Spider-Man: No Way Home Spoilers Thread

[Cecil Terwilliger]

I would absolutely love a Kingpin hires Kraven to kill Spidey movie. A formidable foe who isn’t intent on blowing up NY or the world. Just an angry mobster who hires the worlds best hunter.

I don’t see it happening unless a second villain is involved though. Marvel doesn’t do simple and straightforward. It needs to be a massive tentpole with nonstop action. Kraven would be too direct.

[Yamer]

Loved it. Always a great experience to go to a theatre and have people actually cheer and clap at certain scenes.

The only awkward thing about it was the mid-credits scene. Spider-Man doesn't even exist in Tom Hardy's Venom, so how he could be pulled into the MCU based on the parameters of Strange's spell?

That seems like a clumsy way to get Venom into the MCU, especially if it's not going to be Hardy's Venom.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Yamer

Loved it. Always a great experience to go to a theatre and have people actually cheer and clap at certain scenes.

The only awkward thing about it was the mid-credits scene. Spider-Man doesn't even exist in Tom Hardy's Venom, so how he could be pulled into the MCU based on the parameters of Strange's spell?

That seems like a clumsy way to get Venom into the MCU, especially if it's not going to be Hardy's Venom.

Apparently the symbiote has a "network consciousness" with other variants in other realities.

Venom supposedly recognized spider man on the TV when they were teleported in because he knows him through his version in the Raimiverse.

So Venom fulfills Strange's spell, but not Eddie Brock. But since they are one, I guess they were both brought over.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Apparently the symbiote has a "network consciousness" with other variants in other realities.

Venom supposedly recognized spider man on the TV when they were teleported in because he knows him through his version in the Raimiverse.

So Venom fulfills Strange's spell, but not Eddie Brock. But since they are one, I guess they were both brought over.

That's convenient. Was this explained in the scene?

EDIT: Nevermind, I see it was alluded to in Let There Be Carnage. I didn't pay close enough attention.

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Apparently the symbiote has a "network consciousness" with other variants in other realities.

Venom supposedly recognized spider man on the TV when they were teleported in because he knows him through his version in the Raimiverse.

So Venom fulfills Strange's spell, but not Eddie Brock. But since they are one, I guess they were both brought over.

Ya so it works out except the part where the symbiote is left behind.. because if the symbiote is the one who knows Spider-Man and was transported, it would make more sense that the entire symbiote is transported.. but can symbiotes essentially clone themselves by separating?

I dunno. It is what it is, can find holes in anything. It also doesn't mean that Tom Hardy couldn't play Venom in the MCU. We haven't met Eddie Brock in the MCU, no reason it couldn't be literally the same person.

Finish off his Venomverse arc with a third movie and then have him be the MCU Eddie Brock as well..

[djsFlames]

The people at MCU would handle his Venom so much better too.

Him squaring off with Holland, or eventually teaming up would be great.

Am interested to meet the Osborne/Brock/Stacey of the MCU.

[GreenLantern]

Somebody better head over to his house and check on Ridley Scott:

According to The Hollywood Reporter, Marvel Studios and Sony's recently released Spider-Man: No Way Home grossed $253 million in the U.S and a whopping $587.2 million worldwide, beating all of its Marvel Cinematic Universe predecessors. Tom Rothman, Chairman and CEO of Sony Pictures' Motion Picture Group stated, "This weekend's historic Spider-Man: No Way Home results, from all over the world and in the face of many challenges, reaffirm the unmatched cultural impact that exclusive theatrical films can have when they are made and marketed with vision and resolve."

[GGG]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

The people at MCU would handle his Venom so much better too.

Him squaring off with Holland, or eventually teaming up would be great.

Am interested to meet the Osborne/Brock/Stacey of the MCU.

I think Dafoes goblin and Molinas doctor Oct don’t need to be redone. A proper Spidermen Venom symbiote story would be awesome.

[djsFlames]

Vision and resolve eh. I think they mean the nostalgia of three franchises.

Better get spidey 4 in the cooker quick!

Heard they've started on the story for the next arc though and they want there to be less of a wait than there was for fans between FFH and NWH. That was still only 2 and a half years.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by GGG

I think Dafoes goblin and Molinas doctor Oct don’t need to be redone. A proper Spidermen Venom symbiote story would be awesome.

Oh they definitely don't since we've literally just seen them in this universe.

You could have live action Spider Gwen (or maybe they use a G name thats similar but different since it would be weird after Garfield talked about his version of Gwen) and black suit Spiderman for sure when the symbiote finds him. Perhaps we meet a Harry also and he becomes Holland's interim pal while people's memories are wiped.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

That was the major downside, this movie burned thru a big chunk of Spidey’s rogues gallery. Thankfully he’s got one of the deepest. Plus who wanted to see yet another recycled version.

Still have Kraven, Hobgoblin, Venom, Jackal, Scorpion, Morlun, Morbius, Black Cat. Obviously Morbius gets his own movie, Venom is a no doubter and Black Cat would be a catwoman type temp villain/antihero he would eventually team up with.

[djsFlames]

Jacked up Ned as Hobgoblin. A formidable foe!

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

That was the major downside, this movie burned thru a big chunk of Spidey’s rogues gallery. Thankfully he’s got one of the deepest. Plus who wanted to see yet another recycled version.

