Coleman to have hearing for boarding Update: Suspended 1 pre & 1 reg season game

[dino7c]

TSN had a top 10 controversial calls in HOCKEY history show

2 of them were against the Flames, it's not a homer take the Flames are one of the teams that always gets screwed.

If this is a suspension almost every boarding call ever is. Lucic got a penalty for punching a guy in the face in a scrum...you will be hard pressed to find a game where that doesn't happen. See last nights game.

Flames players seem to be given one gamers when Edmonton is up next too...Gio a couple years back

[SuperMatt18]

The Lucic one is one that still gets me.

That literally happens countless every season where a guy punches another guy in a scrum , and somehow he got 2 games for it.

Had he just dropped his gloves and grabbed the guy and started punching him (ala Tkachuk and Kassian) then I guess it's just a 5 minute major and no suspension.

How was this a 2 game suspension. https://www.nhl.com/video/lucic-susp...360/c-70105303 So ridiculous.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by stang

I didn’t think it was that bad. Penalty for sure. Fine… I guess. I don’t think it’s suspension worthy though

There certainly wasn't much oomph behind it. Definite an in-game penalty call, but I can't see how this would merit a suspension considering the level of play that still seems to regularly avoid further discipline.

[Icantwhisper]

Originally Posted by dino7c

TSN had a top 10 controversial calls in HOCKEY history show

2 of them were against the Flames, it's not a homer take the Flames are one of the teams that always gets screwed.

If this is a suspension almost every boarding call ever is. Lucic got a penalty for punching a guy in the face in a scrum...you will be hard pressed to find a game where that doesn't happen. See last nights game.

Flames players seem to be given one gamers when Edmonton is up next too...Gio a couple years back

I'm sure fans of every team think they are getting screwed, Flames draw lots of penalties, doesn't 19 draw the most in the league over the last few years?
Everyone here thinking we're getting screwed just reinforces each others opinions that we are.
So what is he got a penalty for a punch, maybe the ref's warned everyone to cut it out and he kept going. Every team can show you examples of guys getting punched and no penalty getting called then one jab back and you're the one called.
The guy was on his knees and Coleman hit him in the numbers 6 inches from the boards, NHL wants to get rid of it I can see a game.
We all make fun of D Sedin taking 10 punches to the face from Marchand, no penalty, happens to all teams.
We aren't the victims we pretend to be.

[Goriders]

The guy got up and started fighting. Coleman was kicked out of the game.

I don’t think I’d suspend him. Maybe if it was a non contact beer league.

It’s not the

No
Hit
League

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I tell myself every day that I am imagining it, but I have to say that with every single call from the officials and the league, I am left with the distinct impression that the Flames are treated differently than most teams. There appear to be 'marked' teams, and the Flames appear to be one of them.

With respect to this hit, was it in the back? Absolutely. Have I seen 5 to 10 hits so far in the pre-season that were at least as blatant in the same regard? But didn't get reviewed? Absolutely.

I have little doubt that the officials over the summer are provided a list of teams they are to play a close eye on and the Flames are one of them. Flames probably didn't help their cause bringing in some players that have traditionally been highly penalized but I get the feeling this upcoming season is going to closely resemble the season after the Wideman incident when the Flames overnight went from least penalized to most.

[Icantwhisper]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I have little doubt that the officials over the summer are provided a list of teams they are to play a close eye on and the Flames are one of them. Flames probably didn't help their cause bringing in some players that have traditionally been highly penalized but I get the feeling this upcoming season is going to closely resemble the season after the Wideman incident when the Flames overnight went from least penalized to most.

So is this the refs picking on us or players like Gubrandson taking the regular amount of penalties they take in a year?
How many tripping penalties are we going to see when McDavid or Pettersson get to Gubrandons outside and blow by him?
There are so many more variables than the jersey on the back of the player, you bring in physical guys to play D the line gets crossed more often, get more penalties.

We will see bad calls against us yes, but some will go our way too.
Like fans of all teams, the ones that are missed or penalize us sting more and we recall them better.

[BigFlameDog]

I'm no shrinking violet but if you are surprised he is getting a hearing after that then I don't know what to tell you. Guy was on his knees, vulnerable and Coleman very definitely leaned into it with his shoulder right in the back of his head....driving his face into the dasher.

That was unnecessarily dangerous. Has nothing to do with what has and hasn't been called in the preseason. That was a dumbarse play by Coleman. Its all about vulnerability of the player and that could have ended bad for the Jet.

[Icantwhisper]

Last year were the exact middle of the league for team penalties, TB had the most and Chicago the least.
So in theory taking more is better

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Goriders

The guy got up and started fighting. Coleman was kicked out of the game.

I don’t think I’d suspend him. Maybe if it was a non contact beer league.

It’s not the

No
Hit
League

Coleman got 2 minutes for the hit. They both got 10 minutes later on.

[CaptainYooh]

I admit this was all perception, but for some reason Coleman looked a lot bigger and meaner during the playoffs. He looks kind of small(-ish) now.

[Johnny Makarov]

The ref whining is already over the top and it's not even the regular season yet.

Just accept the fact that the Refs SUCK for every team.

So if a Jet hit Monahan or Tkachuk into the boards like that you guys would be ok with it? ... yeah right.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dino7c

TSN had a top 10 controversial calls in HOCKEY history show

2 of them were against the Flames, it's not a homer take the Flames are one of the teams that always gets screwed.

If this is a suspension almost every boarding call ever is. Lucic got a penalty for punching a guy in the face in a scrum...you will be hard pressed to find a game where that doesn't happen. See last nights game.

Flames players seem to be given one gamers when Edmonton is up next too...Gio a couple years back

No goal in 04 and what else.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Remember the Tkachuk suspension against Detroit?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Icantwhisper

So is this the refs picking on us or players like Gubrandson taking the regular amount of penalties they take in a year?
How many tripping penalties are we going to see when McDavid or Pettersson get to Gubrandons outside and blow by him?
There are so many more variables than the jersey on the back of the player, you bring in physical guys to play D the line gets crossed more often, get more penalties.

We will see bad calls against us yes, but some will go our way too.
Like fans of all teams, the ones that are missed or penalize us sting more and we recall them better.

You are right. Maybe I should change my post and add something along the lines of; Flames probably didn't help their cause bringing in some players that have traditionally been highly penalized.. Oh wait..

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I have little doubt that the officials over the summer are provided a list of teams they are to play a close eye on and the Flames are one of them. Flames probably didn't help their cause bringing in some players that have traditionally been highly penalized but I get the feeling this upcoming season is going to closely resemble the season after the Wideman incident when the Flames overnight went from least penalized to most.

Last part is facts. Post Wideman, Even Johnny went from 2 penalties all season to 13 and 12 the following years. He had 3 minors last season. When Johnny hockey is getting a dozen penalties in a year there is something going on.

[Icantwhisper]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

You are right. Maybe I should change my post and add something along the lines of; Flames probably didn't help their cause bringing in some players that have traditionally been highly penalized.. Oh wait..

My apologies, thought you were saying we were going to be unjustly punished penalty wise while also bring in traditionally high penalty guys.
My bad

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

I admit this was all perception, but for some reason Coleman looked a lot bigger and meaner during the playoffs. He looks kind of small(-ish) now.

He has played two preseason games and certainly looked mean last night and was a major factor.

Like it or not that hit changed the game. Coleman got an assist when he got out of the box and then they got a PP and tied it up right after when the Jets attacked him.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

No goal in 04 and what else.

Calgary/LA in the playoffs in the 90s

Flames scored, didn't count, Kings won in OT...southern US team. Stop me if this sounds familiar.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Icantwhisper

I'm sure fans of every team think they are getting screwed, Flames draw lots of penalties, doesn't 19 draw the most in the league over the last few years?
Everyone here thinking we're getting screwed just reinforces each others opinions that we are.
So what is he got a penalty for a punch, maybe the ref's warned everyone to cut it out and he kept going. Every team can show you examples of guys getting punched and no penalty getting called then one jab back and you're the one called.
The guy was on his knees and Coleman hit him in the numbers 6 inches from the boards, NHL wants to get rid of it I can see a game.
We all make fun of D Sedin taking 10 punches to the face from Marchand, no penalty, happens to all teams.
We aren't the victims we pretend to be.

Okay show me an example of a guy getting a 2 game suspension for a single head on gloved punch....waiting

Your Sedin example supports my argument by the way so thanks...Marchand was allowed to do it 10 times with nothing.