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Old 10-15-2021, 09:17 AM   #41
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Points per game and actual points scored are 2 different things.
So you are telling me that, given 30 more games, McAvoy would not get 2 more points and outscore Brodie.
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Old 10-15-2021, 09:20 AM   #42
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My list was in no particular order.
Here's my numbered list... in no particular order though. Just stop.
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I have a feeling this is what a Tkachuk extension looks like
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Seth Jones better than McAvoy... good lord, some people.
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Old 10-15-2021, 09:46 AM   #45
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$9M+ is the new $7M
I need to wrap my head around that. With that context, McAvoy is worth it especially when recent comparable contracts have been signed by inferior defencemen
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More evidence that young stars and potential stars are getting a greater and greater share of the salary cap. Considering the cap has been flat for a couple of years, and will be for a little longer, this obviously means there is less money available for bottom roster players and older veterans.

The GM's can get on top of this the quickest will have a leg up.
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Old 10-15-2021, 10:04 AM   #47
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1. Hedman
2. Makar
3. Heiskanen
4. Seth Jones
5. Werenski
6. John Carlson
7. Hamilton
8. Roman Josi
9. Pietrangelo
10. Quinn Hughes
11. Shea Weber
12. Ekblad
13. Fox
14. Theodore
15. Letang
Duncan Keith a close 16?
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Old 10-15-2021, 10:06 AM   #48
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Seth Jones better than McAvoy... good lord, some people.


Jones angles to the corner for MAF to play it there. It’s a bouncer so he needs to stop it before doing so. And then Jones did… whatever the #### all that was.
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Old 10-15-2021, 10:07 AM   #49
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Charlie Mcavoy 24 8 years 9.5 million per
Quinn Huges 21 6 years 7.85 million per
Darnell Nurse 27 8 years 9.25 million per
Zach Werenski 24 6 years 9.583 million per
Dougie Hamilton 28 7 years 9 million per
Cake Makar 22 6 years 9 million per
Seth Jones 27 8 years 9.5 million per
Miro Heiskanen 21 8 years 8.45 million per
Alex Pietrangelo 30 7 years 8.8 million per (2020)
Roman Josi 30 8 years 9.059 million per (2019)
Thomas Chabot 23 8 years 8 million per (2019)
Jared Spurgeon 30 7 years 7.575 million per (2019)
Jacob Trouba 25 7 years 8 million per (2019)
Erik Karlsson 29 8 years 11.5 million per (2019)
Drew Doughty 29 8 years 11 million per (2018)
OEL 27 8 years 8.25 million per (2018)
John Carlson 8 years 8 million per (2018)
If this list, I'd say Makar, Werenski, Hughes, Heiskenan, Chabot and maybe Trouba are in the same vintage. And of those Makar is the only one clearly better IMO. Makar got 2 fewer years at a younger age, to play for a really good team. Chabot signed 2 years ago - different environment, I'd say. Werenski might be the closest comparable and he's paid almost exactly the same money, for less term.
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I have a feeling this is what a Tkachuk extension looks like
Oh I would love that. Tkachuk locked up for 8 years and $9.5M AAV? Yeah, I'm 100% into that. The moment he signed that contract, I'd hope Treliving would just pick up a red Swingline stapler (the ones that don't bind up as much) and staple the C to Chucky's chest.
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Old 10-15-2021, 10:14 AM   #51
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More evidence that young stars and potential stars are getting a greater and greater share of the salary cap. Considering the cap has been flat for a couple of years, and will be for a little longer, this obviously means there is less money available for bottom roster players and older veterans.



The GM's can get on top of this the quickest will have a leg up.
Paging Mr. Treliving....Brad, are you there? No. Oh well, he tried.
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1. Hedman
2. Makar
3. Heiskanen
4. Seth Jones
5. Werenski
6. John Carlson
7. Hamilton

8. Roman Josi
9. Pietrangelo
10. Quinn Hughes
11. Shea Weber

12. Ekblad
13. Fox
14. Theodore
15. Letang
When you look at play on BOTH ends of the ice, I personally at this point in their careers, would have him ahead of half you picks at first glance
I bolded who I think he's better than right now when you factor in defensive ability, too.
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The real reason that Johnny hasn’t signed yet is he is contemplating becoming a d man for more bucks. D men are getting paid this off-season.
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Dallas absolutely crushed that Heiskenan deal seeing all the extensions like this one, Nurse, Werenski, Jones that followed
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Charlie Mcavoy 24 8 years 9.5 million per
Quinn Huges 21 6 years 7.85 million per
Darnell Nurse 27 8 years 9.25 million per
Zach Werenski 24 6 years 9.583 million per
Dougie Hamilton 28 7 years 9 million per
Cake Makar 22 6 years 9 million per
Seth Jones 27 8 years 9.5 million per
Miro Heiskanen 21 8 years 8.45 million per
Alex Pietrangelo 30 7 years 8.8 million per (2020)
Roman Josi 30 8 years 9.059 million per (2019)
Thomas Chabot 23 8 years 8 million per (2019)
Jared Spurgeon 30 7 years 7.575 million per (2019)
Jacob Trouba 25 7 years 8 million per (2019)
Erik Karlsson 29 8 years 11.5 million per (2019)
Drew Doughty 29 8 years 11 million per (2018)
OEL 27 8 years 8.25 million per (2018)
John Carlson 8 years 8 million per (2018)
To me, his best comparable on that list is Werenski. And their AAVs are about the same.

He is better than some of the other $9M guys.
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Old 10-15-2021, 10:54 AM   #56
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All of these Dman contracts are just crazy this year. That being said this is probably the least crazy one.


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11. Shea Weber
Webs dead man, Webs dead.
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Old 10-15-2021, 10:54 AM   #57
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The real reason that Johnny hasn’t signed yet is he is contemplating becoming a d man for more bucks. D men are getting paid this off-season.
Frankly, if I have a young 1D stud, I probably pay him more than my 1LW, unless we're talking Ovie.
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Old 10-15-2021, 10:57 AM   #58
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I miss having a stud D. I cant remember the last time the Flames D was this thin.
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Old 10-15-2021, 10:58 AM   #59
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I don't get how these GM's think this can work with a flat cap but whatever, McAvoy is more worth the money than a lot of the other recent contracts.

If nothing else, this shows how out of whack the Darnell Nurse contract is. I see he didn't make knighslayer's list either.
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1. Hedman
2. Makar
3. Mcavoy
3. Heiskanen
4. Seth Jones
5. Werenski
6. John Carlson
7. Hamilton
8. Roman Josi
9. Pietrangelo
10. Quinn Hughes
11. Shea Weber
12. Ekblad
13. Fox
14. Theodore
15. Letang
And fixed your post.

Nobody on your list from 4-15 is better than him...well maybe Fox but he's too low on your list too.

And yeah when you look at some of the other contracts it really speaks to how overpaid Darnell Nurse is - but you need to value that he gets points on the PP with McDavid and Draisaitl.

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