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Old 10-15-2023, 01:54 PM   #41
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I’ll bet $100 dino7c is OK with the ads.
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Old 10-15-2023, 02:01 PM   #42
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Old 10-15-2023, 02:19 PM   #43
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This is one of the main factors why I refuse to watch NHL hockey anymore. I do not want my children exposed to gambling marketing. It reminds me of the tobacco industry targeting children by including baseball cards in cigarette packs.

I agree with Mr Coffee. The NHL is a shameful and disgusting organization.
Yeah, I have a big issue with this. My kid loves watching hockey/baseball. But I feel like every time we have to have a "don't ruin your life by getting addicted to gambling" conversation.
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It is illegal to advertise unregulated gambling to Albertans. It is illegal. Period. The only reason the ads continue is no one is actually doing anything about it other than complaining amongst ourselves. Sportsnet shouldn't even be able to broadcast in Alberta until they submit to the laws of Alberta.

It's illegal and Sportsnet is breaking the law. When did Canadian laws become worthless and who is being paid to overlook these laws that were once put in place to protect Albertans.

I am not at all well versed in the area, but what and who would it take and would it be possible to move forward with a class action lawsuit against Sportsnet for their violation of Albertan laws?

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I get that the ads are annoying, but in reality, how is gambling any different from alcohol?
To #### on gambling but not the alcohol commercials is hilariously hypocritical. The only difference is that beer/drinking is a huge part of hockey culture and much more normalized in society.
There were almost 4000 alcohol related deaths in Canada last year yet I haven't heard a peep about anyone complaining about Original 16 being a Flames official sponsor or trying to lobby governemnt to remove alcohol advertising.
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Old 10-15-2023, 03:03 PM   #47
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It's disgusting, degenerate garbage. But if they think it's fine to promote gambling culture to kids and it's allowed then of course they won't stop. Sure makes me feel like Rogers are filth though.
It isn’t just Rogers. The NHL is banking on gambling becoming a major source of engagement with the league, like it is for the NFL.

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But nobody is saying we don't understand why, we understand following the money. The complaints are that our government allow them on TV, in this capacity.
The government gets their cut too. Same as they do from lotteries and casinos. Sin taxes are a less unpopular way to raise revenue than universal taxes.
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Old 10-15-2023, 03:06 PM   #48
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I get that the ads are annoying, but in reality, how is gambling any different from alcohol?
To #### on gambling but not the alcohol commercials is hilariously hypocritical. The only difference is that beer/drinking is a huge part of hockey culture and much more normalized in society.
There were almost 4000 alcohol related deaths in Canada last year yet I haven't heard a peep about anyone complaining about Original 16 being a Flames official sponsor or trying to lobby governemnt to remove alcohol advertising.
It’s more hypocritical that gambling/alcohol adds are okay, but cigarette/weed ads aren’t.

But moreover, the gambling has infected the broadcasts. Real time odds, analysts giving you their prop picks, apps designed to be addictive (while lying to your face saying “this is not a gambling site”.)

The panel doesn’t crack a cold one or shotgun beers every intermission.

I don’t gamble because the one time I did, I got hit with a rush of dopamine so intense I was shaking on the floor of the casino.

I’ve never experienced that with any alcohol.

I’ve also never been unable to make my mortgage payment because of weed.

Your point isn’t invalid, don’t get me wrong - it’s just… alcohol ads are obnoxious, gambling ads are pernicious.

Plus, we’ve also had 30 years of accompanying “don’t drink amd drive” PSAs and other such material that is also included in the broadcast.

When we see an equitable number of gambling addiction counselling ads, at least to the level of MADD ads, would go a long way.

But at the moment, there’s no pushback or counterpoint. It’s just “yolo let it ride hit that next bet button on the best sports book ever, bitch!!!”

Like, #### off outta here - there’s kids watching. At least wait until after the first period.
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I get that the ads are annoying, but in reality, how is gambling any different from alcohol?
To #### on gambling but not the alcohol commercials is hilariously hypocritical. The only difference is that beer/drinking is a huge part of hockey culture and much more normalized in society.
There were almost 4000 alcohol related deaths in Canada last year yet I haven't heard a peep about anyone complaining about Original 16 being a Flames official sponsor or trying to lobby governemnt to remove alcohol advertising.
Alcohol advertisements are not as heavily regulated, but I would be happy to see those go as well. Anything that is for an adult should not be advertised during family events. Cannabis, tobacco, alcohol, and gambling should all be illegal to advertise, but for some reason we give certain potential vices a pass when it comes to advertising. I drink alcohol, have used cannabis, formerly smoked, and don't gamble, but I hate that these possible addictions are being marketed to youth. It is utter stupidity that Cigarette advertisements are illegal, yet alcohol is fine. Imagine tobacco companies were able to advertise as long as they said "smoke responsibly. (no more than 1 cigarette per week)"

Alcohol advertising in Canada could use some Loi Evin.
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Fast food, junk food, high sugar foods are all marketed directly to children. That bugs me.

If you're going to let your kids watch TV you better have a strategy for helping them cope with advertising IMO.
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I don't really care that much about the gambling ads, but making gambling part of the broadcast by having intermission segments and live in-game updates about the latest odds is very annoying.

I was watching the Flames/Pittsburgh game on the Penguins broadcast and they had religion ads.
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I don't really care that much about the gambling ads, but making gambling part of the broadcast by having intermission segments and live in-game updates about the latest odds is very annoying.

I was watching the Flames/Pittsburgh game on the Penguins broadcast and they had religion ads.
Really?

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"Are you feeling lost? Feeling like you need a sense of belonging? I think Zoroastrianism could be for you!"
Yeah. A virtual ad on the boards was in the rotation. It was kind of weird.
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Old 10-15-2023, 07:18 PM   #54
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#1: This is absolutely (and obviously) true.
#2: #1 should be the biggest deterrent to online gambling. If they're making so much money that they can outbid the usual car manufacturers and telecoms for adspace, do you really think you're gonna come out ahead if you start getting in with them?
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#1: This is absolutely (and obviously) true.
#2: #1 should be the biggest deterrent to online gambling. If they're making so much money that they can outbid the usual car manufacturers and telecoms for adspace, do you really think you're gonna come out ahead if you start getting in with them?
They're selling a product just like the car manufacturers and telecoms.

I think there's a big difference between:

(1.) Hockey Night in Canada with gambling ads
(2.) Gambling Night in Canada with a hockey game thrown in

I don't really have a problem with the former if the ads are shown during the scheduled ad stoppages. I don't think we're at the latter yet, but it feels like it's moving that way.
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Yeah I wasn't really commenting on any of that.
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Old 10-15-2023, 07:50 PM   #57
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I’ll bet $100 dino7c is OK with the ads.
Nah I get way better odds on CP with the outlandish statements..."Flames will finish 6th in the division" for instance
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Nah I get way better odds on CP with the outlandish statements..."Flames will finish 6th in the division" for instance
The team that finished 5th last year couldn't possibly finish 6th, that's outlandish.
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The team that finished 5th last year couldn't possibly finish 6th, that's outlandish.
Incoming "we finished one point ahead of the stanley cup finalsts" in 3... 2... 1..."
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Old 10-15-2023, 08:00 PM   #60
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Point being the Vegas oddsmakers are higher on the Flames than many here. So better odds on CP.

94.5 points is the line in Vegas

They were also 10 points up on sixth last season with bum Markstrom so yeah it's a stretch
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