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Old 07-20-2023, 09:02 AM   #41
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A - I'm a huge fan of all of Simon Whistlers channels and there are lots.

B - The story of James Dresnok an American Soldier who defected during the Cold War.


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Old 07-20-2023, 10:12 AM   #42
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Or he is just delusional and misguided. He joins a group of soldiers who did a very similar thing, assuming he did it with the same intentions. The truth is we don't know.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...the_Korean_War

The most famous, infamous? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Joseph_Dresnok
James Joseph Dresnok (Korean: 제임스 조새프 드레스녹, November 24, 1941 – November 2016) was an American defector to North Korea, one of seven U.S. soldiers to defect after the Korean War.

After defecting, Dresnok worked as an actor in propaganda films, some directed by Kim Jong Il,[2] and as an English teacher in Pyongyang. He was featured on the CBS magazine program 60 Minutes on January 28, 2007, as the last U.S. defector alive in North Korea.[3] He was also the subject of a documentary film, Crossing the Line, by British filmmakers Daniel Gordon and Nicholas Bonner, which was shown at the 2007 Sundance Film Festival.[4][5]

Dresnok most often called himself Joe Dresnok[3] but was also referred to as "James"[6][7][8] or "Jim" Dresnok[9] in media reports. He was known by most North Koreans as "Arthur", from his starring role in the miniseries Unsung Heroes (1978).
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I know a guy who is socially awkward and wasn't having much luck with the ladies after his divorce. He got in trouble at work for creeping out female staff members. He thought if he went to Polland for a few months he would have a bunch of attractive Eastern European women throwing themselves at him. It didn't work out. So he tried Thailand and that didn't work out either. This defector probably has a bunch of problems and thinks that he will do better being an exotic novelty in North Korea. It might just work, or not.
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Old 07-20-2023, 11:08 AM   #44
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Based on reporting the escape was well thought out and planned ahead of time.

1. The MPs were not allowed to escort him to the gate to make sure he got on the plane.
2. Once he got to the gate, he told the gate agent he lost his passport, so he was escorted out of the airport.
3. The tour of Joint Security Area requires many days of advance notice. You can't get just show up and get in.
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Old 07-20-2023, 11:36 AM   #45
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Defecting after the Korean War made more sense as there were those who viewed communism was the better system and for a while North Korea was doing better. South Korea was a banana republic dictatorship until the 90s.
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Old 07-20-2023, 01:07 PM   #46
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So, about all those underground nuclear tests…

How many North Koreans do you imagine have been executed via nuclear bomb?

Because I’d guess that number is considerably north of zero.

The walls must be nothing but shadows below 6 feet.
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Old 07-20-2023, 01:27 PM   #47
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Now North Korea is saying the deployment of the US nuclear sub fits under their laws as a nuclear attack.
I hope NK F's around and finds out and we get an end to this current family regime.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/...ating-tensions
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Now North Korea is saying the deployment of the US nuclear sub fits under their laws as a nuclear attack.
I hope NK F's around and finds out and we get an end to this current family regime.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/...ating-tensions
Loathe as I am to quote Steve Bannon, “Until somebody solves the part of the equation that shows me that ten million people in Seoul don’t die in the first 30 minutes from conventional weapons, I don’t know what you’re talking about, there’s no military solution here, they got us.”

Pay them to shut up and move on.
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Defecting after the Korean War made more sense as there were those who viewed communism was the better system and for a while North Korea was doing better. South Korea was a banana republic dictatorship until the 90s.
Kinda not quite. South Korea was poverty stricken until the dictatorship implemented economic reforms that saw the country grow in the 60s and 70s. They emulated Japan in that they picked winners and invested heavily in them. Most are the common brands you see today.

1987 ended the dictatorship. 1988 Olympics was a showcase. I am not condoning anything, modern Korea has issues, but its place in the world is undeniable. Lots owing to that period.
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Kinda not quite. South Korea was poverty stricken until the dictatorship implemented economic reforms that saw the country grow in the 60s and 70s. They emulated Japan in that they picked winners and invested heavily in them. Most are the common brands you see today.

1987 ended the dictatorship. 1988 Olympics was a showcase. I am not condoning anything, modern Korea has issues, but its place in the world is undeniable. Lots owing to that period.
They grew somewhat in 60s and 70s from bottom of the barrel 3rd world to normal 3rd world - but its the late 80s where they really started growing.

Up until 1985 there were basically Mexico in terms of GDP per capita, now they are 3.5 times higher.

https://datacommons.org/tools/timeli...inal_PerCapita
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Loathe as I am to quote Steve Bannon, “Until somebody solves the part of the equation that shows me that ten million people in Seoul don’t die in the first 30 minutes from conventional weapons, I don’t know what you’re talking about, there’s no military solution here, they got us.”

