Practice Notes - Nov 3

[Tbull8]

Gotta think Rooney will be sent down once he’s back and healthy

[LFB_Flames]

Staple Weegar and Kadri to the bench, especially for powerplay. I think Vladar on the point would be a better option than Weegar.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by LFB_Flames

Staple Weegar and Kadri to the bench, especially for powerplay. I think Vladar on the point would be a better option than Weegar.

Weegar has two assists and a goal on the power play in the last two games.

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by LFB_Flames

Staple Weegar and Kadri to the bench, especially for powerplay. I think Vladar on the point would be a better option than Weegar.

That's a strange observation..

Weegar has been this team's best skater this season. He also leads this team in powerplay points despite playing just 15 minutes to date..

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Huh, the Flames gave Pospisil #21. Guess that means Rooney is out for the season?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1720516193768108357

His helmet still had #76 on it. Maybe he was just given a spare hoodie that fit for now?

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Personally, I would like to see the team playing a little better before I put Wolf behind them.

What I would be doing right now is playing Vladar regularly, to get him going, in order to build up his value.

That's been tried and it failed miserably last year when Markstom was struggling. He's a below average backup, and the love for him is bizarre to say the least.

[Fourteen FTW]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Hey, they remembered that dube is a better center than winger! And they are stopping shoehorning a natural winger into the center position. And they are one player away from Hube-Dube-Duehr.

Huby-Dube-Du?

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Fourteen FTW

Huby-Dube-Du?

Reason to acquire Duclair?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by LFB_Flames

Staple Weegar and Kadri to the bench, especially for powerplay. I think Vladar on the point would be a better option than Weegar.

Weegar has been outstanding. One of the bright spots on this roster.

[kehatch]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Personally, I would like to see the team playing a little better before I put Wolf behind them.

What I would be doing right now is playing Vladar regularly, to get him going, in order to build up his value.

It's never a good time.

When the Flames chose to keep Vladar it was "don't worry, the Wrangler are in Calgary and he will get starts". He isn't getting starts so it's "don't expose him to this." If the Flames were marginal it would be "the points matter too much to try". If the Flames were dominant it would be "don't change a thing."

It's all horse booty. The Flames are on a long skid, the Flames goalies aren't playing well, and Wolf is lights out. Rewarding him a couple of games to see how it goes isn't exposing him to anything and it could result something very positive.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Weegar has been outstanding. One of the bright spots on this roster.

Yes but penalty prone.

Originally Posted by TOfan

Reason to acquire Duclair?

We have Duehr!

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by LFB_Flames

Staple Weegar and Kadri to the bench, especially for powerplay. I think Vladar on the point would be a better option than Weegar.

is this a parody account? WTF are you watching

these guys scored too many points in the last couple games for your liking?

[Kolsch]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I don't hate Huska, I just never saw anything to indicate he would ever be a good head coach. This is a roster that needs an offensive minded coach to get the most out of it and Huska is the opposite of that. As I stated back in May when we were debating who should be coach, Huska will use the same system in the o zone that didn't work for this team last year and low and behold, here we are. If they would have kept him as an assistant in charge of the defence and penalty kill you wouldn't hear me say boo about him because that is what he is qualified for. Like Conroy, I love the guy but he absolutely dropped the ball when he knew he had to play a more offensive creative brand with this group and especially Huberdeau and Andrew Brunette was right freakin there! That is an absolute no brainer to offer him the job right after Sutter was gone. Instead they decided to go the bargain bin route and even at that they had a young coach who had actually done really well in the AHL and they let him walk to keep a guy who has shown much less. The only thing Huska does really well is talking, he could sell an ice machine to an Eskimo. Even I was doubting my take on him listening to him talk before the season started and I so wanted him to prove me wrong! It was all smoke and mirrors though, he simply changed the D from man to zone and that is it,everything else is the same except for Darryl's stupid comments. People constantly bitch about Huberdeau and Kadri and how they suck now and the roster has no talent and blah blah blah and it is bull####. These guys are still high end players, they have been their whole careers, there is plenty of creative talent on this team, this roster is easily a playoff team on paper but you have to put them in a position to succeed. The system a team plays has to fit the roster or you are not going to win games. I would bet good money if you used this system with the Colorado Avalanche their record would be as abysmal as our is right now, I have no doubt.

Given it's only 10 games in, I'll still wait to see if your point about Huska only being an excellent talker hold true. I won't deny that the Flames have a terrible track record of hiring coaches, so it wouldn't shock me if they got the hire wrong.

As I see the team right now, we currently have one of the worst goalie tandems in the league combined with no game breakers on 'O' or 'D'. Gonna be hard for any coach to make that look pretty.

