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Old 04-08-2022, 12:40 PM   #41
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There's always several large pickup trucks in the James Short parkade taking up more than one space, I don't know why CPA doesn't ticket those #######s. It's lost revenue for them
They should have truck parking spaces that you must buy if you have a truck(or monster SUV) that are 1.5 spaces wide, but they charge double for them. Time to disincentivize commuting in these things.
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They should have truck parking spaces that you must buy if you have a truck(or monster SUV) that are 1.5 spaces wide, but they charge double for them. Time to disincentivize commuting in these things.
Or simply ban any vehicle over a certain height from underground parkades. If you want to use a pickup as your downtown daily driver then park it outside where it's less of an inconvenience for others
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Or simply ban any vehicle over a certain height from underground parkades. If you want to use a pickup as your downtown daily driver then park it outside where it's less of an inconvenience for others
They effectively are with the height restrictions. Otherwise if your vehicle fits in the parkade you should be able to fit it between the lines if you have any skill whatsoever. I parked my old pickup in James Short for years and never had issues.
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He chose to focus on the lesser of three evils here. Made excuses and then assumptions. I called it out with hyperbole/sarcasm. Sorry
He's not wrong though, the Tesla driver took a bad situation and escalated it. The driver of the Mercedes that boxed him in and the driver of the 4Runner who kicked his mirrors off are worse, no doubt. Everybody sucks here.
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There just seems more and more anger in this city these days. As such cases like this are more frequent in Calgary where tempers flare and drivers regress to childish behaviour and do stupid things

Here's a recent incident on Westbound Glenmore where a Red Tesla was forced to stop and the driver of a 4 Runner kicks out their side mirrors

Check out the YouTube comments. Tweedledum and tweedledee are doxed.

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Old 04-08-2022, 02:23 PM   #46
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Here's the CTV news clip:

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=2419029

Nothing new from it.
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I loved the comments on this one

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He's not wrong though, the Tesla driver took a bad situation and escalated it. The driver of the Mercedes that boxed him in and the driver of the 4Runner who kicked his mirrors off are worse, no doubt. Everybody sucks here.
Fair enough. I didn't say the Tesla owner wasn't wronged, but it's pretty close to victim blaming a bit.

If someone irrationally and disproportionately escalates a situation past all sense of civility, can we truly blame the victim?

If said 4 Runner driver pulled out a gun and shot the Tesla owner can we say "well that idiot escalated it?"

I know, i know. Im slippery sloping here, but I just don't see how you can watch this video and be like, "you know what, F that POS Tesla driver for making 4Runner guy mad!"
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Fair enough. I didn't say the Tesla owner wasn't wronged, but it's pretty close to victim blaming a bit.
It's not even remotely close to victim blaming.

Tesla dude doesn't brake test him and it's over. Nothing further even happens.
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CTV article says police are seeking suspects. Are they that hard to find if they can quickly pull the vehicle owner and home address?
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Fair enough. I didn't say the Tesla owner wasn't wronged, but it's pretty close to victim blaming a bit.

If someone irrationally and disproportionately escalates a situation past all sense of civility, can we truly blame the victim?

If said 4 Runner driver pulled out a gun and shot the Tesla owner can we say "well that idiot escalated it?"

I know, i know. Im slippery sloping here, but I just don't see how you can watch this video and be like, "you know what, F that POS Tesla driver for making 4Runner guy mad!"
The Tesla owner isn't a victim...the Tesla owner should be charged for dangerous driving, have his license suspended and car impounded for what he did. Intentional brake checking considered a crime in most jurisdictions including Alberta.

Spitting in someone's face and getting punched for it as retaliation, doesn't make you a victim.

The 2 brothers will get found and rightfully charged, and likely lose their license and car impounded. Their actions will have harsher consequences.

Their stupid retaliatory actions doesn't condone what the Tesla driver did.

#### brake checkers. A brake check on a highway isn't ####ing cheeky, it's dangerous and criminal. He instigated and was an active participant in this road rage incident. He simply didn't factor in the Mercedez boxing him in.

Victim? Please. All 3 are boneheads that shouldn't have a license.

