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Old 12-11-2023, 02:51 PM   #41
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Vrana with retention for Dube and a late pick.
...the Flames get the late pick in this situation.
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Vrana with retention for Dube and a late pick.
um I think you said that wrong
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Who else would like to give the same take?

I don't think it's been repeated enough.
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Old 12-11-2023, 03:07 PM   #44
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Who else would like to give the same take?

I don't think it's been repeated enough.
Well...

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Vrana would be a good waiver pickup but I don’t see the value in trading for him, as I don’t think we’re likely to get any sweeteners out of a team like the Blues.

If we’re moving guys like Dube/Ruzicka and taking an older/more expensive player in return, I’d prefer dealing with a contender who will likely float some better picks for the cap space.
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Old 12-11-2023, 06:37 PM   #46
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And if St Louis is willing to send him down and eat the cap penalty for that, they'd probably be willing to retain some salary in a trade too.
A little under 1.5M is the cap hit if they bury him I think. assuming none of his presently retained salary follows him.
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Old 12-12-2023, 12:14 PM   #47
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Well he is on waivers today

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Why? Why oh why Jakub Vrana hast thou toyed with my emotions in such a vile manner ast thou hath???
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I think he could be an interesting pickup. The guy has a ton of skill.
Couldn't hurt the PP that's for sure.
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Couldn't hurt the PP that's for sure.
Surprisingly, he wasn't a very good contributor on the PP over the last couple of seasons. I think he's best in transition.
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See if he clears waivers and then retain on him and dump him if he clears?
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Picking him up would be the stupidest thing we could do, we cleared cap space to weaponize it by acquiring assets for taking useless players on bad contracts. So we just take Vrana for free essentially.
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The on-waviers, off-waivers and then back on-waviers suggests to me there was probably some adminstrative/paper work error that occurred when the team attempted to put Vrana on waivers yesterday (the first time).
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The on-waviers, off-waivers and then back on-waviers suggests to me there was probably some adminstrative/paper work error that occurred when the team attempted to put Vrana on waivers yesterday (the first time).
Either that or they were working on a deal that didn't happen.
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Picking him up would be the stupidest thing we could do, we cleared cap space to weaponize it by acquiring assets for taking useless players on bad contracts. So we just take Vrana for free essentially.
I don't see him as a useless player on a bad contract. He's fast, has a great shot, and he's money on breakaways. He's far from the perfect player, and I haven't watched the Blues much this year, but he brings a lot of things the Flames are currently lacking. You risk next to nothing by giving him a tryout until the end of the year.
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I don't see him as a useless player on a bad contract. He's fast, has a great shot, and he's money on breakaways. He's far from the perfect player, and I haven't watched the Blues much this year, but he brings a lot of things the Flames are currently lacking. You risk next to nothing by giving him a tryout until the end of the year.
You risk not having cap space to help teams make trades at the deadline by being the third party retaining salary, which if I remember from last year was extremely valuable.
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