Pay them to shut up and move on.
I was shocked to see a nuclear power plant on the drive from Seoul to the DMZ. That sucker is easily in reach of North Korean artillery.
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Kinda not quite. South Korea was poverty stricken until the dictatorship implemented economic reforms that saw the country grow in the 60s and 70s. They emulated Japan in that they picked winners and invested heavily in them. Most are the common brands you see today.

1987 ended the dictatorship. 1988 Olympics was a showcase. I am not condoning anything, modern Korea has issues, but its place in the world is undeniable. Lots owing to that period.
Sure it was a showcase all right. All undesirables were pleased in prison camps to purify the streets. The 1988 Olympics didn't just happen that year, they made the bid and promises in 1981.

Communism was winning and desirable to some, because democracies hasn't gotten their #### together yet. Until it wasn't and the Berlin Wall came down.
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US has went a second nuclear sub to SK.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/u-s-sen...orea-1.6491314
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https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/u-s-sen...orea-1.6491314

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I was shocked to see a nuclear power plant on the drive from Seoul to the DMZ. That sucker is easily in reach of North Korean artillery.
Pretty good place to put it, honestly - no way for the NKs to attack it without poisoning themselves.

Nuclear deterrence at its finest.
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Loathe as I am to quote Steve Bannon, “Until somebody solves the part of the equation that shows me that ten million people in Seoul don’t die in the first 30 minutes from conventional weapons, I don’t know what you’re talking about, there’s no military solution here, they got us.”

Pay them to shut up and move on.
Not to downplay the lives of those living in Seoul who are in range, and I'm by no means nothing else other than a CP armchair General. But is 10M really that feasible of a number to die if NK goes nuts and turns on their artillery? Again, not downplaying the destruction it would cause, but that number seems way too high. Are we to assume there is no warning system in place should NK decide to attack? From what I have read, there are only a couple hundred artillery pieces that can actually reach Seoul itself. Those pieces are being tracked in real-time by satellite imagery. Surely the US/SK intelligence would notice the second they are activated and be able to give out warnings. As well, citizens in Seoul practice drills in case of attack. I can't imagine, unless it's in the middle of the night, people learning of an attack that is en route and simply staying put. And finally, if Seoul is to be levelled in 30 minutes, that is assuming that the US and SK do sweet FA to actually stop it. I'd imagine the second they begin firing, US and SK contingences are immediately activated and rather than 30 minutes of hellfire it's 5-10 at the most before most of those artillery pieces are toast.

If cities like Mariupol and Bahkmut took months to raze down, I simply can't envision 10M dying in Seoul in 30 minutes with the US right on the door step a few KMs away, ready to retaliate. Yes, a large number would die unfortunately. But the entire city destroyed along with 10M people sounds...made up .
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Not to downplay the lives of those living in Seoul who are in range, and I'm by no means nothing else other than a CP armchair General. But is 10M really that feasible of a number to die if NK goes nuts and turns on their artillery? Again, not downplaying the destruction it would cause, but that number seems way too high. Are we to assume there is no warning system in place should NK decide to attack? From what I have read, there are only a couple hundred artillery pieces that can actually reach Seoul itself. Those pieces are being tracked in real-time by satellite imagery. Surely the US/SK intelligence would notice the second they are activated and be able to give out warnings. As well, citizens in Seoul practice drills in case of attack. I can't imagine, unless it's in the middle of the night, people learning of an attack that is en route and simply staying put. And finally, if Seoul is to be levelled in 30 minutes, that is assuming that the US and SK do sweet FA to actually stop it. I'd imagine the second they begin firing, US and SK contingences are immediately activated and rather than 30 minutes of hellfire it's 5-10 at the most before most of those artillery pieces are toast.

If cities like Mariupol and Bahkmut took months to raze down, I simply can't envision 10M dying in Seoul in 30 minutes with the US right on the door step a few KMs away, ready to retaliate. Yes, a large number would die unfortunately. But the entire city destroyed along with 10M people sounds...made up .
I don’t know a ton about the strategic setup of NK vs SK, but the North has had what, 60 years to build up god knows how many shelling points along the border?

And there’s no way the US/South know where they all are.

And even if they do, the only way to wipe them all out in so short a time is with nuclear weapons.

And in that case, they’ve already lost.

There’s no military solution.

Either the North’s own military/intelligence services take out Kim and try to normalize relations with the rest of the world, or you pay Kim to stay in his corner.

That’s it. It doesn’t matter if he conceivably “has the ability” to reach Japan or the US with a bomb. He sets one off first, he’s going to get nuked (which everyone who has nukes understands, and why nobody actually uses them) and Kim isn’t in this game just to die.
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Lmao, these idiots can't even put a satellite in space. Fail #2.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/...nds-in-failure
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Travis King, the US soldier who fled to North Korea, is back in US custody. North Korea decided to "deport" him.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66939470

I suspect a minor deal was made to return him.
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I presume his first words to the Americans were "I have some regrets."
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