[Signing] Stars re-sign RFA Oettinger (3 years/12 M, 4 M AAV)

[The Yen Man]

I think this is a fair contract. I wouldn't call it a steal yet. It very well could be. But with goalies, who really knows. Guy could be the next Andrew Hammond, or he can be the next Vasilevskiy. Goalies are such hit or miss.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat

Imagine if the Sharks locked up Wade Flaherty to a long-term deal after his performance against the Flames in '95.

Funny that is exactly what I thought of

Honestly I think he is a good goalie but it's not the first time the Flames made a goalie look like prime Hasek in the playoffs

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

OK, but he was great in the playoffs. One of the best goalie performances of recent memory. What is your point?

Betting on small sample sizes more often than not backfires

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

I think this is a fair contract. I wouldn't call it a steal yet. It very well could be. But with goalies, who really knows. Guy could be the next Andrew Hammond, or he can be the next Vasilevskiy. Goalies are such hit or miss.

Andrew Hammond came out of know where and wasn't that highly rated until his hot streak.

Oettenger has always been very highly rated.

[Enoch Root]

Some of you seem to think Oettinger came out of nowhere to have one great payoff series. That is not the case. He was the first goalie taken in the 2017 draft, in the first round. His WORST GAA in any league was 2.62. His career GAA in the NHL is 2.46, and the Stars haven't been very good over the last couple years.

He's a good goalie.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

He has played 77 games and has a career save percentage of .913.

This is a lot like the Shesterkin contract when it was signed... I don't think the Rangers regret that one and I think it's very unlikely that the Stars will regret this, other than maybe wishing they'd paid him 5x5 or something instead when it expires.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by TheoFleury

Small sample size and goalies are voodoo. Sorry if I wasn't clear, seemed painfully obvious given the countless goalies that have fooled everyone over the past several decades

But this does seem like a fair deal for a young, up-and-coming starter even without the playoff performance of the ages. $4.0 m is not a lot of money in today's NHL.

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[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by TheoFleury

I think if Dallas played any other team, we probably wouldn't be talking about this

I think this is nonsense. The Flames were absolutely dominant in that series, and had one if the highest XGF% in the playoffs.

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[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

He's an average/sightly above average goalie who had arguably the single best playoff series of the last 20+ years.

If he's even half the goalie he was in the Playoffs, the contract is a steal. As it stands, this contract is more than fair, if not still a slight steal for the Stars.

Young goalie with great potential, but nowhere close to being in the top 5 conversation just because of a single Playoff series. At least not yet.

You could argue his stats would be a lot better if there was a better defensive/200 foot team playing in front of him.

The Stars in the regular season with him in net went 30-15-1. Over 82 games that's a 109 point pace, just 2 points shy of what the Flames finished with. He single handedly makes the Stars a better team.

[AustinL_NHL]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

You could argue his stats would be a lot better if there was a better defensive/200 foot team playing in front of him.

The Stars in the regular season with him in net went 30-15-1. Over 82 games that's a 109 point pace, just 2 points shy of what the Flames finished with. He single handedly makes the Stars a better team.

Don't let the Stars' defensive collapse in the Playoffs fool you.

Over the two seasons that Oettinger has been in the NHL, the Stars rank:

- 5th in xGA/60 (2.2)
- 5th in SCA/60 (24.38)
- 4th in HDCA/60 (9.68)

Can't have too much better of a defensive team in front of you.

[Mathgod]

Last season, in 5 on 5 GA/60, the Stars were 13th in the NHL at 2.39. Sort of a middle of the road team.

Oettinger was 11th in the NHL in that category at 2.31 (minimum 2000 minutes played). So he more than pulled his weight relative to his team.

And perhaps most telling, the Stars were 30-15-1 with him, and 16-15-5 without.

Then came the playoffs, where he had a performance of the ages. Yes I do place a premium on playoff performance (as anyone should).

[AustinL_NHL]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Last season, in 5 on 5 GA/60, the Stars were 13th in the NHL at 2.39. Sort of a middle of the road team.

Oettinger was 11th in the NHL in that category at 2.31 (minimum 2000 minutes played). So he more than pulled his weight relative to his team.

And perhaps most telling, the Stars were 30-15-1 with him, and 16-15-5 without.

Then came the playoffs, where he had a performance of the ages. Yes I do place a premium on playoff performance (as anyone should).

Using the minimum 2000 minutes played criteria, Oettinger ranked as follows among the 26 goalies that played that much 5v5.

- 15th in GSAA (3.96)
- 13th in SV% (.920)
- 19th in Average Goal Distance (22.28)
- 4th in HDSV% (.856) <- impressive

Using the same criteria for All Situations, Oettinger ranked as follows among the 34 goalies that played that much:

- 14th in GSAA (9.77)
- 14th in SV% (.914)
- 31st in Average Goal Distance (22.61)
- 3rd in HDSV% (.855)

All in all, aside from his impressive HDSV% and poor Average Goal Distance, Oettinger was about as middle-of-the-pack as goalies could be last season.

Good young goalie with lots of potential, but as of right now, 7 godly games aside, he's merely a good goalie and nothing more.

Still, good contract for the Stars.

[Mathgod]

All-situation stats don't mean much as each goalie plays different amounts of time on the PK, the PP, etc.

Oettinger has all the signs of a young, improving goalie who has just begun to hit his stride.

[Sandman]

I watched Oettinger since his draft year, and I prayed the Flames would take him at #16-but they took Valimaki instead. There were many that knew that Otts would turn into the goalie he is today, and he hasn't even hit his ceiling yet. He will haunt us for many years to come.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I watched Oettinger since his draft year, and I prayed the Flames would take him at #16-but they took Valimaki instead. There were many that knew that Otts would turn into the goalie he is today, and he hasn't even hit his ceiling yet. He will haunt us for many years to come.

His movements are so methodical and he’s as level headed in his abilities as they come. Visibly at least.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

His movements are so methodical and he’s as level headed in his abilities as they come. Visibly at least.

And his numbers at every level are good, after being drafted out of college-not a lot of goalies are at that level at that age.

[dino7c]

I said it was fair

If he is as good as some of you think they really should have locked him up longer because they will be paying a lot more in 3 years.

Dallas is a good defensive team though

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I said it was fair

If he is as good as some of you think they really should have locked him up longer because they will be paying a lot more in 3 years.

Dallas is a good defensive team though

100% they should have locked him up, because he will cost an arm and a leg when that deal is up.

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by TheoFleury

I think if Dallas played any other team, we probably wouldn't be talking about this

Why do you think that? Is it your opinion the Flames didn’t have finishers and did not have high danger opportunities?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by VilleN

Why do you think that? Is it your opinion the Flames didn’t have finishers and did not have high danger opportunities?

Other than game 1 against the Oilers the Flames did a terrible job of finishing their chances in the playoffs...its hard to say how tough of an opponent Dallas actually had considering how it went after that.