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4Runner guy cuts off Tesla - 4Runner guy sucks a bit.
Tesla guy brake-checks 4Runner guy - Dick move immediately creates a dangerous situation that requires driver behind to slam their brakes or swerve which could itself cause a collision. Tesla guy is now the ####tiest person in the interaction.
4Runner and Mercedes now box the Tesla in, stop on an exit ramp, 4Runner guy gets out and kicks the mirrors off the car - 4Runner has lost his mind and Mercedes guy is helping to create a very dangerous situation here. Everyone sucks here.
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Seize all three vehicles. Take the two brothers to one rural location with bats and the Tesla. Take the Tesla driver to another location with the Mercedes and the 4Runner. Let em have at er, then make em walk home.
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Everyone’s complaining about high gas prices but stomping the gas pedal (and brake pedal) hasn’t decreased. I’ve seen so many borderline and poor driving decisions the last two weeks. Including in the Costco parking lot and gas station lineup where lanes were being invented too. Too many uptight entitled drivers. An even better reason to pro-actively try to change to non typical commute times or methods.
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I'm not excusing brake-checking in any way, but it's only really dangerous when cars are following too close (though I acknowledge there are times - especially weave zones - when cars have to be too close). Not being prepared to slow down/stop is how 2 car accidents turn into 20 car pileups.
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I'm not excusing brake-checking in any way, but it's only really dangerous when cars are following too close (though I acknowledge there are times - especially weave zones - when cars have to be too close). Not being prepared to slow down/stop is how 2 car accidents turn into 20 car pileups.
They cut in front of the 4Runner with the intent of brake-checking them as retaliation for the cut-off, so I'd say pretty much meets the definition of a dangerous maneuver. Also, a brake-check when no one is behind you isn't a brake-check.
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They cut in front of the 4Runner with the intent of brake-checking them as retaliation for the cut-off, so I'd say pretty much meets the definition of a dangerous maneuver. Also, a brake-check when no one is behind you isn't a brake-check.
How do you know that for sure though. I don't see them cutting in front of 4runner I see them returning to the lane they were originally in.

There is a vehicle in front of them (pathfinder?) when they return to their lane and we don't see anymore front videos to determine if they had to brake for another reason. The 4 runner swerved at them from the side getting them to change lands and then the mercedes sped in front to cut them off.
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What are people talking about brake check? There is no brake check here.

Tesla is in his lane, gets cut off by the 4-runner, speeds up and goes around and wants to exit soon so gets back into the middle lane. There is some black Nissan there already and you can see from the initial angle he is catching up to him, so when he moved back to the middle he has to slow down for the black nissan - which is the slowing we see from the rear angle of the video.

He then gets the 4-runner coming up on him and moves over to his exit lane, you can then again see the black Nissan SUV in the middle lane as the 4-runner gets stuck behind it and the Mercedes has to go around it to cut the Tesla off.

The Tesla is 100% of the victim. There isn't a "brake check" there is a slowing down for traffic in front of him.
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What are people talking about brake check? There is no brake check here.

Tesla is in his lane, gets cut off by the 4-runner, speeds up and goes around and wants to exit soon so gets back into the middle lane. There is some black Nissan there already and you can see from the initial angle he is catching up to him, so when he moved back to the middle he has to slow down for the black nissan - which is the slowing we see from the rear angle of the video.

He then gets the 4-runner coming up on him and moves over to his exit lane, you can then again see the black Nissan SUV in the middle lane as the 4-runner gets stuck behind it and the Mercedes has to go around it to cut the Tesla off.

The Tesla is 100% of the victim. There isn't a "brake check" there is a slowing down for traffic in front of him.
4Runner changes lanes to let merging traffic in, Tesla changes lanes and passes then pulls back into the middle lane, I can only assume the Tesla honked at the 4runner to set him off, it was a bit of an unsafe lane change but nothing to freak out about. The brake check happens when the tesla is in the middle lane, 4runner drives up faster and thats when the Tesla brakes and the 4runner swerves and then serves into the telsa.

There is also a gap in footage before they stop the tesla so no clue what happened in that time period.
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4Runner changes lanes to let merging traffic in, Tesla changes lanes and passes then pulls back into the middle lane, I can only assume the Tesla honked at the 4runner to set him off, it was a bit of an unsafe lane change but nothing to freak out about. The brake check happens when the tesla is in the middle lane, 4runner drives up faster and thats when the Tesla brakes and the 4runner swerves and then serves into the telsa.

There is also a gap in footage before they stop the tesla so no clue what happened in that time period.
But I don't see this as a brake check. You can see from the forward footage at the time of the cut-off there is a black SUV already in the middle lane. The Tesla swerves to the left lane and accelerates, and you can see he is much faster than that Black SUV. He then reenters that middle lane while there is a safe distance between the Black SUV in front the the guy that cut him off behind. He then has to slow down since at the time the camera switched angles he was overtaking the black SUV. I guarantee if we see the front footage of the braking action it is to prevent the Tesla from running into the ass end of the black SUV.

There probably was a honk when he had to swerve, and he should have honked to alert the 4runner that he was in the lane and had to make a evasive maneuver.
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