Friedmans "Night before the draft" thoughts

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

I think Canada is a better place to raise children for low income families. For wealthy families the US has far more to offer IMO.

If you have lots of money the states are better than canada.

If you have less money the socialist (soon to be communist) state of canada is probably the better bet.

US is more of an every man for himself model. User pay system. Canada is slowly becoming a nanny state. So way higher taxes to fund the nanny.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Goriders

If you have lots of money the states are better than canada.

If you have less money the socialist (soon to be communist) state of canada is probably the better bet.

US is more of an every man for himself model. User pay system. Canada is slowly becoming a nanny state. So way higher taxes to fund the nanny.

This is important to note because some players are probably ALSO dumb enough to think Canada is close to becoming a Communist country.

DeAngelo? You read this? Stay away! It’s all Marxists and forced labour!

[CroFlames]

When I was a boy, my dream was to play in the NHL.

When I became a man, my dream was to play for the Ducks or Kings exclusively, and live on the water in a high end neighborhood and send my kids to private schools, and drive an exotic sports car year round. Build a massive summer home back home to visit family.

Basically, the Ryan Getzlaf lifestyle.

[Vinny01]

In my opinion the worst thing about NHL contracts are the amount of trade protection players get in their deals. Compared to the other major sports in North America it is not even close.

Not only do you not have players who won’t sign in Canada but a huge amount of players have the ability to block trades to Canadian teams.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Goriders

If you have less money the socialist (soon to be communist) state of canada is probably the better bet.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

In my opinion the worst thing about NHL contracts are the amount of trade protection players get in their deals. Compared to the other major sports in North America it is not even close.

Not only do you not have players who won’t sign in Canada but a huge amount of players have the ability to block trades to Canadian teams.

This isn't entirely true

NBA has a clause for players to veto trade :

A player who re-signs with his previous team on a one-year contract – or a two-year deal with an option year – is given no-trade protection. So is a player who signs an offer sheet and has that offer matched by his previous team. Players who accept one-year qualifying offers after their rookie contracts expire also receive veto power.

Players can also veto trades that would void their early bird rights

MLB has what is called 10 and 5 rights:

Players who have accrued 10 years of Major League service time and spent the past five consecutive years with the same team are awarded 10-and-5 rights. Under these circumstances, a player can veto any trade scenario that is proposed

So there are very different rules for different leagues how No trade works. NHL is just 'different'

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

This isn't entirely true

NBA has a clause for players to veto trade :

A player who re-signs with his previous team on a one-year contract – or a two-year deal with an option year – is given no-trade protection. So is a player who signs an offer sheet and has that offer matched by his previous team. Players who accept one-year qualifying offers after their rookie contracts expire also receive veto power.

Players can also veto trades that would void their early bird rights

MLB has what is called 10 and 5 rights:

Players who have accrued 10 years of Major League service time and spent the past five consecutive years with the same team are awarded 10-and-5 rights. Under these circumstances, a player can veto any trade scenario that is proposed

So there are very different rules for different leagues how No trade works. NHL is just 'different'

He's right though. In practice, this means that fewer players in those leagues actually get movement protection. It's much more restrictive compared to the NHL and harder for a player to qualify for that right.

The NHL just allows it willynilly and it bones half the league and almost all the Canadian teams.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

He's right though. In practice, this means that fewer players in those leagues actually get movement protection. It's much more restrictive compared to the NHL and harder for a player to qualify for that right.

The NHL just allows it willynilly and it bones half the league and almost all the Canadian teams.

If hockey had baseballs rules any rookie who had played as a 18 year old would have full trade veto by 28 if still on original team.

If you look at most of the NTC's it is for players who would be at or very close to MLB's 10 and 5 rule.

The reason it isn't a big deal in MLB is players don't play at 18. So usually to get your 10 years service you are in your early 30's.

Again - It is just different rules that the players and teams negotiate .

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Goriders

If you have less money the socialist (soon to be communist) state of canada is probably the better bet.
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Ooooh, you're an idiot. I get it now.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by agulati

Our pick is still officially going to be pick #13. Arizona’s pick #11, is going to be “forfeited”, but the numbers after that pick aren’t going to change. This is similar to last year. Yan Kuznetsov was pick #50, even though he was the 49th player picked.

When I count the selections as they happen tonight, Chicago's is going to be the 11th selection.

The only thing Arizona is going to be selecting tonight in the first round is what to order for dinner.

With the 13th pick in the NHL draft, and the twelfth selection, the Calgary Flames are proud to select _____.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

If hockey had baseballs rules any rookie who had played as a 18 year old would have full trade veto by 28 if still on original team.

If you look at most of the NTC's it is for players who would be at or very close to MLB's 10 and 5 rule.

The reason it isn't a big deal in MLB is players don't play at 18. So usually to get your 10 years service you are in your early 30's.

Again - It is just different rules that the players and teams negotiate .

According to Capfriendly, there were 179 active NHL players with some form of NTC or NMC last year (surely higher now). That averages out to about 6 players per team.

In the NBA, last season, there were no players with true NTCs, but 19 players that had trade veto powers based on their tenure and/or contract status. It's a drastic difference when the different rules are put into practice.

[Rollin22x]

Biznasty: Do you know how much tax they pay here in California? It's really high.
Teddy Purcell: If I knew how much I was paying, I'd probably move.
I doubt he will ever look into it. Just one player but maybe taxes are not a big concern when it comes to location/lifestyle.

[TheIronMaiden]

All the more reason the NHL needs to close the NCAA loop hole.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Rollin22x

Biznasty: Do you know how much tax they pay here in California? It's really high.
Teddy Purcell: If I knew how much I was paying, I'd probably move.
I doubt he will ever look into it. Just one player but maybe taxes are not a big concern when it comes to location/lifestyle.

The players have agents who work these numbers out for them. Here’s what they’ll take home over the length of the contract with team A vs team B.