10-26-2021, 01:12 PM
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#41
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Monahammer
You're downplaying it. Quenneville, Bowman, Bergevin, and Chevy (and evidently most or all of the players...) all knew about this, allowed the assaulter to continue being in a position of power over the assaultee, trivialized the assault to the point of pestering the asaultee with the memory years later, and allowed the Assaulter to continue on in other jobs where he was in a position to continue assaulting other victims.
This is criminal.
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Thank you for the explanation. I wasn't up to speed on the case and didn't know the extent of it.
That is abhorrent.
I can't believe the club would side with a very replaceable video-coach over an NHL player who is obviously not as easily replaceable.
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10-26-2021, 01:13 PM
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#42
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Looooooooooooooch
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It absolutely boggles my mind that there's these acts can be "brushed aside" so they can focus on the sport...
Strip them of the Stanley Cup I'd say. Or put a giant asterisks beside it. They all knew and don't deserve ####. My god
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10-26-2021, 01:14 PM
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#43
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Franchise Player
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Pretty tough in today's environment to imagine how Coach Q keeps his job.
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10-26-2021, 01:19 PM
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#44
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
These guys decided that a players allegation that a coach sexually abused him was a "distraction" the team didn't need. Allowed the coach to celebrate the Stanley cup get a cup ring then quietly asked him to resign or face an investigation.
After resigning, he used his credentials as part of a cup winning team to help get coaching jobs at a University and high schools where he further assaulted young men.
Then when one of his victims is trying to get something via the courts they claim they didn't have any knowledge until the victim filed in court.
So yeah f them.
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Yup.
Quennville and Cheveldayoff need to be removed from their positions.
Covering it up, and then allowing the person to go work with kids where he can go on to assault them is just as bad as the act itself.
F them all.
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10-26-2021, 01:19 PM
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#45
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kalispell, Montana
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Originally Posted by Goriders
Not really sure what to say after reading some of the stuff above. Couldn’t imagine being the John Doe.
Can’t remember. Was there a civil suit against the team? I’d be going after the organization for damages if I were John Doe.
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The minor player in Houghton, MI should sue them as well.
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10-26-2021, 01:21 PM
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#46
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Looch City
It absolutely boggles my mind that there's these acts can be "brushed aside" so they can focus on the sport...
Strip them of the Stanley Cup I'd say. Or put a giant asterisks beside it. They all knew and don't deserve ####. My god
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I agree. You value winning over human dignity? Well, take away your victory
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10-26-2021, 01:22 PM
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#47
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Canada 02
I agree. You value winning over human dignity? Well, take away your victory
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I don't disagree... but would the player who is the victim want his Cup taken away over this?
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10-26-2021, 01:26 PM
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#48
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
I don't disagree... but would the player who is the victim want his Cup taken away over this?
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I don't think the victim was on the active roster or engraved on the Cup
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10-26-2021, 01:33 PM
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#49
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Even if the victim was on the roster, I somehow doubt he cares overly much about his Cup/ring in this situation.
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10-26-2021, 01:36 PM
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#50
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
Thank you for the explanation. I wasn't up to speed on the case and didn't know the extent of it.
That is abhorrent.
I can't believe the club would side with a very replaceable video-coach over an NHL player who is obviously not as easily replaceable.
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The report sureloss posted has an executive summary that you could read. Nothing was done from the May 23rd meeting until June 16th when Aldrich (video coach) was given the option to resign or face investigation.
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10-26-2021, 01:46 PM
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#51
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
Thank you for the explanation. I wasn't up to speed on the case and didn't know the extent of it.
That is abhorrent.
I can't believe the club would side with a very replaceable video-coach over an NHL player who is obviously not as easily replaceable.
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The old boys club. It sounds like nepotism was involved in the hiring. Aldrich's father, who worked for the San Jose Sharks, got his son a recommendation with the Blackhawks through the connection with Dave Tallon, and the Hawks hired him that day. All those personal connections probably made it that much more inhibitive to be professional about what was going on.
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10-26-2021, 02:01 PM
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#52
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Self Imposed Retirement
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Calgary
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Story for people who don't want to click on many twitter links.
(If it hasn't been posted, I didn't see it.)
https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/
Last edited by Macman; 10-26-2021 at 02:10 PM.
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10-26-2021, 02:04 PM
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#53
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Lethbridge
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What happens with Toews, the team captain at the time who surely knew this was all happening?
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10-26-2021, 02:06 PM
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#54
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
Pretty tough in today's environment to imagine how Coach Q keeps his job.
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It is Florida
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10-26-2021, 02:09 PM
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#55
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by mdubz
What happens with Toews, the team captain at the time who surely knew this was all happening?
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We all get to think less of him.
I understand the coaches and support staff being too cowardly to do anything about this, even though it's contemptible.
The 21 year old captain, franchise player and Conn Smythe winner could've and should've protected his team mate and blown this thing wide open while they were all still covered in champagne.
Instead, he sold his soul for a video coach.
I hope it affects his Hall of Fame candidacy.
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10-26-2021, 02:09 PM
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#56
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Franchise Player
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OMG, it's getting worse and worse.
Disturbing tweet. The Captain certainly knew.
The owners should be punished too ffs. Relegate them to the AHL for a 3 year period.
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10-26-2021, 02:12 PM
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#57
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First Line Centre
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Why should Quenville be held more responsible than anyone else who knew and said nothing? If JQ should lose his job so should Kane, Toews, etc..
Everyone in that locker room knew what happened.
The decisions to smother this came from much higher up than Quenville.
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10-26-2021, 02:14 PM
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#58
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
OMG, it's getting worse and worse.
Disturbing tweet. The Captain certainly knew.
The owners should be punished too ffs. Relegate them to the AHL for a 3 year period. |
Who were the leaders on that team back then? Toews, Kane, Keith, Seabrook?
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10-26-2021, 02:14 PM
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#59
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Originally Posted by HighLifeMan
Why should Quenville be held more responsible than anyone else who knew and said nothing? If JQ should lose his job so should Kane, Toews, etc..
Everyone in that locker room knew what happened.
The decisions to smother this came from much higher up than Quenville.
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They should be all held accountable. But Q and MacIsaac Cheveldayoff and the others were in the room and actively decided to bury this, allegedly.
That makes them far more culpable imo.
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10-26-2021, 02:15 PM
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#60
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
OMG, it's getting worse and worse.
Disturbing tweet. The Captain certainly knew.
The owners should be punished too ffs. Relegate them to the AHL for a 3 year period. |
Right? And we are supposed to believe that Quenneville and others higher up just found out this summer about the allegations when it was common enough knowledge among the organization that other players could openly taunt him about it? It sounds like it wasn't a well kept secret. It makes me wonder if other victims are out there that decided not speak knowing that they would be ignored by management and ridiculed by their peers.
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