Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > Fire on Ice: The Calgary Flames Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-24-2023, 03:13 PM   #41
nfotiu
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Virginia
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DSIM420 View Post
It would make for great live TV and you would be able to see if the lottery was rigged or not live. It would be great to see the drama live on the draft floor and teams have little time to adjust based on their new draft positions.
Ah, just go with a Texas Hold'em tournament where the non-playoff teams get ranked 1-16, and each GM gets a starting stack of position x 1000.
nfotiu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2023, 03:13 PM   #42
DSIM420
Backup Goalie
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Kelowna
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by butterfly View Post
If there is an actual malfunction, some low information viewers will claim that it's rigged.
If there is a malfunction it will be visible to everyone. If there is a malfunction behind closed doors and you hear about it after, more people will claim the thing is rigged then watching it play out live.
DSIM420 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2023, 03:14 PM   #43
GirlySports
NOT breaking news
 
GirlySports's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by butterfly View Post
There are so many potential pitfalls to having the actual ping pong balls coming out of the machine on live TV. KPMG or whoever they use would never recommend that.
then have actual celebrity ball pickers.

but it would take longer than you think, that's 408 balls you have to pick.
__________________
Watching the Oilers defend is like watching fire engines frantically rushing to the wrong fire

GirlySports is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2023, 03:16 PM   #44
topfiverecords
Franchise Player
 
topfiverecords's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
Exp:
Default

Get rid of the goalies. They have too much influence on the game.

Without goalies you could then allow kicking the puck for goals.

Make the puck a ball shape so you can use tracking technology for determining a goal over the line.

No goalies means way more $ for the rest of the roster.

Make the nets smaller, save some money on post and mesh material.

Reduce rosters to 3 forward lines. 4th line barely plays anyway. Why is there 3 D pairs and 4 forward sets?

Make the game continuous 90 mins with McDavid's discretion for extra time.

Game misconducts for drawing blood on a high stick.
topfiverecords is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2023, 03:16 PM   #45
powderjunkie
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlySports View Post
just make puck over the glass like an icing, no line changes.
My idea might be a little tough based on the subjectivity of some icing calls, but I've always thought it would be interesting to have a 'bonus penalty' system like basketball.

Each period you can make a total of 4 (or 5 or 3 or whatever number) of these infractions before you get a penalty on the next one:

- icing*
- puck over glass
- intentional offside
- goalie freezing puck outside their crease (ie. goalie has to have some body contact with crease, he can't slide fully out of his crease and cover puck)

*I think there would need to be a little subjectivity on icing...if there is a legit close race for the puck, or it's one of those stretch passes where it isn't totally clear if icing is the right call, maybe it shouldn't count. Or make the penalty threshold a bit higher and they all count.


It rewards high pressure play, but also gives a 'get out of jail free' card to a team protecting a lead in the last minutes if they are below the limit.
powderjunkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2023, 03:16 PM   #46
calf
broke the first rule
 
calf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Exp:
Default

No icing calls if your opponent has pulled their goalie at even strength.
calf is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to calf For This Useful Post:
Old 05-24-2023, 03:19 PM   #47
GioforPM
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
Exp:
Default

adding to my previous list:

1 minute man advantage after a missed penalty shot
puck over glass is a one minute penalty unless refs say it was intentional delay of game
3-2-1 point system for regular win, OT win and OT loss
10 minute OT, if no winner, then just a point apiece. No shootout.
GioforPM is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to GioforPM For This Useful Post:
Old 05-24-2023, 03:25 PM   #48
butterfly
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DSIM420 View Post
If there is a malfunction it will be visible to everyone. If there is a malfunction behind closed doors and you hear about it after, more people will claim the thing is rigged then watching it play out live.
The live on TV draft lottery will never happen. Think about how incentivized the NHL is to increase viewership of any kind, then ask yourself why it's not already on TV.

There's simply far too much needless liability in case of a malfunction.
butterfly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2023, 03:30 PM   #49
powderjunkie
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus View Post
There's plenty of things that could be better and officiating is probably #1 but there's a lot of others.

Here's three I would like to see.

- Draft Lottery:

The lottery should be an entertaining TV event bingo style with all 16 teams that miss having a chance at #1. bingo balls with team logos.

16th place - 16x3 = 48 balls (flames this year)
15th place -15x3 = 45 balls
-
- so on
3rd place - 3x3 = 9 balls
2nd place - 2x3 = 6 balls
1st place - 1x3 = 3 balls

big drum rolls and the first team with 2 balls gets 16th overall, all the way down to the team that only has 1 ball come up for #1 overall.
I've always wanted a radical change the involved picking all 16 slots, and your 2 ball solution is the perfect way to mitigate the craziest outcomes. If necessary, I think you could add a maximum 'drop' (ie worst team can pick no lower than 6th or something) instead of the current maximum jump up, which is ####ing stupid.

