for him.

Isn’t writing off staying here, but wants to see what happens and if Craig wants to pay him the $$$ then he’ll think about staying. The great news is he’s worded it so perfectly to ensure his value remains high of Craig chooses to move him, which is a class act.

He’s saying what John said, what Matthew said etc.
All 3 guys love Calgary and always will, but we’re open to fresh starts on new teams VS’s signing long term and we’ll see which route Rasmus ends up taking.

Nothing to dig into here, this is more of the same we’ve heard really and matches what’s been said all season “let’s see where the team is”.

His next contract will be max term so 7/8.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

It’s not just the AAV its term. 4 or less and he’s not going for it.

He'll either sign for 8 years with the Flames or 7 with anyone else. He signed a value deal for his middle contract and now this is his payday, retirement deal.

It'll be full years and probably starting with an 8AAV minimum. It's not a deal I want to see with where we are at in our cycle and already carrying huge contracts on 30+ players. Bad, bad move considering the alternative is to get huge assets for our rebuild in return.

[Macindoc]

If you can sign him to a 7.5M X 8 deal (so a $60M retirement contract), knowing that a buyout could happen near the end, as the cost of keeping the AAV down, if you can have just a limited NTC, you keep open both options of trading him for a good return (still a very good player on a very good contract), or having him stay if the competitive window looks like it’s opening earlier (yes, I know, no false starts on that window, please).

Rasmus is fiery, he’s competitive, he’s a durable workhorse, and he’s always done everything the team has asked him to do to become a better player. If he stays, he’s the next captain. If another team sees these things in him and makes an offer you can’t refuse, then don’t. But also don’t get caught up in the mindset that he has to be traded now, because he could be more valuable to the team in the future than whoever they get in return if it isn’t a very good deal for the Flames.

Why am I thinking he could sign for $7.5M X 8? Well, he’s just said he wants to stay, and another team would have to offer him $8.57M/year to have the same total $$ on his retirement contract.

[traptor]

Bahl is probably going to get resigned and I won't be supprised if it's for around 5 years.

Re-signing Rasmus too means you have 3 of your top 4 D signed.

Wolf is very good and is showing that he could be a consistent .910 goalie going forward.

Throw in your good not great group of forwards and you have a solidly middle team for the foreseeable future.

If this is the plan they are going to need to make a big swing for a guy like Petterson, Marner or Rantenen,otherwise it's another decade in the middle.

I still wonderful how much managing up Conroy is having to do.

[howard_the_duck]

Another hard hitting piece by Francis.

Nothing to see here.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

They all said they wanted to stay at some point. Even Tkachuk said that.

It means nothing, he even said it’s a business

Tkachuk wanted eight years, Treliving offered 6.

It is what it is.

[Jaydee]

TRADE and draft top 10, please for the love of god conroy. unless we are solidly in WC by TD

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Jaydee

TRADE and draft top 10, please for the love of god conroy. unless we are solidly in WC by TD

8 teams would have to pass the Flames for the team to get into a top 10 drafting position between now and end of year.

With the way the club plays and the goaltending of Wolf, that just isnt happening, Regardless of RA being here or not.

I think its time to accept that.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Tkachuk wanted eight years, Treliving offered 6.

It is what it is.

Ive always heard that wasn't the case, there was no reason for Treliving to want 6.

Treliving would do 8 x $9

Tkachuk wanted no more than 6 years x $9 (Marner / Rantanen and others all set the RFA market at 6 years for $9M+ that year)

They settled on the 3 x $7M to keep flexibility and keep the cap hit down.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

It was three years IIRC. And if you read more, his idea of long term started at 5 years. Not that I trust that he would have signed for that despite what he said.

What would you have offered Gaudreau after a couple seasons well below PPG?

This has been hashed over countless time by me and others in endless threads and I'm way too tired to go hunting down articles and tweets to quote but I've been very open about not nickel and diming your stars to overpay down the roster. That was one of Trelivings biggest blunders here in Calgary. Playing silly negotiating tactics like a a Gio Cap to keep an AAV low, and lose years with star players is bogus. Treliving could have signed Gaudreau to an eight year deal back in 2016, which would have just expired last summer, instead of keeping some phoney captain cap and only buying one year of free agency years. So the Gaudreau thing starts well before a 2020 negotiating window.

Matthew Tkachuk's three year deal, walking him to free agency with a qualifying offer so you can keep Frolik (and trade him months later).

I've been consistent with how I view top players. Look at any posts about Rasmus or Dustin Wolf.. indentify your core and star players and lock them in. Depth is much easier to find than top players.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Ive always heard that wasn't the case, there was no reason for Treliving to want 6.

Did six for Gaudreau

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Did six for Gaudreau

Not because that's what he wanted, but to get the player signed without missing games that year.

In the end an issue of Treliving was he wasn't willing to complete a perceived "overpayment" to just get the 8 year contracts done but it wasn't because he only wanted 6 or 7 year deals.

He just valued the shorter term cap savings / flexibility over the guaranteed term of 8 years.