How do we know the Flames can't put him on LTIR? Only necessary if they want to exceed the cap.
In order for a team to place any player on LTIR, a team needs to fill a document(Exhibit 28) stating the injury, the date it happened, and provide the league proper documentation. I don't see it being possible in Kylington's case.
NHL CBA ARTICLE 16.11 Injured Reserve List/Injured Non-Roster
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(e) Any determination that a Player is eligible to be placed on the Injured Reserve
List, or designated as Injured Non-Roster, shall be made by the Club's physician in accordance with the Club's medical standards and documented by a verification signed by the Club physician and countersigned by a Club executive in the forms attached to this Agreement as Exhibit 28 (which shall also be signed by the Player) and 28-A, respectively. Such forms must be received by Central Registry and sent to the NHLPA and the Player, all in accordance with Exhibit 3, prior to the Player being added to the Injured Reserve List or designated as Injured Non-Roster, as applicable.
Here's what the CBA has to say about Kylington's situation
16.12 Non-Roster Player
Spoiler!
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(a) Upon approval of the Commissioner, a Player who is unavailable to play due to reasons other than injury, illness or disability (e.g., birth of a child, attending a funeral) will be designated a Non-Roster Player, and during such period of his designation as such he will not count against the Club's Active Roster limit and his Club may replace such Player, provided, however, that the Non-Roster Player's Player Salary and Bonuses and his replacement's Player Salary and Bonuses are each included in calculating a Club's Actual Club Salary and Averaged Club Salary, and the Players' Share, for purposes of Article 50.
(b) If, as a result of: (i) a Player ("Player A") returning to a Club's Active Roster from
Injured Reserve, or (ii) a Club acquiring a Player ("Player A") via a Trade or Waiver claim, the
Club would exceed its twenty-three (23) man Active Roster limit then, at the time the Player ("Player A") returns to the Club's Active Roster (in the case of (i)) or is added to the Club's Active Roster (in the case of (ii)), the Club may request Waivers on a different Player ("Player B") and also the Club can simultaneously request Non-Roster status for such "Player B." Such request shall be made in writing to Central Registry, with a copy to the NHLPA, all in accordance with Exhibit 3. Upon approval of the Commissioner, such "Player B" will be removed from the Club's Active Roster and the Club may replace such "Player B" with "Player A" on its Active Roster pending the expiration of the Waiver period set forth in Section 13.18. During the period of time "Player B" is granted Non-Roster status, both "Player A's" and "Player B's" Player Salary and Bonuses are included in the Club's Actual and Averaged Club Salary and the Players' Share for purposes of Article 50. At the conclusion of the Waiver period for such "Player B," if he has not been claimed, the Club must immediately (i.e., that day) Loan "Player B" to the Minors.
(c) The Commissioner may take whatever steps he deems necessary to investigate the
circumstances under which a Player is placed, or remains, on the Non-Roster List. If the
Commissioner has reason to believe that Non-Roster status has not been utilized properly by the involved Club, or that requests to designate a Player as Non-Roster are or were in any way improper, or if he determines that the Club has used the Non-Roster List to evade the Active Roster limit or otherwise Circumvent any provision of this Agreement, he may take such disciplinary action against the Club as he deems appropriate.
Source - CBA Article 16 is on Page 124, Exhibit 28(Injured Reserve Form) is on page 400.
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Out of Mackey, DeSimone, and Gilbert, Gilbert is easily the best skater, toughest, and most physical. The other 2 have a far better offensive dimension to their game, but won't play enough, or far enough up the roster to show it anyway.
Out of Mackey, DeSimone, and Gilbert, Gilbert is easily the best skater, toughest, and most physical. The other 2 have a far better offensive dimension to their game, but won't play enough, or far enough up the roster to show it anyway.
Thanks for this. I had essentially the same impression, but haven't seen enough of Gilbert to be confident of that. And I agree that, for the role the Flames need (8 minutes, keep it simple, don't make a mistake, maybe throw a hit or two), Gilbert seems to be the best candidate. That doesn't mean he is the most talented, or has the most upside (those are different conversations), but for what they need right now, he might be the best solution.
Anyway, we'll see. They will likely continue to rotate them, regardless.
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