05-19-2023, 07:28 AM
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#41
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Referee
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: In your enterprise AI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calgarygeologist
Cats and dogs don't have any culture.
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I beg to differ
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05-19-2023, 08:36 AM
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#42
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Dances with Wolves
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Section 304
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Originally Posted by PeteMoss
I highly doubt 'culture' had much to do about this. Most of the complaining about fireworks comes from people with dogs who freak out when they go off.
When you include 'culture' it just gives everyone a chance to complain that they are taking away our own culture as in this thread. Bad communications.
That said - the light show will probably be cool and no one really cares about fireworks anyways - they just want to see something cool happen in the sky.
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Ya, this seems like an issue of a lot of angry dog owners and somebody wanted to score some "I care a lot about people" points. I'd be blown away if culture had much to do with this.
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05-19-2023, 08:42 AM
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#43
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Damn it
I ####ing love fireworks
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05-19-2023, 09:16 AM
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#44
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Violating Copyrights
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Quote:
Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Damn it
I ####ing love fireworks
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I love fireworks! The noise, the lights. Mostly those aspects.
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05-19-2023, 09:27 AM
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#45
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Virginia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russic
Ya, this seems like an issue of a lot of angry dog owners and somebody wanted to score some "I care a lot about people" points. I'd be blown away if culture had much to do with this.
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So the thought is they cancelled it for some logical reasons like causing pet stress and maybe wild fire concerns and could have just went with those reasons to try a light and drone show. Instead they covered up their logical decision with some weird cultural justification that fireworks are disrespectful but a light and drone show isn’t and annoyed everyone?
Solid political strategy!
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05-19-2023, 09:33 AM
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#46
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Honestly, it's like we're abdicating any sense of national pride at this point so that the one time you see the flag is when crazy people are flying it upside down to protest.
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05-19-2023, 10:13 AM
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#47
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The cultural sensibilities portion is dumb AF. If someone is that offended by the fireworks, then they are offended by the very idea of Canada Day or Canada itself.
In reality, fireworks are not great for the environment, and can scare and disturb pets and wild animals alike and if they went with that angle, it would have been more palatable, but still dumb.
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05-19-2023, 10:18 AM
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#48
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Such a pretty girl!
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Calgary
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Ya, I don't really understand.
If it's the notion that some find it offensive to celebrate Canada Day via fireworks, it should also apply to any celebration of that day then. Or is it a case of as long as you don't have too much fun it's okay then.
If it's about pets and other things, does this mean the New Years fireworks will also be cancelled?
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05-19-2023, 10:20 AM
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#49
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First Line Centre
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This place is so white privileged, just look at these replies. You guys like explody things over the the literal pain and suffering and rape of previous settlers.
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05-19-2023, 10:22 AM
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#50
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slava
Honestly, it's like we're abdicating any sense of national pride at this point so that the one time you see the flag is when crazy people are flying it upside down to protest.
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That’s the worst part of all this. Canada is one of the freest, most multicultural nations in the world. It’s pretty fuucking remarkable actually how well it works, and yet anything ‘Canadian’ has been usurped by nut jobs and the good that remains is being degraded in the name of Canada?
One day to get together as a community and remember all the good that comes from this place…nope, insensitive. Alrighty then. These modern day back-patting leftists make me embarrassed to call myself one.
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05-19-2023, 10:39 AM
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#51
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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I tend to think nationalism is silly as hell, but this seems like an idea that comes from the most ####lib corners of twitter.
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05-19-2023, 10:40 AM
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#52
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fotze2
This place is so white privileged, just look at these replies. You guys like explody things over the the literal pain and suffering and rape of previous settlers.
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Green text? must be green text....
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05-19-2023, 10:41 AM
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#53
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by rubecube
I tend to think nationalism is silly as hell, but this seems like an idea that comes from the most ####lib corners of twitter.
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I would hardly define a family-oriented event that lasts 20 minutes as nationalism.
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05-19-2023, 10:42 AM
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#54
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sliver
I'm done reconciling until we're given an end date when we can stop. It looks like this is just going to go on in perpetuity otherwise.
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This is maybe the worst part of this. The idea probably came from some 40 year-old white woman, but it ends up hurting indigenous people because it stokes idiotic responses like this one.
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05-19-2023, 10:43 AM
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#55
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
I would hardly define a family-oriented event that lasts 20 minutes as nationalism.
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I meant the concept of Canada Day and national pride in general is pretty silly when you really think about it.
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05-19-2023, 10:46 AM
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#56
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Lifetime Suspension
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Destroy culture and tradition, replace it with subservience to the state and it's ideologies. Worked out great for the CCP.
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05-19-2023, 10:47 AM
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#57
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubecube
I meant the concept of Canada Day and national pride in general is pretty silly when you really think about it.
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Hmm, no. I'm really thinking about it, and no. It's fun.
By your logic, every single holiday is silly and we should all work 2,080 hours per year to maximize societal output. Never mind celebrating something silly like "Christmas" or a "national day".
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05-19-2023, 10:48 AM
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#58
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Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matata
Destroy culture and tradition, replace it with subservience to the state and it's ideologies. Worked out great for the CCP.
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Canada's already got a pretty good history of doing that. Oh, oh, wait, you didn't mean THAT culture.
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05-19-2023, 10:51 AM
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#59
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by rubecube
I meant the concept of Canada Day and national pride in general is pretty silly when you really think about it.
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No it is not. I am a proud Canadian that has traveled extensively and we have a great country and one of which we should be proud.
If you want to be a child of the world, all the power to you, but I.AM. CANADIAN and damn proud of it!
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05-19-2023, 10:53 AM
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#60
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Crash and Bang Winger
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This place is so white privileged, just look at these replies. You guys like explody things over the the literal pain and suffering and rape of previous settlers.
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Sorry, but this point of view is deeply flawed. It isn't white-privileged to have pride in your country; even when that country has all kinds of warts on its history.
Truth and Reconciliation is not achieved by eliminating any sense of pride in Canada; it's achieved by ensuring that both the good and the bad are taught and recognized. Rather than cancelling fireworks, why don't we ensure that Canada day celebrations properly reflect aboriginals and their essential place in Canada's past and present.
The same can be said for how we teach our history. We don't stop teaching about pre-confederation aboriginal history, we just make sure that we place emphasis on both pre and post-confederation history and the wrongs that were committed (and continue to be committed).
Just the same as we don't stop teaching about the railway in Canada and the benefit it's been to this country, we continue to teach it while giving equal acknowledgement that it was built by exploiting Chinese immigrants and sending them down tunnels with dynamite on their back.
We also continue to teach about John A. MacDonald as the father of confederation, while acknowledging that he held views that are gross when viewed through 21st century glasses, and that he had a significant role in some of our countries worst episodes.
This whole cancelling anything that may trigger a minority of aggrieved individuals is not reasonable accommodation.
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