BOURQUE says stick a fork in them...Libs done!

[Flame On]

How much of that oh so shocking over spending will be coming out of my pocket transplant, I'll wager it's pitiful? Besides I could care less about gun owners. Some people don't care about gay rights, I don't care a jot about gun rights.
How much of the adscam money is coming out of my pocket Transplant? Again I'll wager it's pitiful if any, haven't they paid it all back?
I care about social policy and Harper is obviously not at all scary and is almost center in his stance and the rest of his party is too...right. We'll see Transplant, we'll see. (perhaps)

[4X4]

Not to take this thread off too far, but Flame On, areyou serious?

You really think that all the BILLIONS of dollars flushed by the dozen years of Liberal corruption has been paid back?

You really think that it's a pitiful amount?

Ever bought a house or a car? Do you know what that little thing called INTEREST is?

Yeah, it's money paid on money owed. Do you know what kind of tax breaks canadians could see if the billion here and billion there was going to debt would be?

I guess that's just a pitiful amount. Hey, who am I to argue. I was brought up by a single mom on porridge and bechermisley. But you know what? She paid off her mortgage in 12 years. Then we went to disneyland.

But, you know, since all the other parents on the block were too stupid to actually not blow money on tvs and stuff, we should have done the same thing and my mom should still be living on 84th with all the losers who spend more than they earn and owe.


Gawd. I'll simply never understand the contempt for fiscal conservatism shown by some poeple. Like you think that everybody working means everybody eating. Like you think that paying taxes means everybody eating.

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by Hakan

Huh? The NDP had their highest ever seat count in the 80s when Mulroney was PM.

edit: 43 seats in 1988

So yeah, brush up on Canadian electoral history before making it out like you're an expert.

Thanks for the correction. I should have fact-checked before I posted it.

However, I don't recall representing myself as an "expert" on Canadian politics on this board either in this thread or any other. We're all amateurs here, everyone with their opinion.

Cowperson

[Antithesis]

Originally Posted by evman150

Not one article about how Harper is a robot, or how he hates gays, or how he doesn't give a flying fata about the charter of rights and freedoms. Not one article about how the Tories' child care "program" is an absolute joke. No article about Harper wanting to go to war, or about wanting to be Bush's lackey. Nothing. Just a whole ****load of right wing BS. And really, who gives a fata about Belinda's brother?

Pot, meet kettle: you shouldn't be calling people zealots when you blindly make accusations toward Harper like this. Histronic much? It's nice to see you're forming your opinions on this election based on the Liberals' 30,000,000 Reasons advertisements.

While its utter folly to try and have a rational discussion with someone who is as much a zealot (there's your favourite word again) as you, I've found Harper to be far more personable (your robot so-called point) than Martin at all points in this election.

Discussing matters you have no knowledge of or capability of understanding is not a good thing, Mr. Grammar Police.

[Flame On]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Not to take this thread off too far, but Flame On, areyou serious?

You really think that all the BILLIONS of dollars flushed by the dozen years of Liberal corruption has been paid back?

You really think that it's a pitiful amount?

Ever bought a house or a car? Do you know what that little thing called INTEREST is?

Yeah, it's money paid on money owed. Do you know what kind of tax breaks canadians could see if the billion here and billion there was going to debt would be?

I guess that's just a pitiful amount. Hey, who am I to argue. I was brought up by a single mom on porridge and bechermisley. But you know what? She paid off her mortgage in 12 years. Then we went to disneyland.

But, you know, since all the other parents on the block were too stupid to actually not blow money on tvs and stuff, we should have done the same thing and my mom should still be living on 84th with all the losers who spend more than they earn and owe.


Gawd. I'll simply never understand the contempt for fiscal conservatism shown by some poeple. Like you think that everybody working means everybody eating. Like you think that paying taxes means everybody eating.

Like that's what I said. Get off your frickin high horse. There's been wastage and I law breaking. But if you think that money if and when it's paid back is going into some pot for single moms and they're going to benefit from it, you've got some very pretty rose colored glasses on instead of the silver ones from Back to the Future. I don't have contempt for fiscal conservatism I have preference for proggresive social policy and keeping enforced "values" out of government. If the cons win, which is what this thread has turned into in areas, I mentioned it's going to be fun to jump on them if they slip up.
I respect your mom and you and your struggles but it's hardly relevant to what I was saying. I guess if you boil it down I'm saying if there were two governments and one wasted billions but looked at legalizing marijuana, making gay marriage a reality and talked about things like legalizing prostitution etc. and the other didn't I'd have more interest in the social policy one. Being as how no matter what cuts, or child support etc is pumped into the masses I rarely see much if any anyways.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by Flame On

