I want to buy a new sofa

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

could you explain the price then? 43,000 bucks

some custom/designer things are expensive - you can pay that for a purse

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

could you explain the price then? 43,000 bucks

Did you get laid off from Wayfair or something?
This is a such a strange, trivial argument to keep doubling down on.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

could you explain the price then? 43,000 bucks

It appears to be made using top grain leather sofa made with tempered steel and hardwood components. There's also a significant degree of hand finishing:

https://eleanorrigbyhome.com/leather/amadeus/

The price on wayfair is high, but it's not totally out of line, as the couch's regular price is $24k USD:

https://www.perigold.com/furniture/p...-elgy1431.html

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Did you get laid off from Wayfair or something?
This is a such a strange, trivial argument to keep doubling down on.

Because by my experiance and everyone I have ever talked to that bought a couch from Wayfair you will likely spend as much money as you would buying from the Brick or even Ethan Allen, it will arrive and be far cheaper and crappier than you can imagine, you will then try to use the '100% refund if you are not happy' only to be told that you have to pay shipping and handling if you dont want a credit note, so you are out 100 to 200 bucks, wouldnt want anyone else getting scammed by what is a slightly shady sales operation.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Strangely they just have websites and their website has no function to allow you to buy their couches or any pricing, but its on the internet so must be legit!!

Just because there is no ability to buy it off the website doesn't mean that it's not legit. You see this a lot with higher end furniture. You typically don't just buy this type of furniture by adding it to your basket, you buy it through a product dealer or interior design.

And yes, furniture can get this expensive. I remember my wife (interior designer) saying she's speced out custom coffee tables that cost $50K. It's nuts, but there are people out there who will pay it.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

I sat on a $40,000 leather couch once. It was nice but not an extra $35k nice compared to a regular leather couch. They also had a library with the rolling ladder dealio. That house was fancy AF.

[annasuave]

Ah, CP, I’ve missed you. I’ve been away too long. The dialogue in this couch thread kinda reminds me of the Good Ole Days of CP. thanks for the tips, everybody!

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Because by my experiance and everyone I have ever talked to that bought a couch from Wayfair you will likely spend as much money as you would buying from the Brick or even Ethan Allen, it will arrive and be far cheaper and crappier than you can imagine, you will then try to use the '100% refund if you are not happy' only to be told that you have to pay shipping and handling if you dont want a credit note, so you are out 100 to 200 bucks, wouldnt want anyone else getting scammed by what is a slightly shady sales operation.

How many of those people bought a $43,000 couch and not the cheapest thing they could find that wasn’t offensive to their tastes?

You can buy 100% completely unsalvagable crap on Wayfair. You can also buy some really great stuff on Wayfair. The prices between the crap and the good stuff may not be that different from each other. You can replace Wayfair with Amazon and the statement holds true; welcome to the joys of modern online shopping.

As long as you read the reviews carefully before settling on what you’re buying, you should be fine.

[Ducay]

From experience, I would say never ever ever buy a couch without test sitting on one.

Always had Urban Barn couches, and was always happy with them. Bought a pair sight unseen over the phone as local stores had no stock or demo units to try. We figured given they've always been comfortable and good quality for us, can't go wrong. Wrong - they arrive and couches are cheapo pieces; with restocking/pickup fees, returning wasn't practicable so we're suffering through them given the kids are still young and likely to ruin them anyways.

Add in the fact that Wayfair has a 10x worse reputation for sub-par quality (assuming its made in China and not a known reputable brand), I'd sooner light my money on fire. Certain pieces of furniture you can take the risk on, but a couch is not one you should given the feel/comfort and finish makes all the difference. Savings be damned

[CroFlames]

There’s some items on Wayfair with like 40,000+ reviews. I gotta think the product is pretty legit.

[FireFly]

I have never had an issue with anything purchased from Wayfair. I have bought a play kitchen for my little ones, a shower system, an actual bathtub, an ottoman and a trampoline. You know how I got quality products? I read the reviews.

[RichieRich]

Originally Posted by RichieRich

You need to go to Sofa King!
They're SofaKing amazing!
(joking)

I’m disappointed at the lack of juvenile responses. Sigh…
Ya bunch of miserly grinches!!

[blankall]

Originally Posted by RichieRich

I’m disappointed at the lack of juvenile responses. Sigh…
Ya bunch of miserly grinches!!