As for Colorado hypothetically using this system...no way in hell they would look this bad. MacKinnon/Rantanen/Makar are all legit gamebreakers. We don't have a single player close to them in overall skill.

[Goriders]

At least they are running the young guys through the lineup to keep the fans interested.

Is Coronato injured? Or just watching from the press box for a few games.

Nevermind. I just saw the other thread

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Kolsch

Given it's only 10 games in, I'll still wait to see if your point about Huska only being an excellent talker hold true. I won't deny that the Flames have a terrible track record of hiring coaches, so it wouldn't shock me if they got the hire wrong.

As I see the team right now, we currently have one of the worst goalie tandems in the league combined with no game breakers on 'O' or 'D'. Gonna be hard for any coach to make that look pretty.

As for Colorado hypothetically using this system...no way in hell they would look this bad. MacKinnon/Rantanen/Makar are all legit gamebreakers. We don't have a single player close to them in overall skill.

Markstrom has been outstanding this year. Huberdeau is an absolute elite player, look at his numbers before he got put in this system. MacKinnon and Rantanen would be 60 point players under Huska.

[Kolsch]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Markstrom has been outstanding this year. Huberdeau is an absolute elite player, look at his numbers before he got put in this system. MacKinnon and Rantanen would be 60 point players under Huska.

Markstrom is 30th in goals saved above expected (no minimum games played) and 15th of 29 with minimum 5 games played. I wouldn't say that is outstanding, but better than my comment insinuated before I looked.

I think you underestimate the difference in skill between Huberdeau and those 2 players. Not a chance that MacK or Rantanen get held back that far in any system. If Huberdeau was even close to the level of those 2, his fall from grace would have been PPG - not 55 points. MacK and Rantanen have proven to carry teams on their back.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

That's a strange observation..

Weegar has been this team's best skater this season. He also leads this team in powerplay points despite playing just 15 minutes to date..

Let's not get carried away here. He's tied with Hanifin, Ruzicka and Lindholm with 2 powerplay points each. One more point than Andersson, who missed 4 games.

Not to mention, in spite of only playing 12 minutes of 5-on-4 time, he has 7 blocked shots. If you're blocking 7 shots in 12 total minutes of powerplay time, you're doing something wrong. (Andersson has 0, Hanifin has 2). His PP shots blocked per 60mins is 33.78(!!). The next closest on the entire team is Hanifin at 5.01.

He's had 6 shot attempts, with 5 on goal (pretty good). The 5 on goal attempts were all low danger (expected for a D not named Makar or Fox or Hughes, etc). Only 1 single rebound created though, which is really the point of a low-danger shot from the blueline into traffic.

Andersson is the only defenceman on the team with any 5-on-4 takeaways (2). Weegar is the only one with any giveaways (3). Weegar actually leads the entire roster (incl forwards) in 5-on-4 giveaways, again despite playing significantly less powerplay time than the others.


Edit: I'm not advovcating that he be benched. It's just that calling him our best skater and saying he leads the team in PP points is a bit of a misnomer.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Hunt is the new Lewis except worse

Meanwhile in Los Angeles. . .

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I don't hate Huska, I just never saw anything to indicate he would ever be a good head coach. This is a roster that needs an offensive minded coach to get the most out of it and Huska is the opposite of that. As I stated back in May when we were debating who should be coach, Huska will use the same system in the o zone that didn't work for this team last year and low and behold, here we are. If they would have kept him as an assistant in charge of the defence and penalty kill you wouldn't hear me say boo about him because that is what he is qualified for. Like Conroy, I love the guy but he absolutely dropped the ball when he knew he had to play a more offensive creative brand with this group and especially Huberdeau and Andrew Brunette was right freakin there! That is an absolute no brainer to offer him the job right after Sutter was gone. Instead they decided to go the bargain bin route and even at that they had a young coach who had actually done really well in the AHL and they let him walk to keep a guy who has shown much less. The only thing Huska does really well is talking, he could sell an ice machine to an Eskimo. Even I was doubting my take on him listening to him talk before the season started and I so wanted him to prove me wrong! It was all smoke and mirrors though, he simply changed the D from man to zone and that is it,everything else is the same except for Darryl's stupid comments. People constantly bitch about Huberdeau and Kadri and how they suck now and the roster has no talent and blah blah blah and it is bull####. These guys are still high end players, they have been their whole careers, there is plenty of creative talent on this team, this roster is easily a playoff team on paper but you have to put them in a position to succeed. The system a team plays has to fit the roster or you are not going to win games. I would bet good money if you used this system with the Colorado Avalanche their record would be as abysmal as our is right now, I have no doubt.

I bet Huska uses paragraphs.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

I bet Huska uses paragraphs.

I did but my phone browser just lumped it all together.