[Trade] Nashville trades G Yaroslav Askarov to Sharks

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Bonded

What piece will they miss in this trade?

They have a lot of good prospects but for a team tanking this hard they have 0 extra 1sts now.

Lots of holes on the team and not all prospects pan out, for a team that has been at the bottom for years they aren't set up that well.

Edstrom and that 1st are both very valuable pieces. I get that some are looking at it like that is what they got for Hertl, but they did retain salary for 6 years to get that quality return. If the plan is to rebuild for 6 more years, why not keep the future assets over a prospect that is NHL ready now as well.

I still think SJ could use another top 3 pick. I also could see Vegas missing the playoffs if LA and Vancouver play well. Demko injuries might make it easier for Vegas to make it through.

It's just an overpay IMO considering the situation.

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Grier might be the worst GM in the league.

I dunno I like the way the Sharks look. Obviously, the prospects have to turn out but looks promising on paper IMO

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

They have a lot of good prospects but for a team tanking this hard they have 0 extra 1sts now.

Lots of holes on the team and not all prospects pan out, for a team that has been at the bottom for years they aren't set up that well.

Edstrom and that 1st are both very valuable pieces. I get that some are looking at it like that is what they got for Hertl, but they did retain salary for 6 years to get that quality return. If the plan is to rebuild for 6 more years, why not keep the future assets over a prospect that is NHL ready now as well.

I still think SJ could use another top 3 pick. I also could see Vegas missing the playoffs if LA and Vancouver play well. Demko injuries might make it easier for Vegas to make it through.

It's just an overpay IMO considering the situation.

I'd take Askarov over Edstrom and a mid to late 1st myself

[Kipper_3434]

####.... you know we'll see him in the playoffs at some point.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I'd take Askarov over Edstrom and a mid to late 1st myself

Probably. It will all come down to how Vegas does this year. If that pick ends up a top 10 pick, then it looks better for Nashville than it does for San Jose. Add to it that the Vegas pick has no protection. Imagine the disaster if that pick ends up being a lottery pick… unless I missed something and San Jose added some lottery protection to the pick in this trade.

[Toonage]

Add Draisaitl in a year and they're on their way

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I'd take Askarov over Edstrom and a mid to late 1st myself

Tough to say. Most years goalies don’t get picked early. Askarov did so maybe he will be worth that trade but that pick could be close to same range he was drafted at. Add another former 1st and it’s not a bad trade but it’s a trade maybe you can make for less.

Also tons of elite goalies get drafted all rounds of the draft. You might get a star in the mid rounds. They don’t need the goalie yet as they aren’t close. Better to keep tanking than adding him now. He’s not the last top goalie prospect. Always will be someone new

[Andrew]

Nabokov Russian star goalie in San Jose. How will askarov do. Vasilevsky and samsonov recent Russian firsts. I would have paid the price even with wolf. Probably looking at gridin and 26 first for comparison Russian goalie factory of late. Mind u we have a fww but none of askarov status.

[Reggie Dunlop]

There's your cornerstone franchise goalie for the next decade. Build from the net out.

Nice work by Grier.

[Jay Random]

Hard to call this an overpay when so many teams are looking for goalies. Nashville was selling in a strong market, that's all.

[Macho0978]

As a Flames fan I like it for them. If Askarov is the real deal this could lead to more wins and put SJ ahead of us in the standings.

[Vinny01]

Not sure how much I like this for the Sharks. If they think this goalie is their franchise guy I think it is a solid move. This was a very highly touted goalie prospect but giving up the 2 key pieces of the Bertl deal which they are retaining on for 6 years seems like a steep price?

Good job for Nashville who turned a trade request into a future 1st and prospect drafted in the 1st. I am not familiar with any of the other pieces in the deal so not sure if that tips the scales?

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Not sure how much I like this for the Sharks. If they think this goalie is their franchise guy I think it is a solid move. This was a very highly touted goalie prospect but giving up the 2 key pieces of the Bertl deal which they are retaining on for 6 years seems like a steep price?

