[Rumour] LeBrun: All signs point to Hanifin not wanting to extend with Flames

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Sandman

If you trade Hanifin, suddenly our D looks questionable. The first pairing is still going to Andersson-Weegar, which is excellent, but would a second pairing of Kylington-Tanev be as good as they were in 2021-22 under a new coach, and after OK has missed a year of hockey? Will Stecher return to solidify the bottom pairing? Do we want Stone to play a full 82 games? If Hanifin wants out, then trade him, but if he goes, we'll be looking for another Hanifin- and OK is not as good as Hanifin.

Kylington is a question mark for sure. If he can come back at the same level, that would help, but there is no way to know for sure if that will happen.

It would be nice if someone like Solovyov really impresses in camp and can step in. It wouldn't be an immediate Hanifin replacement, but it would help.

I don't know about Stecher. I think some team will overpay for him and I hope it's not us.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Kylington is a question mark for sure. If he can come back at the same level, that would help, but there is no way to know for sure if that will happen.

It would be nice if someone like Solovyov really impresses in camp and can step in. It wouldn't be an immediate Hanifin replacement, but it would help.

I don't know about Stecher. I think some team will overpay for him and I hope it's not us.

I believe he’s going to come back better then ever, with extreme loyalty to this organization.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

I'm fairly certain being called "just as interesting as Winnipeg" is one of the worst insults imaginable.

Not for the “burn it to the ground” crowd.

Blockbuster time - Hanifin and Lindholm extended to CBJ for Marchenko, 3rd overall + Kent Johnson + cap dumps.

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by Sandman

If you trade Hanifin, suddenly our D looks questionable. The first pairing is still going to Andersson-Weegar, which is excellent, but would a second pairing of Kylington-Tanev be as good as they were in 2021-22 under a new coach, and after OK has missed a year of hockey? Will Stecher return to solidify the bottom pairing? Do we want Stone to play a full 82 games? If Hanifin wants out, then trade him, but if he goes, we'll be looking for another Hanifin- and OK is not as good as Hanifin.

Weegar is downgraded on his off side. Nice to have the flexibility in a pinch but it's not the best use I don't think.

[NewFan]

Give me future top 6 forward prospect and 1st round pick.
Anyway if Hanifin traded I assume the team is going to retool or rebuild.

[Reggie Dunlop]

The Flames don't know what they have in Poirier yet, making a Hanifin trade premature.

[FlamesAddiction]

I watched Top Shelf Hockey's latest Youtube video, and it stated that Eric Francis said that Treliving has a lot of faith in Vladar and that he would be interested in getting him to Toronto. Apparently Treliving has faith that he has starter potential, hence why he extended him earlier this season when there wasn't pressure to really do it.

To that point, I think Vladar has breakout potential as well and would rather trade Markstrom, but trading Markstrom is likely impossible.

If Treliving really does feel that way, I wonder what we could get back.

Edit: Oops, probably should have put this in the general trade rumour thread. Moving it there.

[Mr.Coffee]

I think Hanifin is pretty average. Some good games, some iffy. He’s okay. Depends on what his extension ask is vs. What the trade market is.

[NewFan]

I think Hanifin will ask top pair money with max term, but can we afford him. For perfect world he is perfect 2nd pair D for contending team, unless he paired with elite RHD.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I watched Top Shelf Hockey's latest Youtube video, and it stated that Eric Francis said that Treliving has a lot of faith in Vladar and that he would be interested in getting him to Toronto. Apparently Treliving has faith that he has starter potential, hence why he extended him earlier this season when there wasn't pressure to really do it.

To that point, I think Vladar has breakout potential as well and would rather trade Markstrom, but trading Markstrom is likely impossible.

If Treliving really does feel that way, I wonder what we could get back.

He’s not going to overpay when there’s no other real interest in an asset, I wouldn’t get too excited. 3rd rounder?

[NewFan]

I wouldn't trade Vladar until December, especially if return is 3rd or less. I rather trade or give away Markstrom for future consideration.

[FlamesAddiction]

Sorry, I accidentally derailed the Hanifin talk by posting the Vladar thing in the wrong thread. I moved the post over to the general trade rumour thread.

[oldschoolcalgary]

I like Hanifin and would like to extend him.

Obviously, however, this is about whether Hanifin wants to stay. If not, you need to start exploring trades... ideally before the draft.

Conroy isn't going to walk these guys to UFA without getting somethign back, especially with those players that have high value.

[Hackey]

Hanifin for futures please.

[Goriders]

You only have so much money and with the Weegar, Kadri, Huberdeau signings last fall you’re not going to be able to pay all of your upcoming UFAs their market value.

Some players are going to be leaving. Question is what will the Flames get back. Because the farm team doesn’t have a ton of players ready to step into impact roles.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Goriders

You only have so much money and with the Weegar, Kadri, Huberdeau signings last fall you’re not going to be able to pay all of your upcoming UFAs their market value.

Some players are going to be leaving. Question is what will the Flames get back. Because the farm team doesn’t have a ton of players ready to step into impact roles.

I think you can fill all the holes pretty easily except Lindy and Hanifin.

For the rest, the Flames should just be looking for futures, prospects and young players. If someone is willing to buy aging UFA's off them, they need to do it.

Cap space is a weapon right now, especially with the cap only going up 1 million this season. I just look at what Bjorkstrand or Burns went for. Canucks might have to pay to move Garland for example. If you are able to offload the aging UFA's, I would be looking at taking advantage of the Flames cap flexibility to get cheap or even paid to take decent players.

[CliffFletcher]

Turns out the Sabres are looking to add to their top-4 D (I had thought they were set). Hard to imagine Hanifin rejects a trade and extension with Buffalo.

Lots of options with the Sabres pool of prospects and young players (Quinn, Savoie, Kulich).

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Turns out the Sabres are looking to add to their top-4 D (I had thought they were set). Hard to imagine Hanifin rejects a trade and extension with Buffalo.

Lots of options with the Sabres pool of prospects and young players (Quinn, Savoie, Kulich).

Rasmus Dahlin, Owen Power, and Mattias Samuelsson are all their long term (or will be) - I’d be surprised to see Buffalo go after a LHD.

[kehatch]

Sutter wasn't the only part of the culture issue in the room. You can't fire the millionaire divas, but you can make them someone else's problem. I don't know if Hanafin is one of them, but the Flames should be ready to move on from any player that felt okay pouting rather then playing.

If Hanafin wasn't a problem then I am fine extending him. But if they aren't sure if they can sign him then move him. The Flames can't afford to lose that type of asset for nothing.

[The Original FFIV]

If we move Hanifin, we need a future top line c or d coming back. Teams with a future top pairing d are unlikely to unload one for hanifin. So we have to target a team that is d poor and C heavy.

LA stands out. They are deep at C both currently and in the pipeline. I look at a prospect like Alex Turcotte and basis draft position/pedigree, has potential to be a 1C. They are light on D and could be a good trading partner. Wouldn’t trade Hanifin for a winger, need to nail any trade and get our future top line C in the Hanifin deal.