Practice notes March 24 - Monahan & Lewis to be scratched next game?

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by TheoFleury

Doesn't Monahan have like 9 ES goals in his last 100+ games?

'How exactly can he contribute?' is my question. He's a good guy people feel sorry for but in terms of results the Flames could dress 11 F / 7 D the rest of the way and never play him once and there would be no impact on results IMO. Just as useless and overpaid as James Neal was but he's a nice guy and we drafted him so lots of people want to defend him I guess

Monahan is nowhere close to being as ineffective as James Neal and his contract has been great value for the majority of its duration. Give your head a shake.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Hopefully this wakes Monahan up.

I don’t think his effort or desire is in question. He just lacks and ability to play the checking style Darryl requires from his players. It’s not his game and it’s not in his DNA.

[ComixZone]

I Really do wish we’d get to see Monahan play with speedier wingers.

Pelletier - Monahan - Phillips couldn’t be worse than what the 4th line has been as of late. Hopefully come playoff time…

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Monahan is nowhere close to being as ineffective as James Neal and his contract has been great value for the majority of its duration. Give your head a shake.

I don't think anyone is questions his value over the length of the contract. The fact remains, he's an ineffective player for a few years now, and his contract prevents him from being traded.

No one is attacking him for his past contributions. In fact, I'd say everyone understands that injuries have played a huge roll in where he is today.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I Really do wish we’d get to see Monahan play with speedier wingers.

Pelletier - Monahan - Phillips couldn’t be worse than what the 4th line has been as of late. Hopefully come playoff time…

All that would do is slow down his wingers.

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

I don’t think his effort or desire is in question. He just lacks and ability to play the checking style Darryl requires from his players. It’s not his game and it’s not in his DNA.

I wouldn't even say that it's a checking style. It's just a 2-way style. I would never say that Gaudreau is a checking player but he has adapted perfectly to Darryl's 200 foot game and has been rewarded with career highs for it.

[Toonage]

Lou went on another misguided rant yesterday during his time on the Big Show. Again, unable to separate the person from the player and suggesting that if people think Carpenter is an upgrade right now, they're wrong (paraphrasing, of course). That Monahan's problem is between his ears.

I have no doubt his head isn't right, but thats because his body isn't right anymore and he's having a hard time with it. But to suggest that Monahan isn't scoring simply because of confidence? That would be nice, but I don't think thats the case unfortunately.

[SuperMatt18]

Monahan's struggles have largely been shooting percentage driven, and it's been magnified by played in a role that doesn't suit him at all.

I'll post this all season but here are his 7 most common line combinations - you will notice a trend of where his line has had strong xGF% vs where it's been bad.



Stop playing him with Lucic and Lewis and maybe you see an actual turnaround, but he's never going to help the team in that role with those linemates.

[Red_Baron]

I'd sit Lucic for tomorrow night and sit Monahan against the oilers-or maybe sit Monahan for both just to get re-focused.

Do something to get Lucic to play his former teammates with the passion (and hopefully anger) a player should have against a team that sees fit to pay him not to be there.

[CsInMyBlood]

Why do people think Lucic deserves to sit over Monahan?

Lucic has more even strength goals (8) than Monahan does (3).

16 points to Monahans 9.

More disciplined. Lucic has taken less minor penalties (8), to Monahans (12)

Looch -6 to Monahans -16

Leads the team in hits with 155.

Is one of the toughest guys in the league.

Lucic has brought so much more than Monahan this year. Its not even remotely debatable.

Getting away from can't do anything Sean Monahan on his line might be all he needs. I can't wait to see it.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Monahan's struggles have largely been shooting percentage driven, and it's been magnified by played in a role that doesn't suit him at all.

I'll post this all season but here are his 7 most common line combinations - you will notice a trend of where his line has had strong xGF% vs where it's been bad.



Stop playing him with Lucic and Lewis and maybe you see an actual turnaround, but he's never going to help the team in that role with those linemates.

Yeah, I beat on the drum that Bennett was never set up for success here - and that same drum needs to be banged for Monahan right now. Yeah, Monahan is not that good - but he can better than what he has been, as can the entire 4th line…with different players on it.

Lucic and Lewis serve almost no purpose at this point.

[robertsfanatic]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

I wouldn't even say that it's a checking style. It's just a 2-way style. I would never say that Gaudreau is a checking player but he has adapted perfectly to Darryl's 200 foot game and has been rewarded with career highs for it.

i think Mony is doing well with the 200 foot game but his wingers can't keep possession of the puck for him to get into position for a shot.

on the Johnny, Chucky, Lindholm line there are so many plays where Lindy comes into the zone later and gets a shot teed up for him because his wingers are great and have control until he gets there.

anyway, maybe a break will help him.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

All that would do is slow down his wingers.

I'm not sure if that is how the human body works.

[Stanley]

Originally Posted by CsInMyBlood

Why do people think Lucic deserves to sit over Monahan?

Lucic has more even strength goals (8) than Monahan does (3).

16 points to Monahans 9.

More disciplined. Lucic has taken less minor penalties (8), to Monahans (12)

Looch -6 to Monahans -16

Leads the team in hits with 155.

Is one of the toughest guys in the league.

Lucic has brought so much more than Monahan this year. Its not even remotely debatable.

Getting away from can't do anything Sean Monahan on his line might be all he needs. I can't wait to see it.

Because lately he looks gassed and we need him 100% effective for the playoffs.
Maybe start swapping guys on back-to-backs

[Press Level]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

I think Monny is awake but his toolbox is gone for some reason, or his offensive play was always reliant on others creating the play for him. He reminds me a lot of Jonathan Cheechoo once separated from Thornton.

I suspect that the toolbox is still there. However, after his years of injuries and off-season surgeries, he looks to me like someone who is scared to get hurt again.

[FBI]

Originally Posted by CsInMyBlood

Why do people think Lucic deserves to sit over Monahan?

Lucic has more even strength goals (8) than Monahan does (3).

16 points to Monahans 9.

More disciplined. Lucic has taken less minor penalties (8), to Monahans (12)

Looch -6 to Monahans -16

Leads the team in hits with 155.

Is one of the toughest guys in the league.

Lucic has brought so much more than Monahan this year. Its not even remotely debatable.

Getting away from can't do anything Sean Monahan on his line might be all he needs. I can't wait to see it.

Lucic was damn good early on but is a shell of his early play now. Take the last 20 games instead and compare the two. I’ve never seen someone bobble the puck as much as he has the last 10 games. Kills every play.

[BaconGuy]

Monahan's problems start between the ears. Its very clear he no longer drives to the dirty areas and instead floats around the circles waiting for the dirty work to be done for him. In order for him to stay in this league, he has to play like every game like its his is his last and start to create his own opportunities and build his confidence again

As for his injuries, if he is playing hurt (like we know he does), its time someone sat him down and convinced him he is not doing the team any favours playing at 60%. In fact its very easy to see that Mony at 60% isn't better than anybody on this team anymore.

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I Really do wish we’d get to see Monahan play with speedier wingers.

Pelletier - Monahan - Phillips couldn’t be worse than what the 4th line has been as of late. Hopefully come playoff time…

You want to send Monahan to Stockton?

[YYC in LAX]

The last of the Monohanikans?

[calumniate]

Originally Posted by mile

https://twitter.com/user/status/1507073723064471567

https://twitter.com/user/status/1507073842555998213

thanks - the interview on the flames site is pretty funny!