I'd add a few more inputs to determine the weighting:

If you picked this slot in the previous year:
1OA = +10 balls
2OA = +8 balls
3OA = +6 balls
4OA = +4 balls
5OA = +2 balls

the year before that:
1OA = +8 balls
2OA = +6 balls
3OA = +4 balls
4OA = +2 balls

and so on so that the 1OA picker from 5 years ago gets +2 balls
powderjunkie is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to powderjunkie For This Useful Post:
Old 05-24-2023, 03:35 PM   #50
bzoo02
Scoring Winger
 
bzoo02's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Medicine Hat
Exp:
Default

NCAA idea:

College players can't be drafted until they are ready to turn pro. Would make for an exciting draft with some 22 year olds in the mix.
bzoo02 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2023, 03:42 PM   #51
calgarygeologist
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Exp:
Default

I'd like to see a loss of the PP when a short handed goal is scored.
calgarygeologist is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to calgarygeologist For This Useful Post:
Old 05-24-2023, 03:45 PM   #52
MrMike
Franchise Player
 
MrMike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason14h View Post
I can’t believe so many people care about the offside rule when so few goals are called back, and it is breaking a clear , no interpretation rule - no different then any other against the rule foul or out of arena issue (puck hitting net , etc)

Why do you all want a goal to occur where an against the rules action (that is missed by a ref) occurred
With the offside rule, what really grinds my gears is when it needs to be zoomed in on from 7 different angles and stopped at frame by frame to see if it was by an inch.

If it’s that close it should be fine, just for the egregious missed ones it should be used.
MrMike is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to MrMike For This Useful Post:
Old 05-24-2023, 03:53 PM   #53
wretched34
Scoring Winger
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Lethbridge
Exp:
Default

No more guaranteed contracts, make them performance based with option years.
wretched34 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to wretched34 For This Useful Post:
Old 05-24-2023, 03:57 PM   #54
GirlySports
NOT breaking news
 
GirlySports's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMike View Post
With the offside rule, what really grinds my gears is when it needs to be zoomed in on from 7 different angles and stopped at frame by frame to see if it was by an inch.

If it’s that close it should be fine, just for the egregious missed ones it should be used.
What's 'that close'? This is the fear of replay and why some people are against it. Once it's brought in, it's black and white. There's no such thing as bringing in replay just for egregious missed ones. Because you can see everything and even beyond seeing everything, we have Hawkeye.
__________________
Watching the Oilers defend is like watching fire engines frantically rushing to the wrong fire

GirlySports is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to GirlySports For This Useful Post:
Old 05-24-2023, 04:14 PM   #55
Paulie Walnuts
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Sep 2022
Exp:
Default

Remove the Edmonton Oilers from the NHL.

Done.
Paulie Walnuts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2023, 04:32 PM   #56
Skaloper
First Line Centre
 
Skaloper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: BC
Exp:
Default

Make any penalties in OT a Penalty Shot instead or reduce the length to a minute. Really seems unfair to have 2 minute penalty in OT 4 on 3 with a long change...
Skaloper is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Skaloper For This Useful Post:
Old 05-24-2023, 04:35 PM   #57
theinfinitejar
Powerplay Quarterback
 
theinfinitejar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason14h View Post
I can’t believe so many people care about the offside rule when so few goals are called back, and it is breaking a clear , no interpretation rule - no different then any other against the rule foul or out of arena issue (puck hitting net , etc)

Why do you all want a goal to occur where an against the rules action (that is missed by a ref) occurred
If the linesman call a play offside that actually wasn't there's no way to undo it, and if a guy dumps it in from 5 feet behind the red line it also can't get reviewed. Just seems silly to review a game flow rule only in one specific instance and not in a bunch of other situations that you theoretically could.
__________________
Fire Geoff Ward.

Into the Sun.
theinfinitejar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2023, 04:37 PM   #58
The Cobra
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMike View Post
With the offside rule, what really grinds my gears is when it needs to be zoomed in on from 7 different angles and stopped at frame by frame to see if it was by an inch.

If it’s that close it should be fine, just for the egregious missed ones it should be used.
So, if it's close it OK. Define close? No matter what criteria you use, they'll always be that "gray arear" between acceptable amount of offide.
The Cobra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2023, 04:40 PM   #59
Owen15
Scoring Winger
 
Join Date: May 2012
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cycling76er View Post
No more betting ads. Period.
I bet this doesn’t happen.
Owen15 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2023, 04:40 PM   #60
GreenLantern2814
Franchise Player
 
GreenLantern2814's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Exp:
Default

1. Hawkeye systems for offside reviews like they have in tennis.

There’s no such thing as a controversial review in tennis. Because the CGI ball either touches the line or doesn’t, and we all accept the machine is right and move on with our lives.

Rig that in the nets as well and stop wasting our lives with these friggen reviews.

2. Home teams wear white + more one-off jerseys and creative designs - the league has been devoid of interesting uniforms for 20 years.

The 90s have all sorts of gaudy monstrosities. It’s okay to look ridiculous once in a while.

3. Delete the trapezoid. Goalies handling the puck is a recipe for chaos. It should be encouraged.

The only reason the trapezoid was ever implemented was because two guys were so good at moving the puck, they ruined it for everyone.

But Turco and Brodeur never got to play without that trapezoid AND without the two line pass.

There’s such a premium on possession now, there’s no way a coach wants a goalie flicking in out into the neutral zone.

Let the goalies play the puck. They all think they’re good at it, and most of them are not. When they wander far from home, interesting things happen.

Honourable mention: 1st and 3rd periods get the long change. That’s more of an agent of chaos wish, I don’t know if that would make the game better. It might just give us two second periods.
__________________
”All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you.”

Rowan Roy W-M - February 15, 2024
GreenLantern2814 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to GreenLantern2814 For This Useful Post:
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:42 PM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy