[Rumour] Vitali Kravtsov given permission to seek trade

[InternationalVillager]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I'm aware. BTW, it's not a better shooting angle for short side shots. Because the goalie doesn't have to move as much.

You have a point but the Russian game is largely built off transition.

But - its not just russians who play the off side. P. Kane is a pretty elite american player who does so as well. He feeds off the transition game as well.

[genetic_phreek]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I'm aware. BTW, it's not a better shooting angle for short side shots. Because the goalie doesn't have to move as much.

Growing up playing mostly RW and I'm a lefty, I've played C and LW and as a left shot, I prefer being on the right side. You have more net to shoot at because you can drag and shoot on the glove side or keep your stick out and shoot blocker side. When you're on the LW you basically only have a good angle to shoot blocker side.

You're also in better positions to take one timers.

There's always an argument for this but I dislike when players are given preferential selection because they are RS RW. If player is a good RW, who cares which way he shoots.

Speaking of Kravtsov, I'm all for a slick fast skating player. But how do you get a player like this, let him play in top 6 without proving himself? Tough call.

[Monahammer]

The current fixation of wing handedness has to do with systems play and puck possession. Way easier to dump and chase, control the puck on the boards, and battle with your stick facing towards them rather than crossing your body. Ditto puck protection on the rush, you have more room to draw back away from the defender. I also dislike the trend of laser focus on player handedness.

[Harry Lime]

Barre-Boulet just went to the Kraken as a waiver pick up. He is a complementary player that isn't fantastic in his own end, but great hands and can score.

I think that Kravstov has more size and versatility than Barre-Boulet, but needs to be in a similar situation to thrive. He can be a great complementary player, but needs time to work on his overall game.

I don't know if the Flames are in a position to have a player learn the game at an NHL level, but this kid could be really good in a year or two.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

I don't know if the Flames are in a position to have a player learn the game at an NHL level, but this kid could be really good in a year or two.

With Sutter as coach we all know the answer to that question is no. He likes young superstars like Doughty but for the most part it is tough love for guys like Dube/Valimaki and not a smooth ride.

The Kraken, Coyotes, Ducks, Sharks all make a lot of sense to me.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Barre-Boulet just went to the Kraken as a waiver pick up. He is a complementary player that isn't fantastic in his own end, but great hands and can score.

I think that Kravstov has more size and versatility than Barre-Boulet, but needs to be in a similar situation to thrive. He can be a great complementary player, but needs time to work on his overall game.

I don't know if the Flames are in a position to have a player learn the game at an NHL level, but this kid could be really good in a year or two.

I get a Czarnik vibe from Barre-Boulet. A nice player to have in your back pocket for when injuries start mounting, but not a guy you want playing regularly.

Kravstov would be great for a rebuilding team that could afford to give him a development spot in the NHL when team expectations are low, but as mentioned, this does not seem to be Sutter's way of doing things.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

Growing up playing mostly RW and I'm a lefty, I've played C and LW and as a left shot, I prefer being on the right side. You have more net to shoot at because you can drag and shoot on the glove side or keep your stick out and shoot blocker side. When you're on the LW you basically only have a good angle to shoot blocker side.

You're also in better positions to take one timers.

There's always an argument for this but I dislike when players are given preferential selection because they are RS RW. If player is a good RW, who cares which way he shoots.

Speaking of Kravtsov, I'm all for a slick fast skating player. But how do you get a player like this, let him play in top 6 without proving himself? Tough call.

I don't know that he's all that fast or slick. The highlights (which are pretty much all his goals) are not very indicative of speed, and he seems to like outside shots. A few nice stickhandles, but I really need more info.

Originally Posted by Monahammer

The current fixation of wing handedness has to do with systems play and puck possession. Way easier to dump and chase, control the puck on the boards, and battle with your stick facing towards them rather than crossing your body. Ditto puck protection on the rush, you have more room to draw back away from the defender. I also dislike the trend of laser focus on player handedness.

It's more important for D to be on their strong hand IMO. I will say that, for one timers. it still depends where you are shooting. Short side, the goalie has to travel farther to stop a RHS on the RW if it's a short side shot.

[activeStick]

Ha ha, stupid Rangers!! Kind of annoying when someone you drafted doesn't want to play for you, eh?

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

With Sutter as coach we all know the answer to that question is no. He likes young superstars like Doughty but for the most part it is tough love for guys like Dube/Valimaki and not a smooth ride.

The Kraken, Coyotes, Ducks, Sharks all make a lot of sense to me.

Sutter prefers Lewis and Ritchie over any rookies

He better wins because that’s pretty ####ed up

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Sutter prefers Lewis and Ritchie over any rookies

He better wins because that’s pretty ####ed up

Which rookies blew the doors off this year in training camp that you feel are more deserving of ice time than Lewis?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I believe Kravstov is a top six RW.

you do love your Russians

he has done nothing to suggest he is a top 6 winger - at any level

[Enoch Root]

Despite the additions of Coleman and Pitlick, we remain thin at RW. And after Monahan and Coleman, we aren't exactly loaded with shooters. So I would certainly be open to giving him a shot.

How about Edmonton's 3rd for him?

[Enoch Root]

He has decent size, but what about speed?

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

Which rookies blew the doors off this year in training camp that you feel are more deserving of ice time than Lewis?

You are right, I forgot the Flames have only one prospect worthy of 4th line this year…sorry

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

You are right, I forgot the Flames have only one prospect worthy of 4th line this year…sorry

What a crap answer. He asked for a name. You came up with nothing.

[AC]

Ooga booga everything Flames bad.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

You are right, I forgot the Flames have only one prospect worthy of 4th line this year…sorry

You should try to pick a lane and stay in it hoss.

[genetic_phreek]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

He has decent size, but what about speed?

Just going off scouting reports, his skating is one of his main strengths. From highlights he seems to have good wheels.

[Brad Marsh]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Despite the additions of Coleman and Pitlick, we remain thin at RW. And after Monahan and Coleman, we aren't exactly loaded with shooters. So I would certainly be open to giving him a shot.

How about Edmonton's 3rd for him?

Yeah this is where I'm at too. He potentially fills a gap and a need. Worth a shot. NYR have a lot of high end skill up front, so this is exactly the kind of trade that could make sense for both sides.

I'm for sure in with the Oilers 3rd. Would probably be in with the Panthers 2nd.

Easy to make a spot on the roster with Gawdin and Ritchie and/or Stone. Heck, depending on the IR situation, you may not even have to make much room (at least not yet). Didn't look like Pitlick was at practice today.....

So worth a shot. If it doesn't work you haven't overpaid, but if it does, and you've added a bit more scoring pop to the top 9 with a player at a good age, then that's kind of win this roster needs right now.

[GioforPM]

One thing about him to keep in mind is that he’s an RFA after this season. Could be adding a headache