Good job for Nashville who turned a trade request into a future 1st and prospect drafted in the 1st. I am not familiar with any of the other pieces in the deal so not sure if that tips the scales?

None of the other pieces matter really. If SJ was further along with the rebuild I would love this deal, but they aren't.

Lots of prospects to like but what do they have on their roster?

Eklund and Zetterlund probably are the only good pieces they have on the main roster. About to add a ton in Celebrinni, Smith and Askarov, but so many holes on that team.

Vets to trade? Not one of the vets they have this year that could be traded at the deadline will snag a 1st. You might be looking at 2nd for Granlund and 3rd for Ceci with salary retained. Kunin? Sturm?

Ferraro could snag a quality return, but likely not a 1st again

You have a team that has very little for extra picks and they are making moves to finish 6th to 10th last rather than bottom 3. They might be bad enough to get top 3 still but if they end up drafting in the 6 to 10 spot and Celebrinni isn't at the same level of McDavid or MacKinnon types, they aren't looking that good.

Paid too much IMO and Askarov won't be the last top prospect goalie that will be available.

[Hot_Flatus]

The Sharks have been making numerous high picks lately and will do so again this year regardless of this deal. At some point you need to start rounding out your roster out of the building phase.

There is also huge value here for the Sharks in getting Askarov now in his development curve versus looking to draft and develop someone else that may be 4-5-6 years away from NHL ready. Get him into games this year and hope he's ready to perform at a high level next season. Nothing they have given up here will effect their rebuild in any big way.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Tough to say. Most years goalies don’t get picked early. Askarov did so maybe he will be worth that trade but that pick could be close to same range he was drafted at. Add another former 1st and it’s not a bad trade but it’s a trade maybe you can make for less.

Also tons of elite goalies get drafted all rounds of the draft. You might get a star in the mid rounds. They don’t need the goalie yet as they aren’t close. Better to keep tanking than adding him now. He’s not the last top goalie prospect. Always will be someone new

He was drafted 11th overall and has progressed decently. I also think there is about zero chance the Knights are finishing in the bottom ten and Edstrom is a decent prospect but nothing special.

They are getting close to wanting to lift out of the bottom. They will get another high pick this year and then should start moving up the standings.

[Lewis_D]

Good move for the Sharks, totally makes sense for them.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

None of the other pieces matter really. If SJ was further along with the rebuild I would love this deal, but they aren't.

Lots of prospects to like but what do they have on their roster?

Eklund and Zetterlund probably are the only good pieces they have on the main roster. About to add a ton in Celebrinni, Smith and Askarov, but so many holes on that team.

Vets to trade? Not one of the vets they have this year that could be traded at the deadline will snag a 1st. You might be looking at 2nd for Granlund and 3rd for Ceci with salary retained. Kunin? Sturm?

Ferraro could snag a quality return, but likely not a 1st again

You have a team that has very little for extra picks and they are making moves to finish 6th to 10th last rather than bottom 3. They might be bad enough to get top 3 still but if they end up drafting in the 6 to 10 spot and Celebrinni isn't at the same level of McDavid or MacKinnon types, they aren't looking that good.

Paid too much IMO and Askarov won't be the last top prospect goalie that will be available.

I feel like the Sharks are a pretty good bet to finish bottom five again this year.

They gave up 2 late firsts for their goalie. Late firsts are pretty overrated anyway. When you look at the average group of 20th-30th overall you get half busts, and usually one star-ish level player. They truly are lottery tickets by that point in the draft already.

Celebrini and Smith look like the goods. They both pop and some of their other boatload of prospects turn out and the Sharks will be beating UFAs away with a stick again.

[Mass_nerder]

*nevermind; missed that it was Vegas 1st.
Great deal for the Sharks

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

####.... you know we'll see him in the playoffs at some point.

Won't matter. The legs don't feed the Askarov.

[Erick Estrada]

Good trade for both teams. It's a solid haul for a young goaltender and the Sharks now may have their franchise goaltender to bolster the rebuild.