Like that's what I said. Get off your frickin high horse. There's been wastage and I law breaking. But if you think that money if and when it's paid back is going into some pot for single moms and they're going to benefit from it, you've got some very pretty rose colored glasses on instead of the silver ones from Back to the Future. I don't have contempt for fiscal conservatism I have preference for proggresive social policy and keeping enforced "values" out of government. If the cons win, which is what this thread has turned into in areas, I mentioned it's going to be fun to jump on them if they slip up.
I respect your mom and you and your struggles but it's hardly relevant to what I was saying. I guess if you boil it down I'm saying if there were two governments and one wasted billions but looked at legalizing marijuana, making gay marriage a reality and talked about things like legalizing prostitution etc. and the other didn't I'd have more interest in the social policy one. Being as how no matter what cuts, or child support etc is pumped into the masses I rarely see much if any anyways.

Alright, dude... Let me begin by pointing out that hitting the enter button the odd time really makes reading your post easier.

On to the point... I must have come out the wrong way. Did I really sound like I was whining that my mom paid off her mortgage? Because I really don't remember going there. Maybe a little clarification is in order...

My mom managed to raise me and my sis on a meager income, and still managed to pay off her mortgage 13 years earlier than most people.

My point was that after she paid off the mortgage, she had the cash to bring us "poor little raggarmuffins" to disneyland.

My POINT was that spending money wisely allows for more LIBERAL use of money in the future.

My point was not that I had a hard childhood. So I'm just going to drop that, and I'm going to skip over the high horse snap, teh rose colored glasses snap, and that fact that you dissed Doc Brown...

I'll skip straight to the next relevant point. The prgressive social policy you would like to see, can be made possible, very possible, through careful money management. Sorta like going to disneyland. But social policy.

You see, when you don't flush money down the toilet, but instead apply it to outstanding debt (or for that matter, a good social program) it's like an investment into your (or you children's) future.

In conclusion, and specifically regarding your last point, if all you're concerned about is social policy, and have no regard for where the money comes from, have fun living on 84 with all the other big screen tv owners. They've all still got the mortgage. My mom doesn't, but you can rest assured that she's got all the tv she can handle.

[4X4]

Whaddya mean you don't see much of the cuts? You must not have lived in Alberta between 93 and lately. Whaddya mean you don't see much of the affect of the money pumped into programs? Don't you pay taxes?

[transplant99]

How much of that oh so shocking over spending will be coming out of my pocket transplant,

Holy smokes.

OK...first it isnt overspending...its WASTE. How has that registry done for you anyway? Gun deaths must be WAYYY down after wasting 2 Billion dollars on lawful gun owners right? Or was thsi supposed to affect criminals?

Im confused on the whole concept anymore.

I could care less about gun owners. Some people don't care about gay rights, I don't care a jot about gun rights.

And they dont care about you....so you're even.

How much of the adscam money is coming out of my pocket Transplant? Again I'll wager it's pitiful if any, haven't they paid it all back?

You're right. Im looking at this all wrong. Who cares if people steal my stuff, no matter how "pitiful" it is. And no....they haven't paid back what was taken....not even close. And even if they had....what does that change things? They STOLD it.

I care about social policy and Harper is obviously not at all scary and is almost center in his stance and the rest of his party is too...right

Agreed.

We'll see Transplant, we'll see. (perhaps)

I hope so. Ive seen what the Fiberal crooks liars and cheaters have offered Canada....and its a complete joke.

Unbelievable.

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by Hakan

The assertion that Bourque is unbiased is completely ludicrous. It takes reading his page a grand total of one week to figure that out. He hates the Liberals and the NDP.

I am stunned. 1 week and you are sure he hates the Liberals and NDP. How can you possibly come to that conclusion?

[WCE]

Sorry to the conservatives out there, but there is no way in hell I can use my vote as a show of support to a man who took out a full page add in the Wall Street Journal to apologize to America for Canada not going into Iraq. I cannot in good faith support a man who I think would be willing to tag along to George Bush's next adventure, whether it be in Syria or another pit-trap.

Sad climate for Canadian politics.

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by WCE

Sorry to the conservatives out there, but there is no way in hell I can use my vote as a show of support to a man who took out a full page add in the Wall Street Journal to apologize to America for Canada not going into Iraq. I cannot in good faith support a man who I think would be willing to tag along to George Bush's next adventure, whether it be in Syria or another pit-trap.

Sad climate for Canadian politics.

What does this have to do with this thread?