[News] Mangiapane undergoes shoulder surgery

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

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That's a hell of a slapshot to get multiple injuries from from head to toe!

[MissTeeks]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1650949520971436032

[GranteedEV]

should have had this surgery in September, probably would have finished the season with the same number of goals

[activeStick]

I honestly can't see this being a Calgary-specific issue where injuries go untreated for some time during the season and I definitely don't think team management and/or coaching staff anywhere are knowingly hiding or ignoring health issues when there are serious problems (such as issues requiring surgery). These are trained professionals in healthcare and on the other end professional managers who understand risk/reward in sports. 1 or 2 games in a "must win" like what Tanev did in Game 5 against the Oilers, I can see, but it makes zero sense from a risk/reward perspective to allow Mangiapane, for example, to play an entire season if there were ever a risk of him making the issue worse, plummeting their $17M investment in the process. What I imagine happens is what some have mentioned here - players say they feel fine, coaches believe them.

[sureLoss]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1651004039520485376

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Fire the medical staff and acquire some with a miniscule combination of brains and gumption.

Sean Monahan's career was totally ruined by behavior just like this. IMO this is an organizational problem, and has been festering for some time. Do NOT play through injuries. Sit and minimize your recovery time to 100% instead of playing at 60% all season.

Yup, great advice. Keep this in mind when you see teams LTIR players to make sure they are 100%…

I’m 100% behind it. But people freak out.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

https://twitter.com/user/status/1651004039520485376

Flames need to continue to give young guys experiwnce in and out of the lineup so they can rest key injuries. Eat bread playing in the playoffs injured is just asking for trouble and risking the players long term health. Was a wasted season for guys like Eat bread, could have used him rested and ready for the stretch run.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

Flames need to continue to give young guys experiwnce in and out of the lineup so they can rest key injuries. Eat bread playing in the playoffs injured is just asking for trouble and risking the players long term health. Was a wasted season for guys like Eat bread, could have used him rested and ready for the stretch run.

If every injured player sat out the playoffs there wouldn't be anyone left

[Boreal]

Originally Posted by dino7c

If every injured player sat out the playoffs there wouldn't be anyone left

No.

If someone is hurt they try to play through, if someone is injured they can’t play through.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by shadowlord

Should have just had the surgery early on in the season. Given the number of 1-goal losses we had this season, another 10 or so goals would have made a big difference in making the playoffs.

Surgery isn't always the best option. Sometimes it can be better to wait and see if an injury will heal naturally before jumping into a surgery that could have the potential to cause other long term issues.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Surgery isn't always the best option. Sometimes it can be better to wait and see if an injury will heal naturally before jumping into a surgery that could have the potential to cause other long term issues.

Also, some injuries don't get worse if played on, some do. So if a guy is 80% but won't get worse and has no long term effects, and if no one better is there to replace him, they let him play.

That said, the injuries that can't be made worse aren't that numerous.

[NuclearFart]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Fire the medical staff and acquire some with a miniscule combination of brains and gumption.

Sean Monahan's career was totally ruined by behavior just like this. IMO this is an organizational problem, and has been festering for some time. Do NOT play through injuries. Sit and minimize your recovery time to 100% instead of playing at 60% all season.

The major management decisions are largely made in conjunction with perceived "top" specialists outside the organization. If the specialist says it can wait until season end with rehab, or needs immedate shut down and surgery, they're going to do just that. Its not a though Jim Thorne et al. will unilaterally veto Dr. Assmans recommendation for stat surgery at the ass center of excellence.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by NuclearFart

The major management decisions are largely made in conjunction with perceived "top" specialists outside the organization. If the specialist says it can wait until season end with rehab, or needs immedate shut down and surgery, they're going to do just that. Its not a though Jim Thorne et al. will unilaterally veto Dr. Assmans recommendation for stat surgery at the ass center of excellence.

and sometimes a body just doesn't respond in a typical manor despite doing everything 'right'

[activeStick]

Another player playing with an injury

https://twitter.com/user/status/1408865603641774081

[Buff]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Another player playing with an injury

https://twitter.com/user/status/1408865603641774081

Obviously Flames management and medical staff also work for the Kings because only the Flames force their players to risk death to play.