Still have Kraven, Hobgoblin, Venom, Jackal, Scorpion, Morlun, Morbius, Black Cat. Obviously Morbius gets his own movie, Venom is a no doubter and Black Cat would be a catwoman type temp villain/antihero he would eventually team up with.

Right at the end when strange was casting the spell so everyone forgot peter, it looked like silhouettes of kraven and rhino for sure, there were more but couldnt make them out

Black cat would make a ton of sense for the next movies, assuming he ends up at ESU and meets some new friends

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Jacked up Ned as Hobgoblin. A formidable foe!

I wonder if they do some kinda strange academy story with him now, maybe as a disney+ show at first

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

That was the major downside, this movie burned thru a big chunk of Spidey’s rogues gallery. Thankfully he’s got one of the deepest. Plus who wanted to see yet another recycled version.

Still have Kraven, Hobgoblin, Venom, Jackal, Scorpion, Morlun, Morbius, Black Cat. Obviously Morbius gets his own movie, Venom is a no doubter and Black Cat would be a catwoman type temp villain/antihero he would eventually team up with.

Not sure how you call it burning through them when all the villains already had their own full movies. The fact that we got to see the two best versions of Green Goblin (with a better costume) and Doc Ock a second time is amazing, plus a much improved Electro. Spider-Man now has the most fleshed out rogues gallery of any movie comic hero

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

Not sure how you call it burning through them when all the villains already had their own full movies. The fact that we got to see the two best versions of Green Goblin (with a better costume) and Doc Ock a second time is amazing, plus a much improved Electro. Spider-Man now has the most fleshed out rogues gallery of any movie comic hero

It’s easy to call it that because that’s what it is. They used 5 classic villains in one movie that we now know aren’t going to be appearing in future MCU Spidey movies.

How good they were is irrelevant and has nothing to do with the fact they got used and we now won’t get MCU versions of them. It’s pretty simple actually.

They can be the most fleshed out villains in film history, fact is they used all 5 in one movie and won’t be seeing them again any time soon. We definitely won’t be seeing unique MCU versions.

That means they are now limited in their choices for the next set of movies because they aren’t likely to use any of those 5.

[Hockey_Ninja]

I saw it opening night. I really enjoyed it and felt it fixed my biggest issue with Tom Holland’s Spider-Man: lack of long-lasting consequences for his mistakes. I think it’s gonna be very interesting that he’s pretty much been given a character re-set and that he’s on his own from now on. No Stark tech, no Aunt May or Happy, no girlfriend or his best friend (although he might get them both back next film). It opens up a door to go really deep into his version of Spider-Man.

It was great seeing all three of the live action Spider-Men together. I’d love just a silly movie of the three of them hanging out tbh. Their chemistry was great. Andrew saving MJ was a special moment. I always liked Andrew’s Spider-Man but his films left a lot to be desired.

Willem Dafoe is just a phenomenal actor. He IS The Green Goblin and nobody else can play that role better than him.

Aunt May’s death caught me off-guard and had me tearing up

I’m curious to see where everything goes from here. Gonna be a very different MCU Spider-Man from here on out

[Hemi-Cuda]

After watching Venom 2, I really hope that Tom Hardy gets to be Venom in the MCU, even though he's not in the same universe. He's the only redeeming factor in those movies, and he deserves a shot as the character with competent writers, much like Garfield. I also really want a proper R-rated movie for Venom, maybe they can throw him in Deadpool 3. Seeing those 2 team up would be pretty amazing

[speede5]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

No Stark tech, no Aunt May or Happy, no girlfriend or his best friend (although he might get them both back next film). It opens up a door to go really deep into his version of Spider-Man.

I’m curious what they will do with Happy, Stark, and the avengers. People have forgotten Peter but not Spidey. Even Happy at the grave said he knew May through Spider-Man. There’s definitely some holes in the whole forget Peter plot line.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

It’s easy to call it that because that’s what it is. They used 5 classic villains in one movie that we now know aren’t going to be appearing in future MCU Spidey movies.

How good they were is irrelevant and has nothing to do with the fact they got used and we now won’t get MCU versions of them. It’s pretty simple actually.

They can be the most fleshed out villains in film history, fact is they used all 5 in one movie and won’t be seeing them again any time soon. We definitely won’t be seeing unique MCU versions.

That means they are now limited in their choices for the next set of movies because they aren’t likely to use any of those 5.

I dont think this is necessarily true. All of those characters were from different universes. There's no reason different versions of them can't start popping up in the MCU. In fact, I think it would make sense for Peter to befriend Harry so he can stay close to Norman, who he knows might turn into Goblin, or Dr. Connors who he knows might become the Lizard (and that's why he works for him). Etc..

Those are really the only two I would like to see return in some way. Doc Oc was great but I think his arc can only go one way really.

I really enjoyed it overall. Always really liked Garfield's Spiderman (just not really the movies), so I was happy to have him redeemed a bit. If tehy could some how shell out the dough for Emma Stone as Spider Gwen, it would be amazing. Somehow I doubt she goes for it, but maybe.

What I think I would have liked is a little glimpse into each other Spiderman's current world. Doesn't have to be long, just a little bit when they skipped universes. Garfield explains how he got violent, would have loved to see him almost kill someone before being pulled into the MCU.