I'm just glad no one made that Hank Scorpio joke.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Add in the fact that Wayfair has a 10x worse reputation for sub-par quality (assuming its made in China and not a known reputable brand), I'd sooner light my money on fire. Certain pieces of furniture you can take the risk on, but a couch is not one you should given the feel/comfort and finish makes all the difference. Savings be damned

A lot of the well known furniture stores like West Elm also get much of their furniture made overseas, lots from Vietnam.

I imagine the type of furniture store the OP was going to with pushy sales people, are mostly made in China sofas as well.

Regardless of the retailer, finding out where the sofa is made is a good idea

[Shazam]

Birchwood Furniture makes their sofas right here in Calgary. It's good stuff.

Stylus is another sofa manufacturer from BC.

[rotten42]

Originally Posted by blankall

It appears to be made using top grain leather sofa made with tempered steel and hardwood components. There's also a significant degree of hand finishing:

https://eleanorrigbyhome.com/leather/amadeus/

The price on wayfair is high, but it's not totally out of line, as the couch's regular price is $24k USD:

https://www.perigold.com/furniture/p...-elgy1431.html

I take issue with this. "Top grain" leather. Top grain leather implies that it is a split grain leather where they slice through the leather to create a top grain and a bottom grain. What you should be looking for is a full grain leather. This leather isn't split typically sealed. Back in my design school days we had an Italian leather manufacturer do a full day course on leather with us. Most of the crap you see out there is is actually leather is a bottom grain leather that has been imprinted with a texture and sealed. It is why is is usually cold to the touch and not a pliable.

This company here looks a bit off to me. Many of their designs are rip-offs of licensed furniture and they use a lot of bullsh*t marketing terms to trick people into thinking their quality is better than it is and to charge ridiculous retail prices.


In my experience, most people tend to buy for a lifespan of about 5-7 years unless it is a statement piece or licensed classic design like Eames, Mies van der Rohe, Le Corbusier for modern pieces or some contract furniture piece.

All the contract furniture firms sell residential furniture now. They have partnerships with companies like Blue Dot, West Elm, Extremis, etc and many more. The thing about their partnerships is they often (not always) build the same furniture you can get in a retail store but they are built to a tougher standard. The frames can be stronger and they will use a higher density foam in the cushions....at a much better price than retail.

[Shazam]

I change my sofas when I can't remove the sex smell.

[rotten42]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

A lot of the well known furniture stores like West Elm also get much of their furniture made overseas, lots from Vietnam.

I imagine the type of furniture store the OP was going to with pushy sales people, are mostly made in China sofas as well.

Regardless of the retailer, finding out where the sofa is made is a good idea

Depends. A lot of West Elm product is also made in the US. It really depends on what channel it comes through.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by rotten42

I take issue with this. "Top grain" leather. Top grain leather implies that it is a split grain leather where they slice through the leather to create a top grain and a bottom grain. What you should be looking for is a full grain leather. This leather isn't split typically sealed. Back in my design school days we had an Italian leather manufacturer do a full day course on leather with us. Most of the crap you see out there is is actually leather is a bottom grain leather that has been imprinted with a texture and sealed. It is why is is usually cold to the touch and not a pliable.

This company here looks a bit off to me. Many of their designs are rip-offs of licensed furniture and they use a lot of bullsh*t marketing terms to trick people into thinking their quality is better than it is and to charge ridiculous retail prices.


In my experience, most people tend to buy for a lifespan of about 5-7 years unless it is a statement piece or licensed classic design like Eames, Mies van der Rohe, Le Corbusier for modern pieces or some contract furniture piece.

All the contract furniture firms sell residential furniture now. They have partnerships with companies like Blue Dot, West Elm, Extremis, etc and many more. The thing about their partnerships is they often (not always) build the same furniture you can get in a retail store but they are built to a tougher standard. The frames can be stronger and they will use a higher density foam in the cushions....at a much better price than retail.

I wouldn't say its that simple with leather. If you want smooth and soft, top grain is the best choice. You would want a different quality of leather on a cushion, as opposed to a boot.

[Sr. Mints]

My last trip to Lazy Boy/Kincaid at Northland mall maybe 8-ish years ago, I found a couch I wanted and l was likely going to buy it there and then. There was no price on it for whatever reason and the salesman said he could give me a pretty good deal on it. But then would not tell me the f'n price unless I put a deposit down first

I just left, chuckled to myself incredulously and went to the south location where I bought the same couch. Because, y'know, I needed a couch - the only reason I went into the store to begin with

Do people fall for those kind of high pressure tactics? Who has the energy or desire to even put up with that ####