07-14-2021, 07:30 PM
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#41
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Man this organization is getting increasingly harder to support. This is why Treliving should have been let go. This is already an asset poor organization largely due to his mismanagement and he's looking at going back to the well one more time for a single year of a soon to be 38 year old defenseman. SMH.
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This reeks of Murray.
I don’t think Treliving would shed a single tear if he had an extra $6.75M of cap space tomorrow.
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07-14-2021, 07:31 PM
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#42
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Common sense has left the boardroom.
This kind of rumor is the exact opposite of what I had hoped this off season would entail.
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07-14-2021, 07:32 PM
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#43
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#1 Goaltender
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Oh man wow hahaha this team is special.
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07-14-2021, 07:32 PM
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#44
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by simonsays
Am I the only one who sees this as good news? That means that we aren't wasting a protection slot on Gio. Sure, you check your options. Can you trade another defenceman before the draft? Well we tried but the return was miserable on account of the exp draft. Make a deal with Seattle...well we tried but they wanted a first.
Sorry Mark, explored all the options and found them all lacking. Good luck on the coast.
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This is a good take. You don’t just kick your captain to the curb without at least making a show of trying to make some sort of a deal. And then, if the deal can’t be made, no one can complain.
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07-14-2021, 07:33 PM
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#45
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Originally Posted by Jay Random
And there we go. Two more posters who blame Treliving for something that hasn't even happened.
You know what? It's entirely possible that Treliving will trade every player on the roster for a bag of Mexican jumping beans. Let's cut to the chase and blame him for that, shall we? We have no team at all, just a sack full of legumes infested with insect larvae! What a bozo Treliving is! Fire him now, before he inevitably does every stupid thing we can imagine!
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People are just discussing the rumour of a "high price" to keep Giordano. Lots of hyperbole, sure, but it's just a discussion board.
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07-14-2021, 07:33 PM
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#46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Super-Rye
Gio is 38 but he is still the best defender on this team.Him leaving for absolutely nothing leaves a big hole on the left side of our defense that no single player is going to cover. Added to that is management is likely wanted to compete now an losing Gio doesn't help with that goal.
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07-14-2021, 07:34 PM
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#47
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Leave Gio exposed.
Best case Seattle takes Kylington or long shot take Lucic. Then we actually make a smart asset move and trade Gio at the deadline.
2nd best case they take Gio, we use the cap space to add in free agency or trade.
Bottom line is don't pay Seattle, let them decide and we're still ahead.
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07-14-2021, 07:34 PM
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#48
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Everyone rushing to send the team’s best defenseman out the door
The goal is to win hockey games next year, and Gio’s shoes won’t get filled by anyone already here.
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07-14-2021, 07:35 PM
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#49
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I mean, we'll see what happens.
I would not be in favor of giving up a draft pick to keep Gio, as much as I love the guy...a fifth would be ok, but I think Calgary needs all the lottery tickets it can accumulate...
Would it be worthwhile to give up a mid tier prospect? Maybe, but you'd have to think Seattle is going to squeeze as much as possible, even if they have no intention of picking Gio over Kylington for example.
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07-14-2021, 07:36 PM
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#50
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Is this the thread where we over-react to things that haven't happened yet and try to fire the GM for things he hasn't done?
This is that thread right?
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07-14-2021, 07:37 PM
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#51
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
People are just discussing the rumour of a "high price" to keep Giordano. Lots of hyperbole, sure, but it's just a discussion board.
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Then they are conflating two statements, one of which has nothing to do with the Flames, and is just a general statement about Seattle, not about Gio at all. The “high price” stuff is so generic and expected that it’s amazing people even cite it. Of course Seattle’s asking price for deals is high. The offers from other teams are probably low. That’s how negotiations start.
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07-14-2021, 07:37 PM
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#52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Is this the thread where we over-react to things that haven't happened yet and try to fire the GM for things he hasn't done?
This is that thread right?
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Yes, this is that thread, but apparently saying so means I'm ‘off my meds’ and need to ‘grow up’. So it might not be the best idea to get caught agreeing with me.
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07-14-2021, 07:38 PM
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#53
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigrangy
Everyone rushing to send the team’s best defenseman out the door
The goal is to win hockey games next year, and Gio’s shoes won’t get filled by anyone already here.
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M a n a g e m e n t
Losing 2 (or more?) players and a pick (or multiple?) to have 1 more year of Gio is rediculous
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07-14-2021, 07:39 PM
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#54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigrangy
Everyone rushing to send the team’s best defenseman out the door
The goal is to win hockey games next year, and Gio’s shoes won’t get filled by anyone already here.
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The goal should be to win the Stanley Cup.
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07-14-2021, 07:41 PM
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#55
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
What if it costs a 3rd to keep Gio, but they trade him for a first at the TDL? Bad asset management?
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There is a lot of risk that we end up with nothing (injury, keep him for playoff push).
There is also the opportunity cost of what could be done with that cap space.
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Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon
I don’t think they are actually trying to keep Gio. I think they are saying they are trying everything to pay respect to the captain in the media.
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Hopefully this...and driving up the price for other teams to play stupid games.
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07-14-2021, 07:42 PM
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#56
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
The goal should be to win the Stanley Cup.
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Then the owners should fold the team right here and now, because they have a 97% chance of failure each and every year. And the same applies to every other franchise in the league.
Professional sports is a business. The goal is to make money by entertaining fans. The playoffs are part of the show, but nobody is ever guaranteed a championship.
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07-14-2021, 07:42 PM
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#57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
The goal should be to win the Stanley Cup.
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Last i checked you need to win hockey games to do that
Guys that can eat 20 mins help quite a bit with that
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07-14-2021, 07:42 PM
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#58
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
The goal should be to win the Stanley Cup.
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The goal of the billionaire owners is to increase the franchise value while printing money and basking in the prestige of being The Hockey Team in a major Canadian city.
The Stanley Cup is gravy. Hence “get in and see what happens” defining every move they ever make.
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07-14-2021, 07:44 PM
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#59
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moneyhands23
This is not good news. I just can't how this works out for the Flames.
Better not be giving up picks or good young prospects
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I doubt that Seattle wants a coke and a bag of chips.
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07-14-2021, 07:44 PM
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#60
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Is this the thread where we over-react to things that haven't happened yet and try to fire the GM for things he hasn't done?
This is that thread right?
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Can you please find a single post calling for a firing for the GM in this thread that isn't an obvious joke? Your recent posts are getting a bit unhinged about this particular topic.
Thus far the criticism is that this would fit the pattern of the Flames not making wise decisions when it comes to long-term asset managment that has led to their current plight. That's a totally fair criticism.
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