01-03-2023, 08:45 PM
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#41
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Pretty thrilled that Sutter has managed to take the gas out of his best forward. Ruzicka was pretty invisible tonight. Having him playing like that will go a long way towards securing Bedard.
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01-03-2023, 08:45 PM
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#42
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First Line Centre
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We did not lose because of Marky, lost due to poor PP execution and lack of ability to finish. Been that way a lot this year.
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01-03-2023, 08:46 PM
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#43
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Hard to beat a team 3-2 when they score three first.
#sutterproblems
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01-03-2023, 08:46 PM
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#44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathgod
Good effort but unable to get that extra goal and/or extra save.
Not inconceivable that both Alberta teams miss the playoffs this year.
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I will bet anything you like that that doesn't happen
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01-03-2023, 08:46 PM
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#45
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Would be a difference maker if Eat Bread could get going, or if the PP came up big once in a while. Feels like just one goal at times would get the Flames going on a big streak.
Good game, both goalies were great, a good effort on the road. Just needed that 3rd goal before the Jets got it. Onto the next one.
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01-03-2023, 08:46 PM
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#46
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BoLevi
But he was the second best goalie on the ice tonight, was he not?
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No. They played at the same level.
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01-03-2023, 08:46 PM
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#47
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Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Pas, MB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by memphusk
Half the problem is Calgary makes every Goalie look better.
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They don't get traffic in front of net either like the Jets did on the winning goal.
The goalie pretty much sees every shot and tips are usually from far out where the chance of getting a piece are higher.
Last edited by Inferno; 01-03-2023 at 08:50 PM.
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01-03-2023, 08:46 PM
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#48
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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I think the problem isn’t Markstrom tonight in a vacuum if this was a one off but more that there have been too many games like this this season where no goal is technically “soft” but still he let’s in more than you’d like.
XG were 2.73 for and 2.1 against tonight. And the Flames lost 3-2. Markstrom let in one more than you’d like, Hellebuyck let in one fewer and that’s the difference in what was a very close and hard fought game between two teams.
Not really Markstroms fault tonight alone but just happening too frequent this season (combined with the lack of finishing being an issue too and magnifying it)
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01-03-2023, 08:47 PM
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#49
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Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zamler
I'll get bullied for saying this, didn't like the winning goal on Markstrom.
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needed to be in position for one of the last two that went in
if he's in position on either they might not go in
don't like seeing half his body outside of the post, even if the shots are high quality/deflected
needs to at least give himself a chance by cutting off the angles
Last edited by TrentCrimmIndependent; 01-03-2023 at 08:49 PM.
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01-03-2023, 08:47 PM
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#50
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Calgary
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Kadri line had a couple good chances (Kadri post and Weegar chance from Hubredeau), but I don’t think they generate consistently enough 5 on 5. I think the Lucic experiment has run its course there. Need someone with some speed.
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01-03-2023, 08:47 PM
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#51
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#1 Goaltender
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Fun to watch, but never felt like the Flames were going to win without some puck luck. Didn't get it and didn't play well enough to outlast a stubborn Jets team.
Sigh.
Didn't like the call on Toff with 3 min to go, but to be fair, you've gotta be smarter than to give the Refs a chance to call a stupid penalty, too.
As well, I am *so* over Raz (whom I like!) on the back of the PP with too much pitch and catch, too little movement, too little shooting, and from too far out mostly. Puck retrieval isn't too bad, but PP2 often seems a LOT better than PP1 and that ain't saying much.
Oddly, two Jets goals scored on shots from 60' out.....one directly and one on a tip. We don't seem to be able to do that.
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01-03-2023, 08:47 PM
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#52
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
Would be a difference maker if Eat Bread could get going, or if the PP came up big once in a while. Feels like just one goal at times would get the Flames going on a big streak.
Good game, both goalies were great, a good effort on the road. Just needed that 3rd goal before the Jets got it. Onto the next one.
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Ya power play is a huge disappointment. And what 7 OT losses?
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01-03-2023, 08:48 PM
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#53
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zamler
I'll get bullied for saying this, didn't like the winning goal on Markstrom.
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Or you'll simply be criticized for it. The shot was going wide and it was deflected 3 feet from the net. That's how you beat a goalie as on top of his game as Markstrom was tonight.
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01-03-2023, 08:49 PM
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#54
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zamler
I'll get bullied for saying this, didn't like the winning goal on Markstrom.
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the tip?
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01-03-2023, 08:49 PM
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#55
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Join Date: Oct 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamer
No. They played at the same level.
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That's what I saw as well. Weird time for anybody to try to get nitpicky over Markstrom tonight. Both goalies were good.
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01-03-2023, 08:49 PM
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#56
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zamler
I'll get bullied for saying this, didn't like the winning goal on Markstrom.
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I'm with ya, but it was a bit of a tip so....{shrug}...D has to get out of the way, too.
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01-03-2023, 08:49 PM
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#57
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inferno
They don't get traffic in front of net either like the Jets did on the winning goal either.
The goalie pretty pretty much sees every shot and tips are usually from far out where the chance of getting a piece are higher.
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A perfect example was that drop pass from Mangiapane to Backlund. When you watch that play, Mangiapane drops it, then goes to the side of the net and stands there waiting for the shot, providing zero traffic, making it a very easy save.
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01-03-2023, 08:49 PM
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#58
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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If save % is so important, we should just allow more shots on net. Clearly our problem is shot suppression.
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01-03-2023, 08:49 PM
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#59
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamer
Or you'll simply be criticized for it. The shot was going wide and it was deflected 3 feet from the net. That's how you beat a goalie as on top of his game as Markstrom was tonight.
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Yeah maybe the dman could tie up the stick like he is supposed to
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01-03-2023, 08:49 PM
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#60
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamer
Or you'll simply be criticized for it. The shot was going wide and it was deflected 3 feet from the net. That's how you beat a goalie as on top of his game as Markstrom was tonight.
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If anything blame Hanifin for being so soft towards the hobbit.
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